I think they should just do it.

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Make the Joker a meta with super healing abilities. I mean, he been beaten up more times then I can remember, had his teeth knocked out a bunch of times(what are they now, caps?) And Gordon SHOT OUT HIS KNEE! And this isn't even counting all the times he's fallen off high places and disappeared in fires and such. I think they should just come out and say that he's a meta. What do you guys think?
 
Uh...no thanks.
 
If you can suspend your belief enough to handle the thought of a guy dressing up like a bat every night and fighting criminals for 15 some years, I don't see how imaginging Joker has capped teeth, and a plastic knee joint would be that hard to do. :o
 
CConn said:
If you can suspend your belief enough to handle the thought of a guy dressing up like a bat every night and fighting criminals for 15 some years, I don't see how imaginging Joker has capped teeth, and a plastic knee joint would be that hard to do. :o
Let's just say he was bitten by a radioactive bat.:o :hyper:
 
something that's appealing about the Joker is you don't know how the f**k her survives all this s**t...it adds more mystery to him
 
The Joker knows that he is a comic character! So he can survive everything.
 
circa81 said:
Make the Joker a meta with super healing abilities. I mean, he been beaten up more times then I can remember, had his teeth knocked out a bunch of times(what are they now, caps?) And Gordon SHOT OUT HIS KNEE! And this isn't even counting all the times he's fallen off high places and disappeared in fires and such. I think they should just come out and say that he's a meta. What do you guys think?

I think it's a comicbook. It's not a true-to-life drama. It's not based on real events. You might as well question why James Bond has never been affected by forty years of alcohol, cigarettes and casual sex.
 
The Joker said:
something that's appealing about the Joker is you don't know how the f**k her survives all this s**t...it adds more mystery to him

Exactly. As Marv Wolfman said, "Superheroes aren't drama, they're mythology."

The Joker is the classic trickster figure, always appearing when you least expect to taunt and confuse the hero.
 
Fear of god said:
The Joker knows that he is a comic character! So he can survive everything.

Y'know, that might not be too far off. In one of the DC/Marvel crossovers, Joker makes a comment to Spider-Man about meeting once before, despite the previous crossover being retconned out and no one else remembering it. And I don't think it was a glitch in the writing, either; he's broken the fourth wall on numerous occasions (particularly in the animated series, where he'd make occasional jokes directly to the audience, and whistle his own theme music).

Every now and then they've hinted at Joker having a kind of "super-sanity" that lets him perceive more than what the average person should. However, I don't think they should ever give any definitive answers about the Joker. The fact that we don't know who he really is/was, or what he's got up his sleeve, or whether or not he knows about it, is a great part of the character. If Batman is the world's greatest detective, then Joker should be his greatest mystery.
 
Andy C. said:
Y'know, that might not be too far off. In one of the DC/Marvel crossovers, Joker makes a comment to Spider-Man about meeting once before, despite the previous crossover being retconned out and no one else remembering it. And I don't think it was a glitch in the writing, either; he's broken the fourth wall on numerous occasions (particularly in the animated series, where he'd make occasional jokes directly to the audience, and whistle his own theme music).

Every now and then they've hinted at Joker having a kind of "super-sanity" that lets him perceive more than what the average person should. However, I don't think they should ever give any definitive answers about the Joker. The fact that we don't know who he really is/was, or what he's got up his sleeve, or whether or not he knows about it, is a great part of the character. If Batman is the world's greatest detective, then Joker should be his greatest mystery.

Perfectly said.
 
Kevin Roegele said:
"Superheroes aren't drama, they're mythology."

On the other hand, I think, certainly now a days, that they can effectively be both.
 
Fear of god said:
The Joker knows that he is a comic character! So he can survive everything.
Like Deadpool!

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JLBats said:
On the other hand, I think, certainly now a days, that they can effectively be both.

Maybe not the palce to debate this, but I'm thinking about that very point. I'd say that the soap operatics introduced by Marevl in the 1960s are there to make the characters more human and easier to relate to, moreso than they are the essential driving force of the story. The average reader can't relate to a straight superhero story, but if you dress it up as a drama he can.
 
CConn said:
Like Deadpool!

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you know...I'd like to see a Deadpool/Joker crossover...I have no idea how they'd do it, but just to see those characters interact would be worth the price of the book right there :o
 
For a brief while, the Joker was the god of terror (son of Ares) in a Wonder Woman book (I think it was Paradise Lost). He had all kinds of power at that point...even if it wasn't his own. There is also the Elseworld's story "Another Nail" in which Batman finally killed the Joker, and the Joker came back from hell (after bartering with demons) to torrment Batman. He had powers in that too.
 
Joker also had Mxy's powers for a while as well
 
The Joker said:
something that's appealing about the Joker is you don't know how the f**k her survives all this s**t...it adds more mystery to him
They'll probably screw with the mystery aspect one of these days a d reveal everythng, like they did with wovlerine
 
Kevin Roegele said:
Exactly. As Marv Wolfman said, "Superheroes aren't drama, they're mythology."

The Joker is the classic trickster figure, always appearing when you least expect to taunt and confuse the hero.

That's a great quote.
 
So no one thinks it should EVER be explained how the joker not only survives all this stuff, but how he's completely healed afterwards?
 
If people were expecting realistic reasoning behind actions...nobody would read comic books. It just comes with the territory. Besides...Joker is a great character because he is free of most things like continuity. All he does, is live and breath for literal mayhem. He's a classical antagonist. The exact opposite of the hero, who sometimes drives the protagonist over the edge.
 
circa81 said:
So no one thinks it should EVER be explained how the joker not only survives all this stuff, but how he's completely healed afterwards?

no, it never should be.
 
Nope, it's pointless. The explaination for it (short of "he's a meta" which sucks in its own way:o) would probably be quite horrible as...there really isn't any explaination. He's a comic book character. And, as others have articulated, it actually helps the mystique of the Joker to not explain it.
 
The Joker is just that roach that you cannot kill......or cripple.

It's part of the whole comics thing. We just gotta suspend our disbelief. I mean....would we rather NOT have the Joker around?

I think not.
 
Fear of god said:
The Joker knows that he is a comic character! So he can survive everything.
Yeah. Explains his behavior too. I'd act like that too if I knew I was a comic book character. Man, that would be one existential-****.
 

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