I Have to Say it.....HML 3 Reviews.

[newavengers12]

so since u call it a running change, that mean its simply being changed?

Hope so! That=Me finding one faster!!!

 

[Ryo Jin]

and colossus's skin becomes transparent in the movies when his muscles turn steel

Has that been officially said? Because as far as I know, Organic Metal covers him, and always has.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Has that been officially said? Because as far as I know, Organic Metal covers him, and always has.

they said it back when X2 came out, they said when they designed him they designed him so that is muscles turn steel, and is skin turns transparent, thats why he has the muscle design

 

[Roughneck]

my colossus is Shiny.....Also...Really? His Skin Becomes transparent and his muscles get steely?

That's ******ed....but it explains the look....aere you serious?

 

[Roughneck]

if that's true he should stll be able to get cut and hurt.....skin anyway

 

[spideyboy_1111]

well im just telling you what the CG people said when X2 came out

 

[Roughneck]

I know.....but this is worse than Greedo shooting first.




1st time I have ever said that

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I know.....but this is worse than Greedo shooting first.




1st time I have ever said that

why? his muscles turn steel... and for all we know it could still go up... or make his skin a type of clear metal too.. i dont get the fuss

 

[Browncoat]

Danger is Meh, because I feel that she is an unecessary figure of a character that I don't think we'll see outside of Whedon's Astonishing..........but i would like an Ord.

Whether we see her again or not, she's still a character that sprung from some of the best X-Men in years, probably ever. You don't need to be as Whedon-obsessed as I am to see that. Only time will tell just how historically great Astonishing will be. And yes, there should be an Ord.

Let's forget about X3. As far as I'm concerned, that pile of dog crap masquerading around as a movie doesn't exist.

 

[HCpride]

I know.....but this is worse than Greedo shooting first.




1st time I have ever said that

its been years since ive seen star wars,whats this about now?

 

[Browncoat]

In the original version of the movie, Han Solo shot Greedo after he perceived him as a threat. In the 90's, when the movie was re released in theaters for the Special Edition, George Lucas felt that the scene cast Han in an evil light, so he had Greedo shoot first.

It looked stupid and hokey, not to mention that it sent the message that George Lucas feels everything in the SW universe needs to be in black and white, making what made Han Solo so cool in the first place void.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Whether we see her again or not, she's still a character that sprung from some of the best X-Men in years, probably ever. You don't need to be as Whedon-obsessed as I am to see that. Only time will tell just how historically great Astonishing will be. And yes, there should be an Ord.

Let's forget about X3. As far as I'm concerned, that pile of dog crap masquerading around as a movie doesn't exist.

gah i get tired of people calling X3 dog crap, just because they were dissapointed... sure it doesnt have the same quality feel of X2, but it still brought some things to the table that singer was always afraid to do.. and actually made it work.... ACTION being a big one, TEAM WORK being another.
so please... it's no where near dog crap... dog crap is litteral crap without dissapointment... like man-thing. I wont even call the overly dissapointing spider-man 3 crap

 

[spideyboy_1111]

In the original version of the movie, Han Solo shot Greedo after he perceived him as a threat. In the 90's, when the movie was re released in theaters for the Special Edition, George Lucas felt that the scene cast Han in an evil light, so he had Greedo shoot first.

It looked stupid and hokey, not to mention that it sent the message that George Lucas feels everything in the SW universe needs to be in black and white, making what made Han Solo so cool in the first place void.

either way it's a fan boy b!+(H fit

 

[Browncoat]

True, X3 worked on a Brett Ratner level, but that really isn't saying much. He's a hack, and there's nothing anyone can say to make me think otherwise. Yes, it had action, and it worked well, but it disregarded everything else ANYONE loves about the X-Men. Another thing is that it took way to many liberties with the characters. I understand that in the translation between comic to film, certain liberties need to be made to appeal to those outside the comic reading audience, but X3 pretty much said, "Comic fans, we're taking your beloved characters and screwing them over and we don't even care." Cyclops, the LEADER OF THE X-MEN died. LAME. Professor X died. EVEN MORE LAME. Powers got screwed up, the Sentinel was a tease, Rogue sold out...Oh, and the good news is that we can now identify anyone who might be bad! Just looks for the black goth look and tattoos! Thanks, X3!

Sorry. Movie is crap. Entertaining crap, sure, but should be looked at as a slap in the face to every X-Men fan out there. Crap, crap, crap, crap, CRAP. Mega crap.



And it's Star Wars. Of course it's a fanboy ***** fit. Get over it.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

True, X3 worked on a Brett Ratner level, but that really isn't saying much. He's a hack, and there's nothing anyone can say to make me think otherwise. Yes, it had action, and it worked well, but it disregarded everything else ANYONE loves about the X-Men. Another thing is that it took way to many liberties with the characters. I understand that in the translation between comic to film, certain liberties need to be made to appeal to those outside the comic reading audience, but X3 pretty much said, "Comic fans, we're taking your beloved characters and screwing them over and we don't even care." Cyclops, the LEADER OF THE X-MEN died. LAME. Professor X died. EVEN MORE LAME. Powers got screwed up, the Sentinel was a tease, Rogue sold out...Oh, and the good news is that we can now identify anyone who might be bad! Just looks for the black goth look and tattoos! Thanks, X3!

Sorry. Movie is crap. Entertaining crap, sure, but should be looked at as a slap in the face to every X-Men fan out there.



And it's Star Wars. Of course it's a fanboy ***** fit. Get over it.

wait wait wait.. are you comparing what people love about the previous films? or the X-men comics? because X3 definitely had more comic book influences and more scenes that felt like todays modern X-men books then ANY of the previous films did... My only problem with it actually was that the movie was too short, angel needed to be in it more, cyclops shouldn't have supposedly died, and jean should have made a fire bird. All that aside.. none of that really changed the story other then the Cyclops part...

 

[spideyboy_1111]

oh, and Singer took FAR more many liberties with the X-men then Ratner ever did...

-Rogue... please i dont even half to explain that one
-Colossus: singer made him a student who really didnt do anything, thats already a set back
-Storm: had no presence at all till X3
-Cyclops: whimp and not even a real leader of the team
-wolverine: you mean this movie had x-men in it?
-sabretooth: purrr like a kitten


only people singer got nearly 100% right were... Jean, magneto, Xavier, nightcrawler, stryker. and the only people who he made look extra cool in the movies were mystique and toad.

X3 had much more closer comparisons
-Storm, some say *****-y but i say she finally grew balls and became a bunch more closer to the storm we know
-Beast, pretty spot on
-iceman: o wait... was that a little more of a fun and cocky iceman? i think so
-colossus, least he did something
-multiple man: spot on
-callisto: differed in power, but over all she was close
-juggs, personality spot on, just went the mystique/nightcrawler route and didnt mention family ties
-kavita rao: spot on

 

[Browncoat]

See now, all the stuff you just listed as problems reminded me of more reasons why I didn't like it. The drama wasn't there. And when it comes to X-Men, there's a certain drama that Ratner didn't achieve. The whole "protecting those who fear and hate you" wasn't really there, among other things. I suppose that Singer already had that covered, and one could argue it wasn't necessary to try to go any further with it. Regardless, I feel that it is an essential part of the X-Men. So aside from the problems you and I already mentioned, due to the lack of drama, to me it feels like an unbalanced movie. It's like the inverse of Spidey 3. I may have walked out of Spidey 3 being a tad bored, but X3 made me angry. And hell, I'm more a Spidey fan than X-Men! You'd think I would have taken Spidey 3 as more of an insult!

I'd just like to say that I'm not meaning to come across venomous. Let's put it this way. Say you haven't watched any of the X-Men movies for awhile, and let's say your choices are the 2nd and 3rd. The choice seems obvious to me. Given the quality of the 1st and 2nd movies, I don't see much reason to watch X3 more than once. It's a common occurrence with trilogies, and I can't think of any 3rd installment that doesn't disappoint.

 

[Browncoat]

Wolverine being a screen hog seemed more apparent to me in X3 than in the other two. Stopping Phoenix required NO teamwork. It was Wolverine's win, and it sets him up to be the hero of the movie. Meh.

Beast was a joy though.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

See now, all the stuff you just listed as problems reminded me of more reasons why I didn't like it. The drama wasn't there. And when it comes to X-Men, there's a certain drama that Ratner didn't achieve. The whole "protecting those who fear and hate you" wasn't really there, among other things. I suppose that Singer already had that covered, and one could argue it wasn't necessary to try to go any further with it. Regardless, I feel that it is an essential part of the X-Men. So aside from the problems you and I already mentioned, due to the lack of drama, to me it feels like an unbalanced movie. It's like the inverse of Spidey 3. I may have walked out of Spidey 3 being a tad bored, but X3 made me angry. And hell, I'm more a Spidey fan than X-Men! You'd think I would have taken Spidey 3 as more of an insult!

I'd just like to say that I'm not meaning to come across venomous. Let's put it this way. Say you haven't watched any of the X-Men movies for awhile, and let's say your choices are the 2nd and 3rd. The choice seems obvious to me. Given the quality of the 1st and 2nd movies, I don't see much reason to watch X3 more than once. It's a common occurrence with trilogies, and I can't think of any 3rd installment that doesn't disappoint.

i watch X3 often actually.. because it has a pace to it... and more action (which is a huge thing in the X-world)

if you watch X2 and X3 back to back though X3 fits much better.. why? because X1 and X2 are about the beginnings of war... things slowly escalate, and X3 is about the war... Nearly everyone i know.. even on the boards, loved X3 when they first saw it... but then a few days later everything else kicked in and they realised it didnt live up to what they wanted. I do know what you mean about how it lacked drama.. singers great at adding that.. its just a shame he sucks at action and actually keeping his crew happy.
plus.. again if you want character development and drama.. see X1 and X2 for that... X3 is taking what we already knew and doing something with it.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Wolverine being a screen hog seemed more apparent to me in X3 than in the other two. Stopping Phoenix required NO teamwork. It was Wolverine's win, and it sets him up to be the hero of the movie. Meh.

Beast was a joy though.

lol actually rewatch x1 and X2...

X1 was all about wolverine joining the x-men
X2 was all about wolverines past

hell look at the fight scenes in the singer movies... all have wolverine.. and all but X1's short lived brotherhood fight were all the fights "wolverine vs someone"

X2 it was like... sweet nightcrawler fight, WOLVERINE, WOLVERINE, WOLVERINE, o.. jean pushed a guard into a wall... WOLVERINE, wait.. wheres cyclops?, WOLVERINE, WOLVERINE, hell ya mystique, WOLVERINE, wait... storm made lights flash, WOLVERINE WOLVERINE WOLVERINE lol

wolverine had a considerable amount of less alone time in X3... sure he stopped jean, but whos faults that? Singer already had the general audience rooting for there love. No one cared about scott

 

[Browncoat]

*sigh*

I think we can agree that ANYBODY would pile on too much Wolverine. He's been "the hook" so to speak since he joined the team. Look at the Toy Biz ML. Or their 90's X-Men toys. Or the cartoon. Or anything. There was too much Wolverine in X1 and 2, and there was in 3. Always has been the case in any X-subject.

Let's set aside this comic book store argument. I dont' even remember what this thread was about.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

*sigh*

I think we can agree that ANYBODY would pile on too much Wolverine. He's been "the hook" so to speak since he joined the team. Look at the Toy Biz ML. Or their 90's X-Men toys. Or the cartoon. Or anything. There was too much Wolverine in X1 and 2, and there was in 3. Always has been the case in any X-subject.

Let's set aside this comic book store argument. I dont' even remember what this thread was about.

well.. i wont disagree that wolverine does sell... but even on the x-men team comics hes been in them alot less.. proving that the X-team sells as a whole

 

[Browncoat]

I won't lie...Wolverine was what got me into the X-Men all those years ago. Of course, I soon discovered a wealth of great X-characters, but there's something instantly cool about Wolverine. The comic book is well established, so less Wolverine is possible. But for the sake of selling the movie to those outside the comic audience, I can see where over using the most instantly engaging character was probably for the best.

I may have judged X3 a bit unfairly (still doesn't mean I like it). The odds were against X3 from the word go, and that will always be held against it. The way I see it is the way Stan Lee once summed up his views on Marvel movies, and other writers for comics for that matter. He sees them as someone else's take on the characters, as an entirely different version than that he first envisioned. My biggest disappointment in X3 was not seeing Singer's vision completed. We can talk in circles and argue who was more faithful all day, but the truth is that Singer made better movies. To make this worse, there's the problems amongst the cast that seeped into the film. For example, I love Nightcrawler. Not seeing him in X3 hindered my opinion of it. Overall, X3 feels like a lot of lost opportunity. If Ratner had been the one to set up the film incarnations of the X-Men, X3 may have been a better movie. But then we wouldn't have X2, which I consider one of the 3 contenders for best comic book movie ever.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Singer made good movies, but over all he's absolutely horrible director for comic films... he changes too much.. good films on there own but thats about it.

 

[Roughneck]

Madrox Spot on in X3? Yeah....except for the villain part......


The thing I hate the most about X3 was When Colossus touched Rogue's head and she became metal too....they gave his powers a Kittyness to them that was dumb....Or rogue perfected her powers and never told anyone...then got rid of them