I fear that Strange will fail and be the least successful MCU film

the lowest grossing mcu film was tih, under $300 million. and if dr. strange made even that, I'd call it a success.
 
I think the movie will do well. They cast a highly capable actor with an established fanbase. We have no idea as yet whom else will be in the movie, but Marvel has shown that even "solo" movies have other Marvel characters in them.

Feige has a long established interest in Doctor Strange, and I really doubt he is going to let this be the Marvel movie end a winning streak.
 
I'm more worried about Ant-man than this.


And I do wonder how the general audience (especially kids) will react to Civil War.
 
Even if some of the films don't do very well, not the end of the world.

Zak Penn thought Thor was going to flop.

The Incredible Hulk really didn't do that well and it wasn't the end of the world.
 
Every new Marvel so far has had doomsayers.

I'm not saying Marvel films can't flop but they are on such a roll right now I would be surprised if any of their next few movies outright bombed.
That has quite a few comic book actors in that film.
Yep, it sure does.
I think it will be successful in the United States, but it will be a tough sell internationally.

Black Panther will do fine in Europe and South America. I don't know about Asia.
 
Dr. Strange will venture into a new aspect of the MCU just like GOTG did quite successfully. There is no reason to think it will fail. It gives the audience something new and fresh.
 
I think the MCU is growing up, Winter Soldier was it hitting puberty. Just like the Harry Potter franchise. As Thanos draws nearer you'll see dark times coming across all the films. Age of Ultron looks grim as hell. Civil War Tony will have lost his smile and pretty much becomes a bad guy, Thor Ragnarok probably won't have Jane Foster or Darci in it and will be about the end of asgard, Fiege said it would be one of the most important films of Phase 3. So I think it's time for some dark stories and leave the winks and nudges of the MCU back in the past.

But I could be wrong and Age of Ultron is even "funnier" than The Avengers and the trailer fooled us all.


That's actually a very good point. How did I miss that.

But even The Winter Soldier had a bunch of funny moments. Age Of Ultron looks like to have some of that too. I just can't see that with Strange. Maybe if they'll borrow some elements of Sherlock humor ? Where his humor comes from his own intelligence and supremeness ? I wonder how they'll handle the character. I hope they don't make him too boring.
 
Agreed. In fact, I'd argue that Dr. Strange is probably an easier sell than GOTG and we all know how that turned out.


How is it an easier sell ?
GOTG was about space, adventure, action, comedy.
The ultimate combo. Sure the only risk was selling a character named raccoon and groot but with the technology we have I always had faith in GOTG.

People complain that Marvel films are too lighthearted but those elements make the film that much more enjoyable. Take TWS for example. Much darker, great political thriller, but it had so many comedic elements which elevated the film imo. Will Strange have some of those smart comedic elements ? I hope so. I'm afraid it'll become too boring if the character has no humor to it. Will it be a dark film ? Will it have lighter moments ? Will Strange be an arrogant-turned-humble character without any sense of humor ? I'm not saying he should aim to be funny but his funny should come from not trying to be funny but from his brilliance and sumpremeness if that makes sense. Kind of like Sherlock. I don't think we've seen that type of humor within MCU before aand it might help add some versatility to the tone of this film.
 
That's actually a very good point. How did I miss that.

But even The Winter Soldier had a bunch of funny moments. Age Of Ultron looks like to have some of that too. I just can't see that with Strange. Maybe if they'll borrow some elements of Sherlock humor ? Where his humor comes from his own intelligence and supremeness ? I wonder how they'll handle the character. I hope they don't make him too boring.

I think it'll be exactly like with Sherlock, or something like Doctor Who for that matter. He'll think himself above others and mock them for their lack of intelligence in a funny way, but on the other hand he won't understand some things other people would only find natural, he'll act silly without being aware of it himself and be completely unphased by some things that seem completely crazy.

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Read Doctor Strange: The Oath. Plenty of humour and witty banter in that book which could easily be replicated in a movie.
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Strange failing? Nope...this is the same team that made Iron Man an A list Superhero. This is the same team that not only made Thor accessible, but also made him a bit of a sex symbol. This is the team that took Guardians of the Galaxy and made them the one of the biggest movies in 2014.

It will not be hard to make Dr. Strange accessible for a wide audience. Especially with Benedict playing him.
 
Strange will be one of Marvel's most beloved heroes to the audiences when people see what he can do and what his world is about. Of this, I'm sure of.
 
I am not too concerned with Dr. Strange being humorous. It likely will be, but I don't see humor as an integral component of the character. I look forward to something more serious, gicen that Strange is a learned man of medicine and magic that battles the supernatural. This should be Marvel's Hellblazer.
 
If Cap can do well overseas (given the notion that many countries hate America) why can't BP?

I think it has been said/Ive read things that say international audiences don't flock to movies with largely black cast. And if BP has a largely black cast, which I'd be surprised if it didnt, then there is some fear of that that will affect the BO.

My response to the people overseas dont watch movies with predominatly black casts is that, to be honest, a lot of them suck. And this is me as a black man saying that. There are a bunch of good ones in the 90s (Love and Basketball, The Best Man, etc.) but other than The Best Man Holiday, Think Like a Man and About Last Night there arent many good movies with African American casts unless there historical or about Black plight. So I think that plays more into it than race or at least I can see that happening.

Django didn't do bad at all, but I think whether or not it had a predominately black cast is kinda debatable to me at least. 12 Years a Slave didnt do too shabby overseas either

The MArvel brand will for sure help any movie, BP, Strange, etc. I think the bigger problem is how cool the superhero seems to people. I dont think many people think Ant-Man is cool and the movie really needs to show how badass his powers are
 
this thread is very random
I agree Ant-man is the much bigger risk, I thought this was agreed upon, cmon people..


and as for the black cast thing, I think BP will probably have a similar make-up racially to Django, about even, with mostly the villainous types being white
 
I have 0 worries about Strange, Ant-Man and the rest because if Iron Man, Thor, Captain America and GOTG are of any indication, it'll do fine. TIH is/was practically a learning curve compared to what I've listed
 
I have 0 worries about Strange, Ant-Man and the rest because if Iron Man, Thor, Captain America and GOTG are of any indication, it'll do fine. TIH is/was practically a learning curve compared to what I've listed

Me neither. It's like how many times does Marvel Studios have to prove themselves....

In any case all of the MCU films are day one tickets for me and the kids. Any worries this far in advance are irrelevant.
 
If Cap can do well overseas (given the notion that many countries hate America) why can't BP?

Maybe it will. But historically movies with black casts have not done well in certain markets, particularly in Europe and East Asia.
 
If Cap can do well overseas (given the notion that many countries hate America) why can't BP?
You do realise the Cold War has ended right? :o

Captain America isn't even about America really. I expected more Team Americaisms, but its really just about the ideals of freedom
 
I'm not worried about any MCU film.

They have shown they could sell ice to an eskimo.

I expect just about every movie to cross 500 million worldwide from this point on.
 
On the matter of "foreign market and movies with black cast". . . I have to wonder: has anybody checked to see whether this alleged phenomenon applies to majority-black cast movies in general, or specifically to movies about African-Americans? Which is to say, is it possible the problem is not "international audiences don't want to watch movies with black people", but instead "international audiences doesn't particularly care about African-American culture and history"?
 
Black Panther is getting set up in AOU & Civil War before his solo. Marvel has done everything they can for him. If for whatever reason his film fails,it won't be for lack of trying.

In the case of Strange, I'm guessing he's introduced here before being fraternized with the others,which is admittedly riskier.
 

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