Hype Survivor Hype Survivor XXVI: The New Challengers! Day 15 - Return to **** City!

[Matt]

Read the rules. You agreed when you signed up that the host could intervene at any time to take dead weight players out of the game.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Why did you wait this long to make this move then, Matt? Why didn't you intervene and do this sooner then? If you were going to do this, why did we even bother with having a challenge? What you did was unfair. You don't have to like what the players do, but intervening at this stage of the game is both conveniant and unfair.

You should have left the game up to us.

 

[POWdER-man]

Hmm...game left to us....


YAY I call winner!!!

 

[Matt]

I intervened because there was no fair alternative. Either I give CC immunity after having already read three votes which would've pissed some people off or I give deny her after missing the deadline by six minutes for something that was not only partially my fault but also when I'd given people similar grace periods in the past.

There were two valid sides so instead of punishing either side, I instead got rid of someone who hasn't played the game in weeks.

 

[Marx]

I sincerely hope that you guys are opposing the ruling because of the ruling, and not because Badger was an alliance member.

 

[The Squirrel]

If a player had to leave due to a "family emergency" in the real Survivor, they would not be left in the game. This should have been done long ago.

 

[The Squirrel]

I sincerely hope that you guys are opposing the ruling because of the ruling, and not because Badger was an alliance member.

It's because he is an alliance member, they were keeping him so they could get rid of other players easier.

 

[Movies205]

Read the rules. You agreed when you signed up that the host could intervene at any time to take dead weight players out of the game.

Matt its your game and as such players need to accept that host gets final say, but I disagree with this tact. If you're going remove a player it should be early on, before merge, if not and you should know this your seriously messing with the mechanics of the game as well as the strategy of the players themselves.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I intervened because there was no fair alternative. Either I give CC immunity after having already read three votes which would've pissed some people off or I give deny her after missing the deadline by six minutes for something that was not only partial my fault but also when I'd given people similar grace periods in the past.

There were two valid sides so instead of punishing either side, I instead got rid of someone who hasn't played the game in weeks.

I wouldn't have complained if you resent council pms. I would have been A-okay with that. However, I'm not remaining silent on this.

I sincerely hope that you guys are opposing the ruling because of the ruling, and not because Badger was an alliance member.

I'm complaining because of the ruling. Ties have nothing to do with my anger. This ignored the will of the voters, and took the game from us.

 

[Marx]

It's because he is an alliance member, they were keeping him so they could get rid of other players easier.

I suspect that as well.

I'm complaining because of the ruling. Ties have nothing to do with my anger. This ignored the will of the voters, and took the game from us.

But should two of your tribemates be punished for not being able to upload their game before the deadline? They got it in six minutes late. I would be pretty upset if I had complications with the tie breaker game.

 

[Matt]

Hey POWdER, you're reading...be so kind to weigh in?

 

[Spider-Fan]

I suspect that as well.



But should two of your tribemates be punished for not being able to upload their game before the deadline? They got it in six minutes late. I would be pretty upset if I had complications with the tie breaker game.

As I said before, I am not mad about that part. It's the part about just up and outing Badger without our votes being taken into account I'm mad. Had Matt resent council pms with his new decision, I would have been more than happy. In fact, I would have defended that decision. However, my vote was taken away period.

 

[KALEL114]

But they had 24 hours to figure it out. They even got an extension.

 

[Marx]

But they had 24 hours to figure it out. They even got an extension.

I believe they were late in getting a start on the tie breaker.

Judging from the comments IN THIS VERY THREAD, the game did not begin until 11:15 or so. The original deadline was 11:30 with the extension granted making the new deadline 12:00am. Considering that time, I'm shocked they were even able to finished the poker game!

(CC, Wats, isn't that correct?)

 

[Matt]

I want to listen to your views and I'll rule again. I can admit when I'm wrong. I'd like to hear what POWdER says first. That said, if I reverse my ruling, CC will win immunity as I will grant her the six minute grace period and she will be allowed to pick her Exile.

But yeah, I want POWdER's say first.

 

[The Squirrel]

I want to listen to your views and I'll rule again. I can admit when I'm wrong. I'd like to hear what POWdER says first. That said, if I reverse my ruling, CC will win immunity as I will grant her the six minute grace period and she will be allowed to pick her Exile.

But yeah, I want POWdER's say first.

You made the right ruling. I understand if Badger is dealing with personal issues, but dead weight players should not be kept in the game.

 

[Movies205]

I want to listen to your views and I'll rule again. I can admit when I'm wrong. I'd like to hear what POWdER says first. That said, if I reverse my ruling, CC will win immunity as I will grant her the six minute grace period and she will be allowed to pick her Exile.

But yeah, I want POWdER's say first.

What exactly is the issue? If its over whether CC's should be in because of the six minutes late? Ultimately, its a judgment call on the side of the host and while, I personally wouldn't allow it, I can see the reasons for allowing it, because ultimately this game is suppose to be fun and its not as if money is on the line, and who knows the host of technical difficulties that could of led to it being late.

As for the taking Badger out, you heard my piece on that already.

 

[Matt]

I've already decided I'm going to give CC a grace period if I overrule the decision on ousting Badger. I want to hear what POWdER has to say first.

 

[Movies205]

You made the right ruling. I understand if Badger is dealing with personal issues, but dead weight players should not be kept in the game.

How many survivors have you actually played? How many times have you been in the final stretch? Do you even understand how the game works? As hosts (I've hosted 2 survivor games), we'd love to see players be active it takes time to make challenges and we want them played, but let's cut the naivety and realize that a good survivor player doesn't need to win challenges most of the time, he or she has scrupulously crafted a well design plan that factors in all the players including deadweight, if you remove a single piece there entire plan collapses, and that simply is not fair. Especially when all the host is suppose to do is facilitate the players, its like the controversy in American Idol over the Judges being able to save someone, it takes it out of the players hand and puts it into an unseen force. Survivor is not about who tries the hardest, it simply about who survives for whatever reason.

 

[KALEL114]

I believe they were late in getting a start on the tie breaker.

Judging from the comments IN THIS VERY THREAD, the game did not begin until 11:15 or so. The original deadline was 11:30 with the extension granted making the new deadline 12:00am. Considering that time, I'm shocked they were even able to finished the poker game!

(CC, Wats, isn't that correct?)

So we in essence get penalized because they can't start the game earlier? Challenges aren't tailor made to meet our own schedules. It was announced that if they did not have it turned in on time, no one would be immune.Period.

 

[Matt]

Also, I'd like my co-host to put in her two cents.

 

[The Squirrel]

How many survivors have you actually played? How many times have you been in the final stretch? Do you even understand how the game works? As hosts (I've hosted 2 survivor games), we'd love to see players be active it takes time to make challenges and we want them played, but let's cut the naivety and realize that a good survivor player doesn't need to win challenges most of the time, he or she has scrupulously crafted a well design plan that factors in all the players including deadweight, if you remove a single piece there entire plan collapses, and that simply is not fair. Especially when all the host is suppose to do is facilitate the players, its like the controversy in American Idol over the Judges being able to save someone, it takes it out of the players hand and puts it into an unseen force. Survivor is not about who tries the hardest, it simply about who survives for whatever reason.

I don't care how many games you've hosted. This isn't those games. Keeping dead weight, inactive players is not fair to the active players who are getting voted off.

This **** wouldn't fly in a real game, and it shouldn't fly here.

 

[Marx]

So we in essence get penalized because they can't start the game earlier? Challenges aren't tailor made to meet our own schedules. It was announced that if they did not have it turned in on time, no one would be immune.Period.

It seems as though Matt has backtracked, so I really have nothing further to say. I just hope that you all were arguing the actually ruling, and not the fact the an expendable alliance member (Badger) was going to be eliminated.

 

[POWdER-man]

Hey POWdER, you're reading...be so kind to weigh in?

Heh, is this a way to draw me in to nag at me for complaining...

 

[Movies205]

I don't care how many games you've hosted. This isn't those games. Keeping dead weight, inactive players is not fair to the active players who are getting voted off.

This **** wouldn't fly in a real game, and it shouldn't fly here.

How is it not fair? Not participating is a strategy in and of itself, I'm sorry are favorite players can't win, but that's not how it works. Hype Survivor and real Survivor are two completely different things and are only loosely connected. Deadweight is part of the fun for players, unless everyone is deadweight, but one deadweight player is an X factor, and is to be expected. There's a lot of different things that make a good survivor experience and one is having a proper balance between different kinds of players. In fact, I think you have no idea what you're talking about and don't know why you're commenting, weren't you deadweight in my game, I didn't just eject you, I waited till someone voted you off