Fant4stic "I am DOOM! What MODS Dare Stand Against Me!

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[GoblinScrier]

First off, this is awesome to see this thread back...I had such fun interacting with everyone (despite the outcome of the 2 movies)...

With that said, hopefully the old adage holds true...third times a charm and we will get an incredible F4 movie.

Now with that out of the way, let us start with the ultimate villain in all of comicdom, Dr. Victor Von Doom aka Dr. Doom.

We know that he was in the other 2 movies but c'mon...that was embarrassing as it could be...with that said, I think whether Doom appears in movie 1 or 2, it matters not...I think its safe to say the following criteria MUST be done in order to have a competent, memorable Doom on the big screen that could even scare Thanos

*Born a gypsy
*Homeland is Latveria/Ruler of Latveria/Castle
*Mix or science and sorcery
*Devotion to mother
*Absolute hatred of Richards
*Comic book classic look (the whole thing)
*Booming voice, with accent or at least hint of accent
*Robotic army
*Bonus if they give him faithful Boris as his assistant
*Truly believes his vision for the world is best
*Show his ambitious nature of wanting to conquer Earth/universe

As for who plays him, if we get brief glimpses of him back in college as Victor, then come up with an actor who will pull that off.

Once in the armor, DON'T remove it UNLESS, we are to see his face covered in shadows with hints of how deeply scarred he is...

I think the voice/presence is KEY to Doom's success...Bill Nighy (Viktor from Underworld, Davy Jones from Pirates 2/3) would be IDEAL...perhaps someone else??? Suggestions???

 

[TeeKay]

Toby Kebbell Reveals Doctor Doom’s Radically New Origin in THE FANTASTIC FOUR Movie
http://collider.com/doctor-doom-new-origin-fantastic-four-movie/

They turned Marvels greatest villain into a ****ing internet blogger, programmer or whatever? Really? I want to see how people defend this heresy.

 

[First Avenger]

They turned Marvels greatest villain into a ****ing internet blogger, programmer or whatever? Really? I want to see how people defend this heresy.

'Josh Trank is a great director!'
'Fox makes the best CBMs!'
'But you loved the Mandarin twist!'
'Every CBM deviates from the source material!'

Pick one.

 

[OriginalMiles]

How about "I'm sure he's just kidding."?

 

[OriginalMiles]

https://***********/VictorDomashev

You guys seen this?

What if it's Fox's attempt at Viral Marketing?

 

[Sardaukar]

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[HAMMER]

They turned Marvels greatest villain into a ****ing internet blogger, programmer or whatever? Really? I want to see how people defend this heresy.

It is really interesting to see people still be optimistic for this film, but not surprising. The cold keeps people inside this time of year, Foxholm syndrome sets in quicker.

 

[First Avenger]

Lol @foxholm syndrome XD.

 

[DarthDaveBanner]

I wonder if blogger Doom will be a way of Trank hitting back at "whiny internet fanboys" trashing his bold new vision?

 

[Brian Braddock]

That's bold new vision in inverted commas, presumably?

 

[DarthDaveBanner]

Inverted commas aren't gritty or grounded enough.

 

[Dark Raven]

First off, this is awesome to see this thread back...I had such fun interacting with everyone (despite the outcome of the 2 movies)...

With that said, hopefully the old adage holds true...third times a charm and we will get an incredible F4 movie.

Now with that out of the way, let us start with the ultimate villain in all of comicdom, Dr. Victor Von Doom aka Dr. Doom.

We know that he was in the other 2 movies but c'mon...that was embarrassing as it could be...with that said, I think whether Doom appears in movie 1 or 2, it matters not...I think its safe to say the following criteria MUST be done in order to have a competent, memorable Doom on the big screen that could even scare Thanos

*Born a gypsy
*Homeland is Latveria/Ruler of Latveria/Castle
*Mix or science and sorcery
*Devotion to mother
*Absolute hatred of Richards
*Comic book classic look (the whole thing)
*Booming voice, with accent or at least hint of accent
*Robotic army
*Bonus if they give him faithful Boris as his assistant
*Truly believes his vision for the world is best
*Show his ambitious nature of wanting to conquer Earth/universe

As for who plays him, if we get brief glimpses of him back in college as Victor, then come up with an actor who will pull that off.

Once in the armor, DON'T remove it UNLESS, we are to see his face covered in shadows with hints of how deeply scarred he is...

I think the voice/presence is KEY to Doom's success...Bill Nighy (Viktor from Underworld, Davy Jones from Pirates 2/3) would be IDEAL...perhaps someone else??? Suggestions???

This first post, which is automatically quoted everytime Thread Manager creates a new thread again, is hilarious now at the start of this thread as requirements for what Dr Doom should be like in light of what we've actually gotten.

It's like Fox read this and said, "Yeah... no. How about Doom as an internet blogger instead?"

I don't know even know if I should tell my dad this news. He is a big fan of Doom and didn't like how he was represented the last two times.

He's 55 years old...this news could give him a heart attack....I'll just tell him it was cancelled instead.

Maybe you should tell him. His opinion of the previous Doom might suddenly rise dramatically and he'll have two extra films to watch.

 

[Nathan]

What the hell is happening? You'd think Marvel's success would have taught them that you can be faithful to the source material, and the audience will love it. What the hell is this nonsense about blogger Doom?

 

[The Infernal]

It sounds like they just built the character up around a hackneyed way to use the name 'Doom' in the movie.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I've been thinking about Dr. Doom's decline in recent years, and it's a bit of a shame, really. I remember when I first got into reading comics in the mid 90s, Dr. Doom was seen as THE supervillain, Marvel's headline A-list baddie. Whenever Wizard or whoever would run a poll on the best comic book villains, Doom was almost certain to be number 1, with even The Joker often relegated to number 2. While he was never MY personal favourite villain, I did respect that he was a legit heavy-hitter deserving of that revered status.

But in recent years, between his poor depiction in the movies, the Fantastic Four franchise being in decline and being seen as less integral to the comics universe (even when the likes of Jonathan Hickman were doing great work on the series), and Marvel wanting to focus more heavily on the properties they have the movie rights to, it seems a Doom has fallen off his perch. Other villains like Loki or Thanos have been more heavily promoted in that headline villain role, and it seems like ages since we've had a proper Doom-focused storyline presenting him as a central antagonist rather than as a bit part player. And this portrayal in the upcoming movie seems like it could serve to further tarnish his standing.

 

[Jaspertian1105]

What the hell is happening? You'd think Marvel's success would have taught them that you can be faithful to the source material, and the audience will love it. What the hell is this nonsense about blogger Doom?

Its Fox so they don't give a ****, Marvel wants those characters back so if they see that this movie will blow they will do nothing to promote and hope that people will not see it (I bet there will be campaigns to sabotage it so it bombs hard). Its a risky move for marvel but im sure they want doom , galactus, and the surfer specially, the ff are a good bonus

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

It sounds like they just built the character up around a hackneyed way to use the name 'Doom' in the movie.

I was trying to find some possible way to see this as not as absolutely awful as it sounds, and I thought 'maybe he's still close to being Doom and they're just using this as a way to give him the name . . .'

. . . But that's impossible because if he were close to Doom, he wouldn't be 'chatting' in any way that would require a name. Just that idea - Doom sitting down at a computer and interacting with people who are so far beneath him - means that we have no hope of getting a Doom that is anything close to what Doom should be.

 

[StarLord]

I'd rather see this.

 

[The Infernal]

I have to wonder, even if there is anything worthwhile to this movie, if the negative buzz surrounding this movie is enough to sink it anyway.

 

[KDM1986]

I can't believe you guys are surprised. The writings been on the wall for awhile now that this was going to be a very loose adaptation of The Fantastic Four. At this point it's just easier not to look at this as a FF movie and just look at it as chronicle 2.

 

[Suzanne78]

So with my expectations for this below sea level, somewhere in the underground lair of Mole Man himself, I wonder if I'll end up liking the movie anyway? Not as a FF movie, but as an original property?

 

[Suzanne78]

I'm sort of floored by the fact that MS has made a quirky cosmic space opera set entirely in space, with a talking raccoon and tree and they're going all in with a canonically accurate Infinity War storyline and yet... Doom is too hard to translate properly? Never mind that FF could be Fox's response to GOTG.

Mind. Boggling.

 

[C. Lee]

I'm sort of floored by the fact that MS has made a quirky cosmic space opera set entirely in space, with a talking raccoon and tree and they're going all in with a canonically accurate Infinity War storyline and yet... Doom is too hard to translate properly? Never mind that FF could be Fox's response to GOTG.

Mind. Boggling.

That's one of the things that baffles me to. There are a lot of comic book characters with 'fantastical" backstories that people could have said years ago were unfilmable or not grounded enough for the general public to accept them.....but those days are gone. You can film the comics as they were originally presented and they will be accepted. What we have here isn't someone thinking the public won't accept a filmed live action comic book...we have someone full of themself and wanting their "vision" filmed so that they can prove they are above all the others. People who start thinking of themselves over the source material eventually screw themselves. Look up HEAVEN'S GATE.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I'm sort of floored by the fact that MS has made a quirky cosmic space opera set entirely in space, with a talking raccoon and tree and they're going all in with a canonically accurate Infinity War storyline and yet... Doom is too hard to translate properly? Never mind that FF could be Fox's response to GOTG.

Mind. Boggling.

Yeah, Fox just feel really behind the zeitgeist here. Guardians of the Galaxy was fun, old-school space opera with larger-than-life characters and high-concept zany weirdness, and was one of the year's biggest blockbuster success stories. If Fox had their finger on the pulse they'd be tapping into that with Fantastic Four. Instead, they're still in the mire of thinking Nolan-style grittiness is the key to capturing audience imagination, as if you can approach the Fantastic Four the way you would Batman.