I want to talk about what I dare consider very unappreciated,TTCM movie franchise

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The way I see it is like this,that this should be one of the more liked and talked about horror movie franchises around,and lately I've been mind boggled about it,and well don't understand the amount of lack of praise it receives. I would also like to say that I have seen them all with the exception of the original,and based on my experience with the ones I have seen I am inclined to believe that they are fairly good but without taking into consideration TTCM 2. So,what do you guys think about the movies? Wether you've seen any of them or not. About TTCM 2,I think what it is undone by is Leatherface caring and liking the girl from the radio station and acting too stupid accompanied by attempts at too much humor which fails.
 
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Only seen some of TCM TNG.....omg, why?

I remember that after the first time I saw it back in 1997 that I didn't like it and didn't understand wtf was going on,but now that I watched it again after buying it for real cheap I understand it better. >.<
 
I remember that after the first time I saw it back in 1997 that I didn't like it and didn't understand wtf was going on,but now that I watched it again after buying it for real cheap I understand it better. >.<

Ok...gotta admit, I only seen like the last 20 mins twice on tv...but outside of a brutal death scene (If I remember, Matthewe curb stomping a woman to death with some thing on his leg?!) and a chase scene in the woods at night...it was...yeah.

But I just imdb.omc it and it's a Horror/Comedy. Well, that explains it. Maybe one day I watch the movie...


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I'm not familiar with the franchise aside from the title, so it didn't register.
 
Ok...gotta admit, I only seen like the last 20 mins twice on tv...but outside of a brutal death scene (If I remember, Matthewe curb stomping a woman to death with some thing on his leg?!) and a chase scene in the woods at night...it was...yeah.

But I just imdb.omc it and it's a Horror/Comedy. Well, that explains it. Maybe one day I watch the movie...


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Well the version I have is uncut(93 minutes) but not,apparently if I remember right 4 extra minutes are missing,I don't understand the humor but I think it is very good with Matthew McConaughey and Renee Zellweger being the highlights in the acting department. Everyone else is serviceable in that regard imo. Maybe the curb stomping is in the movie and maybe I missed it,I have only seen it once since I bought it 3 or 4 weeks ago.
 
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The second one is the best.

NAM LAND!

DOG WILL HUN!

My brain is burnin! NAM FLASHBACK, NAM FLASHBACK!
 
I love the first one, thought the second one was entertaining but a bit silly. I haven't seen the third in a long time and don't remember if I've seen the fourth one.
 
I love TCM 2 & Leatherface TCM 3 was alright. TCM 4: TNG was the worst so far IMO. I liked the TCM remake but it was a tad bit boring & they ruined any future sequels by cutting his arm off & TCM: The Beginning was alright to but just felt thrown together to make up for how the remake went.
 
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 1 and 2 are great. TCM3...good, but far from being what it could have been (it didn't make a lot of sense). 4....No. Just no. No. No. F**k no. The teaser clip for a seperate but never released 5th film was interesting with it following Chop Top in prision...but since I haven't seen it (nor do I think it was ever completed) I can't really say anything else about it.

The remake/Prequel.......I really didn't like it. The remake, to me, missed the whole point of the original. It didn't care about the original. Leatherface, chainsaw plus victims. That really all the remake was. The prequal....sigh, I really don't want to think about that movie ever again.

I just watched the original TCM today and the documentry about it (I have the ultimate edition). TCM wasn't about blood and gore...it was about terror. It was about the unseen and forgotten and unknown. That family that lives out in the country all alone and isolated....that's a horror story just waiting to be explored and thats what TCM was all about. TCM2 was the counterpoint to the original. The other side. Sadly, the verison of that film we all know isn't the version we were suppose to see and I would love it if ever possible for Hooper to recut his version of the film. But luckly, the film itself isn't bad and you see what Hooper really wanted to do with it. The only real bad points about the film was that it was HOLLYWOOD. But that's what happens when you have a budget you don't know what to do with. But on the plus side, "Dog will hunt.."

I'm very glad to say that the series is dead dead dead. Maybe in 20 years we'll get another TCM that really represents what the story is all about without the bull*****.
 
the original TCM was brilliant!!! one of the few horror movies to actually frighten me. the sequels were nothing really worthwhile. and the remakes were just god awful. i prefer to pretend they dont exist.
 
Here's Part 2 of what I have to say about the TCSM films. *yes, thats the OFFICAL acronym for the series*

In regards to the films, they are a toss up. The first two are bookmark films. One takes place in '73, and the other takes place 13 years later. The sequal follows the family after the events of the first, where they have relocated to an abandoned theme park and have started an award winning chillie franchise (made out of their victims). It's satire. Their other brother (the hitchhikers twin) is with them now, and Leatherface has grown into a more dominate person, but is still very much under control of the other two brothers. This film shows what happens to the brothers after escaping and getting away with their murders. They travel on ego trips and paranoia. Ultimatly, they meet their ends and the true franchise of TCSM ends with Part 2.

Moving on the Leatherface, TCSM3...it's an out of continuity, what if sequal. From this point on, this film and the forth both act as reboot films to the first film, ignoring the events of TCSM2, though labeled as sequals after TCSM2 which render it confusing to continuity. Leatherface has a child (assumed to be from a raped victim) and is living with distant family members. The truck from TCSM2 makes it's appearance in this film, but the family characters are new and so out of place. The only other family member to return is Grampa (he's a corpse..I think..was he still alive?). Ultimatly, everyone in the family dies again except Leatherface (??) and his daughter (??) I'm unsure about the ending and who lives because the black guy who is obviously killed comes back to live with just a gash on his head. WTF? Friday Part 3 all over again. Never knew black guys can suffer major head trama and just shack it off like no big thing.

The forth film once again acts as a true sequal to the original film. The co-writer of the first film wrote this POS. All I remember about this film is Leatherface is in drag, eats pizza and it's a remake of the 3rd film basicly. Same similar characters from the previous film, just recast and slightly changed to be .... more crappy. This film sat on a self for about 4 or 5 years before they even released it straight to video. They really didn't know what to do with this film, but the moment it's two stars became famous they released this film to cash in. To be honest, this film was never intended to be seen and would still be sitting on a shelf if it's two stars never got acclaim.

On to Leatherface the character. In the original, he was a mentaly challenged person who lived with is two brothers who abused him. He was controlled and very scarred of people. He murdered out of fear. He didn't know where the kids came from and why they were there. And even when he killed them, and properly took care of the bodies, his older brother still found ways to neglect and abuse his actions. "..well...YOU RUINED THE FRONT DOOR!" Leatherface was motherish character to the family, as he did all the work for his brothers and took care of the house but was never appreciated.

In TCSM2, Leatherface continued this same type of mentality, but also grew older to know that he too has wants and needs. He eventrually sees a girl, falls in love, and wants nothing more than to be happy in his own bizzar fashion. Of course, his brothers abuse him about this, make fun of him, and tell him to forget it and kill her. He doesn't, but still has to show loyality to his older siblings. He also got pretty good at making mask (thanks Tom..you a-hole). The only differance is the person who played him in this film and he lost his sense of fear of the unknown others.

Onto TCSM3...Leatherface is a completely different character. His personality has changed. He still carries the mental frame of a child, but one who is more of a teenager now. He listens to rock music on a walk-man, has a daughter (?? really weird) and is very much the unoffical leader of his new family. Though one of his so called cousins (?) seems to abuse him, Leatherface isn't at all afraid to stand up for himself. Though similar to previous Leatherfaces, this films version is very different than the character we knew before.

TCSM4....That's just a completely different person all together in my view.

In the remake/Prequals.....I think they just didn't get the character. There's only one scene I really like in the remake that makes me belive they understood him, and it's when Beils character is captured and being questioned/beaten by the Sherrif and Leatherface quietly hides behind the wall, watches, and is beside himself and scared of what's happening. He doesn't understand and is very self aware that they're talking about him and it makes him upset to be 'different'. That's the only thing I liked about the character in the remake. As for the Prequal..it didn't match up to the person in the remake. It was like a progression in the character, when it should have been the reverse.

Thats' all I got to say.
 

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