Batman Begins I hate batman begin costume

[Mutagen]

I think because Batman's fighting the cops, he should have a new vehicle, Nolan style;

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I also think he should get a new look to compliment his bad ass new vehicles;

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[Majik1387]

Those aren't even funny...

 

[Daredevil_2003]

I think because Batman's fighting the cops, he should have a new vehicle, Nolan style;

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I also think he should get a new look to compliment his bad ass new vehicles;

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[MacLeod]

I understand what you are saying. For awhile now it seems your main concern is the direction Nolan took with the whole idea to begin with. If you don't like his take on Batman then it makes complete sense that the suit - one output of that vision - wouldn't appeal to you.

Back before BB was released, I was hoping they would make a Batman film in the same way TAS was made. That is, Batman is a fast moving ninja who doesn't need body armour. When the first photos came out and showed the body armour and massive tank Batmobile, I immediately thought "here we go again".

However, when watching the film for the first time, I was blown away by how good it looked on screen and how well the designs fitted with his vision. Now I have done a complete 180 on the matter. I now find Nolan's Batman my favourite interpretation. I know comic purists will scoff at that and roll their eyes. I've read plenty of the comics, graphic novels, and watched all of TAS but I like the vision of Batman wearing high-tech armour now.



Well, the suit has to have the fundamentals but it also has to look real. The suit above is obviously not supposed to hold up to scrutiny. The TDK suit has the fundamentals and it looks good. Now, you don't particularly like it. We have over 50 pages of this thread that has clearly outlined this so I don't see any point in trying to change your view. To me, both the BB and TDK suits not only have the fundamental "look" of Batman but they also perfectly fit the tone and story of the films as well, and they look like they could exist in the real world.

But, hey, I don't really know what else to say. At the end of the day, you either like it or not. I don't think they are perfect but I am happy with the costumes and I don't really care if the suits diverge from the comics if that means they make more sense in the context of the film they are trying to make.

I'll have to respectfully disagree however I do like how you stated your position. That was very well done and for that I can easily accept your rational for your opinion and respect it.

 

[the_scream]

I'll have to respectfully disagree however I do like how you stated your position. That was very well done and for that I can easily accept your rational for your opinion and respect it.

Thanks.

 

[roach]

You dont need powers to be a superhero. Captain America is considered a superhero and he doesnt have superpowers. Is Green Arrow not a superhero? Again all I see are people apologizing because Batman started in a comic book. Sure I dont want Bale to be running around in spandex but having a hi tech suit of armor isnt what I envision as Batman

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Well how do you envision Batman?

Batman's superpowers are his wealth, intelligence and technology. That's how it's always been. Why wouldn't he have a high tech battle suit of some kind?

 

[roach]

Well how do you envision Batman?

Batman's superpowers are his wealth, intelligence and technology. That's how it's always been. Why wouldn't he have a high tech battle suit of some kind?

Because then he wouldnt be Batman he would be Ironman

I envision Batman in the getup that he has for the Arkham Asylum game. He should have a degree of protection but his suit should be light enough for him to perform the acrobatics he is known for. Also I would de emphasize the flying and get back to his zipline

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Then why Superman outfit is not ridiculous? isn't he wearing a red short under his blue pants?

Supermans outfit is ridiculous. It's one of the worst superhero outfits ever IMO. Especially in Superman Returns, it looked frickin ****e.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Because then he wouldnt be Batman he would be Ironman

Not atall. He can't fly like Iron Man, he hasn't got increased strength like Iron Man, he hasn't got energy beams like Iron Man.

He has a high tech battle suit, why wouldn't he? He is a multi billionaire whos company makes stuff for the army. Isn't it sensible that he would utilize some of that stuff?

You don't seem to know what Batman is about. Because he hasn't got actual superpowers he uses his wealth and technology to even the playing field. He always has. Even in the comics he has armour under neath his costume and all different gadgets. It's just in this particular film universe he has a nomex battle suit. So what?

 

[roach]

Not atall. He can't fly like Iron Man, he hasn't got increased strength like Iron Man, he hasn't got energy beams like Iron Man.

Really he "flies" all the time in the movies...and he has a Gauntlet that gives him superstrength...Im sure energy beams will be in the next one

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Because then he wouldnt be Batman he would be Ironman

I envision Batman in the getup that he has for the Arkham Asylum game. He should have a degree of protection but his suit should be light enough for him to perform the acrobatics he is known for. Also I would de emphasize the flying and get back to his zipline

Yea I admit the AA costume looks pretty sweet.

But you guys need to realize that when films are made of any comic book or anything that had source material in another medium, changes are always going to happen. What's wrong with that? You guys need to open your minds a bit, sometimes change is better, and in this case, for this PARTICULAR vision of Batman the change is better. Seriously, if in Batman Begins he started running around in something exactly like the costume from the comics you all would be like "WTF!?!?". Guaranteed. It just wouldn't look right with the world Nolan has created.

 

[roach]

You don't seem to know what Batman is about. Because he hasn't got actual superpowers he uses his wealth and technology to even the playing field. He always has. Even in the comics he has armour under neath his costume and all different gadgets. It's just in this particular film universe he has a nomex battle suit. So what?

I do know what Batman is about. Batman is about someone who has witness a great tragedy and decided that he will personally make sure it doesnt happen again. He travelled the world to hone his body and mind into tools for his great war on crime. Sure he used his wealth to create all his gadgets but they were all secondary to what he is as a man. Batman wasnt known for his car or his suit but it was his mind as the Worlds greatest detective and as being one of the worlds best martial artists

 

[roach]

Yea I admit the AA costume looks pretty sweet.

But you guys need to realize that when films are made of any comic book or anything that had source material in another medium, changes are always going to happen. What's wrong with that? You guys need to open your minds a bit, sometimes change is better, and in this case, for this PARTICULAR vision of Batman the change is better. Seriously, if in Batman Begins he started running around in something exactly like the costume from the comics you all would be like "WTF!?!?". Guaranteed. It just wouldn't look right with the world Nolan has created.

Im not saying he should be running in something that is a direct copy of the comics and I know that movies change things all the time. i just dont think this was a needed change or that it should have steered so far from the source material.
I think I would have enjoyed BB and TDK more if the suit was faithful

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Fair enough. I would of enjoyed it less. It just wouldn't be as believable to me. The tone of these films is gritty and realistic. I feel a bullet proof battle suit is more, errr, suited to this universe!

But as I've said before, after this trilogy is done (which it will most likely be) I want to see some one come in and make a more stylized series of Batman films, maybe in the same sorta style as Sin City? Like the comic has been ripped right off the page and put on the big screen. Then I will be all for a more traditional Bat-suit. It would actually fit into a film like that. In Nolans more reality based films? Not so much.

 

[Travesty]

I think because Batman's fighting the cops, he should have a new vehicle, Nolan style;

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I also think he should get a new look to compliment his bad ass new vehicles;

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[Daredevil_2003]

You dont need powers to be a superhero. Captain America is considered a superhero and he doesnt have superpowers. Is Green Arrow not a superhero? Again all I see are people apologizing because Batman started in a comic book. Sure I dont want Bale to be running around in spandex but having a hi tech suit of armor isnt what I envision as Batman

Wrong. Captain America has superpowers. Way to fail at the definition of fail: being a fanboy.

Green Arrow is not a superhero, nor is Batman. The most vague definition of the term can blanket them, but more specifically, superheroes have superpowers.

And Batman's suit is not Iron Man. This is just ridiculous. Most of the things you're bringing up are grasping at straws. The character has had all sorts of ridiculous gadgets in the comics and his cape is even similar to the movies, they've just taken it to a further degree. Far from in a bad way, either.

BB and TDK haven't strayed from the source material anymore than Spider-Man or any of the other adaptations. In fact, TDK feels more like Batman than any comic that's been published in years. That's pathetic, by the way.

I still cannot fathom why people think this is the biggest issue to worry about? Is this what happens when we get a truly great film? We're so spoiled we start *****ing up a storm about things sucking just because they're not exactly like the funnies? Noticed I didn't use the word "faithful' in there, that because these films are faithful to the character. Extremely faithful.

But then, who am I kidding? Fanboys will whine regardless of what they get just because it's not exactly like the source or what they personally wanted (thank god in that cause some of these ideas are beyond bad)

The material of the costume or whether it's black and grey or all black is not the catalyst for whether or not a work is faithful, or good.

And one more time for those who don't read good, the comic costume is an armored suit with just as many, if not more, hi-tech features than are implied in the film. It is armored, the film crew took a more literal aesthetic to this, doesn't mean they're wrong. And if he was just wearing some long john's in the comics, that still doesn't make them wrong. As Ace and other's have said at least a dozen times, it fits this interpretation like a glove. Batman more than any other character has so many different versions who's to say what's 'right' in these smaller matters that really just boil down to looks.

These arguments are ridiculous. I'm not the biggest fan of the look, either, but it's because I think it's a little ugly. Not some fanboy fanatiscism that only accepts one thing and everything else sucks if it doesn't conform to that vision in every way. Give it a rest. These ideas do not fit with this series, the precedent has been set, and they're not gonna change it. Especially not for the viscious purists in here. They've already shown that several times.

 

[roach]

Wrong. Captain America has superpowers. Way to fail at the definition of fail: being a fanboy.

What superpowers does Captain America have??? Yes I am a fanboy. When did that become a bad thing or a insult. I assume you are a fanbooy too since you are on a website dedicated to superhero movies. Stop hating yourself and deal with it.

Green Arrow is not a superhero, nor is Batman. The most vague definition of the term can blanket them, but more specifically, superheroes have superpowers.
So by your definition of a Superhero then Iron Man isnt a superhero. He doesnt have superpowers just gadgets. By that same definition Green Lantern, Quasar and Black Panther arent superheroes either then

And Batman's suit is not Iron Man. This is just ridiculous. Most of the things you're bringing up are grasping at straws. The character has had all sorts of ridiculous gadgets in the comics and his cape is even similar to the movies, they've just taken it to a further degree. Far from in a bad way, either.

And I didnt say he was...way to read. The poster asked me why Batman wouldnt have a hi tech suit of armor and I said because then he wouldnt be Batman he would. The focus of Batman shouldnt be the suit it should be the man. It should be about how Bruce Wayne took his martial arts training, criminology training AND GADGETS to become Batman.

BB and TDK haven't strayed from the source material anymore than Spider-Man or any of the other adaptations. In fact, TDK feels more like Batman than any comic that's been published in years. That's pathetic, by the way.
BB and TDK has strayed from the source material more than any other comic movie.How ever my post was about the suit straying from the comic.

I still cannot fathom why people think this is the biggest issue to worry about? Is this what happens when we get a truly great film? We're so spoiled we start *****ing up a storm about things sucking just because they're not exactly like the funnies? Noticed I didn't use the word "faithful' in there, that because these films are faithful to the character. Extremely faithful.

Does everyone have to agree with you? What if someone doesnt like this direction? We all dont have to like the same things. I know people who never liked Star Wars or people who enjoy Brittney Spears.

But then, who am I kidding? Fanboys will whine regardless of what they get just because it's not exactly like the source or what they personally wanted (thank god in that cause some of these ideas are beyond bad)

Again with the self hate. You are a fanboy on a fanboy website. Come out the closet in your Batman underoos and join the rest of us

The material of the costume or whether it's black and grey or all black is not the catalyst for whether or not a work is faithful, or good.

I never said it did. However the material of the costume is a catalyst on whether THE COSTUME is faithful or good

And one more time for those who don't read good, the comic costume is an armored suit with just as many, if not more, hi-tech features than are implied in the film. It is armored, the film crew took a more literal aesthetic to this, doesn't mean they're wrong. And if he was just wearing some long john's in the comics, that still doesn't make them wrong. As Ace and other's have said at least a dozen times, it fits this interpretation like a glove. Batman more than any other character has so many different versions who's to say what's 'right' in these smaller matters that really just boil down to looks.

A few Years ago Bane broke Batman's back and Azrael took over as Batman. He came to the same assumption and armored up the Batsuit...how long did that last?

These arguments are ridiculous. I'm not the biggest fan of the look, either, but it's because I think it's a little ugly. Not some fanboy fanatiscism that only accepts one thing and everything else sucks if it doesn't conform to that vision in every way. Give it a rest. These ideas do not fit with this series, the precedent has been set, and they're not gonna change it. Especially not for the viscious purists in here. They've already shown that several times.

Im sorry what ideas have they shown that dont fit the series? Did they show Batman in a comic faithful costume and then because it offered little protection go with the armored suit???? Nope. Everyone is saying the ideas dont fit the series but no one has tried them.
and I dont think I am viscious

 

[ANTOINE X]

Supermans outfit is ridiculous. It's one of the worst superhero outfits ever IMO. Especially in Superman Returns, it looked frickin ****e.

LOL! then what are U suggesting? Some hockey gear like TDK again?

 

[Mutagen]

shut up

Dude, we come here for criticism, not insults.

 

[Daredevil_2003]

What superpowers does Captain America have??? Yes I am a fanboy. When did that become a bad thing or a insult. I assume you are a fanbooy too since you are on a website dedicated to superhero movies. Stop hating yourself and deal with it.

The typical stuff, super-strength, speed, agility, endurance...it's far from Superman levels and varies over the years but he's typically at least much stronger and faster than your average Joe.

And being a fanboy is a bad thing. A fan is one thing, even a huge one. I'm definitely obsessed with Batman. Nothing wrong with that. A fanboy is more like a fanatic with a one-track mind. The folks who only see things one way and rant and rave about relatively small issues for 50-something pages. Regardless of the quality of the whole package, they'll lock in on these superficial things and complain to high hell, often with suspect logic.

So by your definition of a Superhero then Iron Man isnt a superhero. He doesnt have superpowers just gadgets. By that same definition Green Lantern, Quasar and Black Panther arent superheroes either then

I'm not gonna argue this one. Fine, Batman is a 'superhero'. Some people still don't get that he's just a normal human with no battle suit (and no, this armor is not even close to IM, before I see that ridiculous comparison made, again), power rings, etc etc. Or that lumping him in with these God-like beings doesn't make any sense. But, you win the semantics battle. Have a cookie.

And I didnt say he was...way to read. The poster asked me why Batman wouldnt have a hi tech suit of armor and I said because then he wouldnt be Batman he would. The focus of Batman shouldnt be the suit it should be the man. It should be about how Bruce Wayne took his martial arts training, criminology training AND GADGETS to become Batman.

Yeah, way to read indeed. I've been reading the thread, not just the single post I quoted. Ace said something about him not being IM, you came back with some smart ass comment about flying, superstrength and energy beams...it was implied, it might have been a joke, but you still said it. ANd you're not the first in this thread to do it.

Moving on...to address this hatred of the armor, once more. You don't like the aesthetic? Fine, I'm not the hugest fan of it, either. But all this BS about it not being Batman is just that. His suit has had ballistic protection since Batman #1, 69 years ago. Now, it's more hi-tech than the one in the movie. Give it up, guys. It's a fact.

It's not the dislike of the look that bugs me, it's all the half-witted 'faithfulness' justification for the argument. It is faithful, you guys just think it's ugly. Fair enough.

And these films are about how Bruce Wayne has taken his training, toys, and intense drive to become Batman. More than anything else. He's not a badass just because of the suit, both in film and the source. They illustrate that more than enough. But he does wear the protection, same as the comics, because all the training and Batarangs in the world doesn't change the fact that he's just a flesh and blood man.

BB and TDK has strayed from the source material more than any other comic movie.How ever my post was about the suit straying from the comic.

How so?

You guys have been whining about the suit being armor plates over a suit rather than under.

What else is so far out about it? Ra's isn't immortal? Joker isn't 'permawhite'?

Character's have been changed in all of the adaptations, Spider-Man has made several character's almost unrecognizable to their original version. And I'm not just talking looks, I mean the important stuff. At least Nolan's films are these characters at heart. You can't say the same about the villains of Spidey, or even the web-slinger himself to an extent.

Does everyone have to agree with you? What if someone doesnt like this direction? We all dont have to like the same things. I know people who never liked Star Wars or people who enjoy Brittney Spears.

No, they don't. I've never said it's wrong to dislike the more realistc direction. I dislike how petty most of the complaints and their justification are.

Again with the self hate. You are a fanboy on a fanboy website. Come out the closet in your Batman underoos and join the rest of us

Wrong again, I'm not petty and I haven't been complaining for 50 pages because a costume is 'rubber' and all one color.

I'll say it again for the 100th time, would I have done an adaptation the exact way Nolan has? No, particularly not in the costume department. But does that mean I'm gonna ***** to high hell just because it's not exactly like the books or conforming to my 'vision'? Hell no. These are great films, and I am so happy to see these characters truly done justice. I'll take this version of Batman and his world over whiney Spidey and his rogues gallery of largely in-name-only baddies and disco dancing...

I never said it did. However the material of the costume is a catalyst on whether THE COSTUME is faithful or good

Well that's good. You think the material makes it unfaithful. I think it's a form fitting body-suit with a cape, mask, pointy ears, and a utility belt full of those wonderful toys. Seems pretty faithful, even if it doesn't look exactly how I would like it.

A few Years ago Bane broke Batman's back and Azrael took over as Batman. He came to the same assumption and armored up the Batsuit...how long did that last?

Comparing the suit in TDK to AzBat's is completely irrelevant. That suit actually justified Iron Man comparisons. That suit and the character also had a purpose in the storyline. He wasn't the Batman we know, literally, and that was the point.

The suit that Bruce Wayne wears in terms of function is not much different than TDK, it's just the fashion part that differs.

Im sorry what ideas have they shown that dont fit the series? Did they show Batman in a comic faithful costume and then because it offered little protection go with the armored suit???? Nope. Everyone is saying the ideas dont fit the series but no one has tried them.
and I dont think I am viscious

It doesn't fit in this world. It just does not. I've already said something much closer to it could be done, but not in this series. It does not mesh with the rest of the style Nolan is shooting for. If you don't believe that, whatever...

I've said several times I don't like the suit. It might be faithful to the overall concept but it's ugly. Especially the legs. Good lord. But regardless of that it does fit with this world and it's aesthetic and the rest of the film is golden. I'm not gonna spend forever complaining about such a small issue. Batman and Robin could have had the exact costume from the comics, wouldn't have made it a better film. Same as having this suit doesn't make TDK less of a film. Someday, when Nolan is gone and we're moving on to a whole new take I will be the first to suggest a more faithful look.

And I don't mean viscious in the way of being locked in a small room with a grizzly bear, and I wasn't just referring to you.

There's nothing else I have to say, and I'm not going to repeat myself. So, with that said, adios.

 

[roach]

The typical stuff, super-strength, speed, agility, endurance...it's far from Superman levels and varies over the years but he's typically at least much stronger and faster than your average Joe.

Nope all of Steve Rogers attributes have been elevated to peak human levels. He is as strong and as fast as a normal human can be without being superhuman

And being a fanboy is a bad thing. A fan is one thing, even a huge one. I'm definitely obsessed with Batman. Nothing wrong with that. A fanboy is more like a fanatic with a one-track mind. The folks who only see things one way and rant and rave about relatively small issues for 50-something pages. Regardless of the quality of the whole package, they'll lock in on these superficial things and complain to high hell, often with suspect logic.
You are focusing on the negatives.


I'm not gonna argue this one. Fine, Batman is a 'superhero'. Some people still don't get that he's just a normal human with no battle suit (and no, this armor is not even close to IM, before I see that ridiculous comparison made, again), power rings, etc etc. Or that lumping him in with these God-like beings doesn't make any sense. But, you win the semantics battle. Have a cookie.
Yet he keeps poping up in Justice League...some of my favorite Justice League Unlimited episodes were Batman centric

Yeah, way to read indeed. I've been reading the thread, not just the single post I quoted. Ace said something about him not being IM, you came back with some smart ass comment about flying, superstrength and energy beams...it was implied, it might have been a joke, but you still said it. ANd you're not the first in this thread to do it.

Moving on...to address this hatred of the armor, once more. You don't like the aesthetic? Fine, I'm not the hugest fan of it, either. But all this BS about it not being Batman is just that. His suit has had ballistic protection since Batman #1, 69 years ago. Now, it's more hi-tech than the one in the movie. Give it up, guys. It's a fact.

I challenge you to find anything in the original Bob Kane stories that said the suit was bullet proof cause as I remember the only one to mention anything about armor was Frank Miller in TDKR where he mentions he has armor behind the Bat symbol on his chest...which is why he wears a circular symbol..it draws the eyes and guns there.

It's not the dislike of the look that bugs me, it's all the half-witted 'faithfulness' justification for the argument. It is faithful, you guys just think it's ugly. Fair enough.

And these films are about how Bruce Wayne has taken his training, toys, and intense drive to become Batman. More than anything else. He's not a badass just because of the suit, both in film and the source. They illustrate that more than enough. But he does wear the protection, same as the comics, because all the training and Batarangs in the world doesn't change the fact that he's just a flesh and blood man.

How so?

You guys have been whining about the suit being armor plates over a suit rather than under.

What else is so far out about it? Ra's isn't immortal? Joker isn't 'permawhite'?

Character's have been changed in all of the adaptations, Spider-Man has made several character's almost unrecognizable to their original version. And I'm not just talking looks, I mean the important stuff. At least Nolan's films are these characters at heart. You can't say the same about the villains of Spidey, or even the web-slinger himself to an extent.

No, they don't. I've never said it's wrong to dislike the more realistc direction. I dislike how petty most of the complaints and their justification are.


Wrong again, I'm not petty and I haven't been complaining for 50 pages because a costume is 'rubber' and all one color.

I didnt say you were petty but this is a thread labeled "I hate the Batman begin costume"?

I'll say it again for the 100th time, would I have done an adaptation the exact way Nolan has? No, particularly not in the costume department. But does that mean I'm gonna ***** to high hell just because it's not exactly like the books or conforming to my 'vision'? Hell no. These are great films, and I am so happy to see these characters truly done justice. I'll take this version of Batman and his world over whiney Spidey and his rogues gallery of largely in-name-only baddies and disco dancing...

Well that's good. You think the material makes it unfaithful. I think it's a form fitting body-suit with a cape, mask, pointy ears, and a utility belt full of those wonderful toys. Seems pretty faithful, even if it doesn't look exactly how I would like it.
So if the Iron man suit looked exactly like it does but it was made of spandex then it would be ok???

Comparing the suit in TDK to AzBat's is completely irrelevant. That suit actually justified Iron Man comparisons. That suit and the character also had a purpose in the storyline. He wasn't the Batman we know, literally, and that was the point.

The suit that Bruce Wayne wears in terms of function is not much different than TDK, it's just the fashion part that differs.

It doesn't fit in this world. It just does not. I've already said something much closer to it could be done, but not in this series. It does not mesh with the rest of the style Nolan is shooting for. If you don't believe that, whatever...

I've said several times I don't like the suit. It might be faithful to the overall concept but it's ugly. Especially the legs. Good lord. But regardless of that it does fit with this world and it's aesthetic and the rest of the film is golden. I'm not gonna spend forever complaining about such a small issue. Batman and Robin could have had the exact costume from the comics, wouldn't have made it a better film. Same as having this suit doesn't make TDK less of a film. Someday, when Nolan is gone and we're moving on to a whole new take I will be the first to suggest a more faithful look.

And I don't mean viscious in the way of being locked in a small room with a grizzly bear, and I wasn't just referring to you.

There's nothing else I have to say, and I'm not going to repeat myself. So, with that said, adios.

Calm down this is a discussion...no need to get all bent out of shape.

 

[Daredevil_2003]

Calm down this is a discussion...no need to get all bent out of shape.

I think you're inferring a little too much about this. I'm hardly bent out of shape about anything. Just tired of the whining, or more specifically, the suspect reasoning being used to support it. If I'm bent out of shape the guys that started this thread/kept it going for ages are bonkers.

Because you brought up some new questions, Cap's power level has varied, but he's often shown doing things no normal human would be able to. It's kind of moot the main conversation, but he is beyond peak human fitness in many stories.

Second, the Batsuit had a ballistic vest underneath or sewn into the costme in Batman #1, written by Bob Kane. Certainly nothing to marvel at today, but in 1940 that would have been some pretty hi-tech stuff. And past that it's common knowledge the suit is armored in the books.

I said I wasn't gonna repeat myself but you seem to be out of the loop on this one, for some reason. Hell, I have a comic cover on my wall by Scott McDaniel back when he and Brubaker were on Batman showing the fabric of the suit torn with some red hot slugs stuck in the ballistic armor underneath. It's in the Secret Files, Batman: The Ultimate Guide, Wikipedia...I really shouldn't have to explain this.

Here's the cover:

About the fanboy thing, again, I focus on the negative because that's a negative term to most.

And when I say 'lumped in with' try to think a little bigger. I know he's with the JL, I meant comparing him with these superpowered beings as part of a basis for why he shouldn't wear armor just because they dont is pushing the line of credibility, to say the least.

The only recent version he hasn't had a hi-tech suit in was BTAS. It's pretty obvious that's just spandex. I love it, and it fits with that interpretation, but it's the only one of recent memory to feature a basic leotard as the only thing between Bats and a bullet.

So if the Iron man suit looked exactly like it does but it was made of spandex then it would be ok???

This kind of grasping at straws arguing is exactly what I've been talking about all along...

 

[ANTOINE X]

I changed the color of that pic for blue and it still nice.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I admit that does look pretty cool. But I just couldn't see it in the world Nolan has created for his films. Another film franchise? Sure. But not in Nolan's, no way. Why do you guys act like that's a bad thing though?