Superman Returns I Loved SR, but... The Nit-pick thread.

[The Kid]

Explain what you mean by curious. To me, he's way too scared/ terrified to be curious. He was paralyzed with fear of what he just did, he wouldn't try it again. And his reaction was that of a frightened child. I wouldn't want to test powers within the first couple of days- I would be in denial or frightened even now and I'm 18. That's the difference between fiction and reality, in reality- I doubt anybody would be curious in the way I think you're describing. It would be met with denial or shock, not "let's see if I can do that again!"

It's as easy as asking mom why I just threw a piano while we're trapped in a kitchen cabinet or whatever. If mom asked me if I could use my super strength again, I'd be interested in knowing if I really could too.

After killing someone, not only that but I'd kill more people that were dragging me and my mother into the kitchen thing, so the way they ******ed jason in the end was pretty odd after he showed such a child-like curiosity and bravery when he killed a thug. He's sort of written out as a person with a curious mind and is just the plot device superman's supposed to discover in the end. I hope my favorite character in the universe is more than this in the future!

 

[ultimatefan]

...I wish Supes had more of a sense of humor. He threw some wisecracks back in the Donner days.

 

[Tempest19]

"******ed" Jason- why? Just because he didn't react in the same fashion that you would? Lol. People react differently to different situations. You may have reacted that way, but that does not mean that everyone would- I know I wouldn't. But, hey- maybe they "******ed" me as well? Get what I'm saying? Everybody has different reactions to different scenarios, not everyone is going to act the same.

 

[The Kid]

"******ed" Jason- why? Just because he didn't react in the same fashion that you would? Lol. People react differently to different situations. You may have reacted that way, but that does not mean that everyone would- I know I wouldn't. But, hey- maybe they "******ed" me as well? Get what I'm saying? Everybody has different reactions to different scenarios, not everyone is going to act the same.

saph he's ******ed from how he was already portrayed as an iquisitive kid asking his mommy all sorts of questions.

 

[Tempest19]

EVERY kid is a curious kid. But, normal curiousity is alot different than finding out you have super powers. Compare "Mom, why is the sky blue?" to "Mom, what happened to me?"- imo, complete difference. One is every day, the other is a scary notion.

To each his own, from what I take it- you believe you would be excited- while I know that I would be terrified.

As said before, everyone has a different reaction to a different scenario. Jason's reaction does not have to be the same reaction that YOU would have to be a correct reaction. Everybody is different and responds in a different way to different things.

Thus, they did not "******" him- they made him have a different reaction than what you would have.

 

[The Kid]

EVERY kid is a curious kid. But, normal curiousity is alot different than finding out you have super powers. Compare "Mom, why is the sky blue?" to "Mom, what happened to me?"- imo, complete difference. One is every day, the other is a scary notion.

To each his own, from what I take it- you believe you would be excited- while I know that I would be terrified.

As said before, everyone has a different reaction to a different scenario. Jason's reaction does not have to be the same reaction that YOU would have to be a correct reaction. Everybody is different and responds in a different way to different things.

Thus, they did not "******" him- they made him have a different reaction than what you would have.

but ******s sit and stare at their hands so I think the film definitely ******s him.

 

[Tempest19]

So a kid paralyzed by fear is a ******? Lol. Do you even know what paralyzed by fear means?

Bruce was semi-paralyzed by fear in BB, you could see this by his reaction at the police department. He just witnessed his parent's murder. That by itself is traumatic as well.

Paralyzed by fear isn't something that was created, it happens. Jason was paralyzed by fear by what happened to him...

As said, I would react the same way and many others would too- does this make us ******s? Lol.

Kind of similar to how on actual occasions, some people freeze and are unable to move for a while after they have been terrified by someone or something.

As said everyone has different reactions to different scenarios, just because it is not the same reaction as yours does not make them ******ed, it makes them different than you.

 

[The Kid]

So a kid paralyzed by fear is a ******? Lol. Do you even know what paralyzed by fear means?

Bruce was semi-paralyzed by fear in BB, you could see this by his reaction at the police department. He just witnessed his parent's murder. That by itself is traumatic as well.

Paralyzed by fear isn't something that was created, it happens. Jason was paralyzed by fear by what happened to him...

As said, I would react the same way and many others would too- does this make us ******s? Lol.

saph he was paralyzed by fear when he threw the piano, not later. Then he was telling mom sorry and hugging and then sat down and stared at his hands for years. He has no questions? That's ******ed. He still has no questions later and it's just more ******ed.

 

[Tempest19]

Once again, difference in reactions. Maybe you would do that- while I, and others propably wouldn't like to talk about what just happened. Once again, just because some react differently than you do/would does not make them ******s.

Some people like to talk about what's worrying them, while other people feel more comfortable not talking about it.

So, once again- only difference in reaction. One with a different reaction than what you would have does not make them a ******- lol. Because more or less, that's what you're saying.

Because as I said before, I would have reacted the exact same way that Jason did. Does that make me a ******?

 

[The Kid]

saph maybe if his mom didn't see him throw a piano to kill that weird tatoo guy he could try to cover it up. he's reacting different than himself by not seeking some answers from his mother or father, especially from mommy since she witnessed it, which is pretty ******ed indeed.

 

[Tempest19]

Lol. Just because he reacts differently than you would?

As I said, I would react in the exact same way that he did to the exact same scenario- does that make me a ******? No, that just means I would react differently than you would. ****** is a term applied to intelligence, not someone that thinks differently/reacts differently/ etc. than you do.

So, for starters, one can disagree with the actions of another. But, just because another reacts differently than you would does not make that person a ******, it just means that you would act in a different manner- a la, you disagree with the reaction.

Do you even know what ****** means? Or are you using it in:

"You're ******ed for not going to that party last night"

 

[The Kid]

Lol. Just because he reacts differently than you would?

As I said, I would react in the exact same way that he did to the exact same scenario- does that make me a ******? No, that just means I would react differently than you would. ****** is a term applied to intelligence, not someone that thinks differently/reacts differently/ etc. than you do.

So, for starters, one can disagree with the actions of another. But, just because another reacts differently than you would does not make that person a ******, it just means that you would act in a different manner- a la, you disagree with the reaction.

Do you even know what ****** means? Or are you using it in:

"You're ******ed for not going to that party last night"

there are levels and factors involved, oh so many. You can portray them as ******ed but at times it goes overboard. Kids are kids, they ask questions, they have little new minds ready to be filled with anything and everything, you know. And here we have superboy. he trusts his mommy. They're like a mother and son or something... so why not ask why all of a sudden I'm not sick anymore. Why am I superboy? it does seem ******ed not to ask, especially from such an inquisitive "smart kid".

I rember a scene in the daredevil director's cut, saph. Let me tell you about it. This father and son have a very close bond, so when matt was in the hospital after being paralyzed with fear by his new enhanced senses the first person he told about it was his dad. That touched me, he really trusts his father, and maybe he's scared about his powers so he wants someone to comfort him and help him understand why he has such strange new abilities.

Jason seemed just poorly handled in the end like they didn't really know what to do with him. He used to be so curious about **** before and then he's just not for some reason. "I can throw a piano yeh.. but well, what else is new mom?" that seemed like he was ******ed there. Yeah.

 

[Tempest19]

1. I'm not Saph

2. Matt Murdock is older than Jason. Thus, Matt would be able to be alot braver than Jason at that age. Kids become more brave as they age and mature. A kid can be afraid of getting a shot at the doctor's, but by the time that kid is a teenager that fear would more than likely be gone. Not the same- I know- but, just enhance that to these levels that we are talking about. And as I said before a teenager to adult's reaction would typically range between denial, fear and acceptance. While that of a child would typically range between fear and acceptance, Jason was fear.

3. Once again, you are not using '******ed' right unless you are talking in terms of "you were ******ed for not going to the party last night". If you are talking about the actual definition of ******ed, I can not begin to tell you how far off you are.

 

[The Kid]

saph it didn't seem out of character? Jason should be even more curious about these powers than Matt was, I think. We as kids are very very dependent on our parents at jason's age, they're gods.

 

[Tempest19]

Once again, "Mom, why do I need these pills?" "Mom, why is my leg swollen?" etc. is not the same as "Mom, what happened to me?" in regards to super powers, imo. Because it's an extremity.

And, is there a way I can report you to the mods for name calling or something like that? Because I am at the edge with you and this Saph thing. Next time, I will contact the mods and see what I can do about it, I've warned you countless number of times already- so, don't do it again.

 

[The Kid]

It's the same, saphy old pal. Saphy Mc-saph-instein. Saphy Saph saph sapher.

 

[Morg]

weyseed knock it off, you don't know nothing

 

[The Kid]

arrgh. sure... but I will learn how he keeps circumventing the perma-ban and use it one day. Mark my words.

 

[C. Lee]

arrgh. sure... but I will learn how he keeps circumventing the perma-ban and use it one day. Mark my words.

Tempest is NOT saph.....so quit bugging him about it.

 

[The Kid]

Tempest is NOT saph.....so quit bugging him about it.

Ok you caught me. I'm really saph.

seriously though who is saph and how does he do it... if it's top secret info that can't be given openly, I'll take it in PM.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

This is not really a nitpick, but rather a flaw, because it´s not a small detail, but...what about Lois is an horrible mother?

Trespassing is a crime, and she does it with her son on her side.

 

[skruloos]

This is not really a nitpick, but rather a flaw, because it´s not a small detail, but...what about Lois is an horrible mother?

Trespassing is a crime, and she does it with her son on her side.

Yes but she's also Lois Lane who can't keep her nose out of trouble.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

Yes but she's also Lois Lane who can't keep her nose out of trouble.

Yes, but not with her son on her side.
That is just bad parenting

 

[skruloos]

Yes, but not with her son on her side.
That is just bad parenting

Yes it is. Wow. The character is flawed. Who'd have thought? A woman who is a reporter and a mother and her reporter side gets the better of her best judgement.

 

[Showtime]

Yes, but not with her son on her side.
That is just bad parenting

The way I look at it is that it shows the audience that despite the fact that she is now a mother, she still hasn't lost her instincts as a reporter. That scene is really a microcosm of the change in the character of Lois, can she balance being a mother and a Pulitzer Price winning reporter.