I Would...But I Know Where The Wrestling Thread Has Been

[Metallo]

Look at the far left. She just leaves the match. Im suppose to feel sorry for a girl who acts as unprofessional as you can get? No freaking way.

They told her to leave the ring as quick as possible. Do you know EXACTLY how they told her to do that? Were you there backstage?

WWE doesn't give a sh** about the Diva's matches anyway so why start now? Is it professional for Vince to have Cole putting down his employees and ruining the match while its in progress?

He doesn't give a sh** how the matches go down. Doesn't give a sh** about the division. When you have stuff like that going on your talk about Gail Kims lack of professionalism is totally moot.

You don't get that this isn't about what she did in the match. Its about her standing up to McMahon and criticizing him and Vinnie Mac cannot have that cause he's an egotist through and through.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

I don't think she's getting paid. They probably suspended her without pay and used that as the reason. Also Like I said I dislike some of the things Vince has done but he's the boss. Nobody force her to sign any damn contract.

 

[Project862006]

metallo gail said on twitter she did that all by herself to see if wwe would notice

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

They told her to leave the ring as quick as possible. Do you know EXACTLY how they told her to do that? We're you there backstage?

WWE doesn't give a sh** about the Diva's matches anyway so why start now? Is it professional for Vince to have Cole putting down his employees and ruining the match while its in progress?

He doesn't give a sh** how the matches go down. Doesn't give a sh** about the division. When you have stuff like that goign on your talk about Gail Kims lack of professionalism is totally moot.

You don't get that this isn't about what she did in the match. Its about her standing up to McMahon and criticizing him and Vinnie Mac cannot have that cause he's an egotist through and through.

A fan on twitter asked her if she left the ring on purpose and she said yes. Also This year WWE tried getting the diva's rejuvenated by signing Kharma but she's got pregnant so those plans backfired. It's also not about Vince. She was with WWE before. She knew how WWE felt about the divas and how Vince was. Nobody forced her to sign that contract. She did it for the money and she got paid, so im not gonna feel jack **** about her. You can keep bashing Vince all you want. It doesn't change the fact that she knew all this and still decide to accept the paycheck.

 

[Metallo]

You don't leave in the middle of a match though. Talk **** to WWE all you want but thats crossing the line.

So I guess you do think its professional for Vince to waste his resources in a pissing contest with The state of Connecticut and use WWE resources to threaten to break campaign law and threaten the jobs of countless WWE employees?

Was Vince being professional when he caused that threat to Gail Kims job and everyone elses job in WWE? I'd have walked out on WWE on that alone. Bullsh**.

How the hell do you expect Gail Kim to be professional ina company thats not professional itself?

Its not about being professional as far as Vince is concerned. Its about teaching someone a lesson for speaking out against him.

Under the "independent contractor" label alone Gail Kim SHOULD be able to work somewhere else but she can't.

 

[Nemi]

You don't leave in the middle of a match though. Talk **** to WWE all you want but thats crossing the line.

WWE crosses the line as if that's what it's there for so I'm not exactly suprised when one of their employees acts the same right back to them.

 

[Project862006]

i agree with incredible gail did'nt go to wwe to become the divas champ and pushed well

she already had that in tna with a better division

she went back for money

she is getting older at 34 has been wrestling for over 10 years so she wanted to make some money on her way out

 

[Dr. Evil]

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[TheIncredibleSk]

You can keep bashing Vince all you want. It doesn't change the fact that she knew all this and still decide to accept the paycheck.

I'll keep saying it since its still the same. Vince isn't a saint at all but she knew about all of this and she still signed and then wants to complain. She signed for the money. She got money. She could have stayed in TNA or went to a women's indie fed. She knew WWE was never gonna be huge on Divas and yet she still went. This isn't a case of WWE screwing Gail Kim this is a case of Gail kim screwing herself. She knew WWE and Vince. She knew about what that company thought of divas yet she still went. She shouldn't complain when the only reason she went back was for money and she got it.

 

[Project862006]

people have to realize a wwe divas shelf life is short

trish wrestled in wwe for 6 years and thats it

same with lita

get that money while you can

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

Don't complain about being used when could have stayed in another fed and been the top dog but you left for the money and then you wanna act unprofessional and like a *****. Man **** Gail Kim. She knew what she was getting into. She wanted the money and she got the money. Not anybodies but hers that money don't make her happy.

 

[Metallo]

I don't think she's getting paid. They probably suspended her without pay and used that as the reason. Also Like I said I dislike some of the things Vince has done but he's the boss. Nobody force her to sign any damn contract.

He's a boss who hasn't held up his end of the deal...and he's a boss who has a double standard that breaks the very "professional rules" you're talking about.

Nobody forced her to sign contract but its pretty clear WWE didn't honor their contract with her. She wasn't even BEING used much of the time. She was contracted to wrestle.

A fan on twitter asked her if she left the ring on purpose and she said yes. Also This year WWE tried getting the diva's rejuvenated by signing Kharma but she's got pregnant so those plans backfired. It's also not about Vince. She was with WWE before. She knew how WWE felt about the divas and how Vince was. Nobody forced her to sign that contract. She did it for the money and she got paid, so im not gonna feel jack **** about her. You can keep bashing Vince all you want. It doesn't change the fact that she knew all this and still decide to accept the paycheck.

The last time she was there the Divas Division was treated far better than it is now so the point your trying to make there isn't even valid. How could she know it would get THAT bad when the last time she was there it was much better?

I'm not bashing Vince just telling the truth. Like I said as an "independent contractor" Gail Kim SHOULD be able to wrestle somewhere else but WWE doesn't even let her do that. the very terms of her "employment" status are dangerously close to being bullsh** to begin with all so WWE can skirt financial responsibilities.

But I guess you'll tow the line there too.

Like I said is it right for a boss to threaten the employment stability of ALL his employees on a childish tantrum? Cause thats what McMahon did. WWE threw professionalism out the window years ago when Vince does stuff like that. As the boss he has a responsibility NOT to intentionally ruin the livelihood of his workers.

 

[Dr. Evil]

The WWE will treat most Superstars like crap unless you draw for them or such as the case of The Rock, give them large amounts of mainstream publicity. Then Vince has no choice but to be nice. The last thing Vince needs is to do something to upset The Rock, causing him to bash the WWE and Vince McMahon whenever he promotes a movie.

 

[bullets]

Kevin Nash is expected at Raw this Monday and will be a regular character going forward on WWE TV. Nash will be doing a program with CM Punk and for those wondering, yes, the plan is for the two to meet in the ring. The idea behind the program was to give Punk a major name to work with that would put him over. Personally, I don't see how working with Nash would get him over more than the John Cena bouts had been doing, but that's just me. The backstage reaction to the Punk-Nash back and forth Monday was that Punk got the better of Nash and that Nash's comebacks came off too inside and antiquated in comparison.

Nash did not receive a big reaction coming out on Raw and the feeling after the taping was that the company needed to do a stronger job of explaining to the current generation of fans who he was. Initially, that was not a concern due to the big pop he received at the Royal Rumble.

http://www.pwinsider.com/article/60905/lots-of-wwekevin-nash-updates.html?p=1

YES t:

I think he's a good on air personality and should of been revealed as the Anonymous GM.

 

[Metallo]

Don't complain about being used when could have stayed in another fed and been the top dog but you left for the money and then you wanna act unprofessional and like a *****. Man **** Gail Kim. She knew what she was getting into. She wanted the money and she got the money. Not anybodies but hers that money don't make her happy.

What did she sign to get the money FOR? Not as a member of the ring crew but as a wrestler. Not an actor but a wrestler. Like I said theres a LOT of bogus stuff in WWE and its not going to change until people like Gail Kim speak up.

How can she even make the maximum amount of money when you aren't even being used properly?

She signed up for merchanding I'm sure. How can she even get the chance to make money off merchandising if she's not being utilized properly or at all in some cases?

Its the creative teams JOB to produce material for all the wrestlers. What the hell are they there for if its not for that?

Saying "we don't have anything for you" is a f*** all excuse and you know it. That alone is WWE failing on their end of the deal.

The very TERM for her employment is bullsh**. If she's an "independent contractor' why can't she work anywhere else while working for WWE? Explain that to me.

Just because Vince is the boss is it ok for him to break contracts? Because he's done it in the past.

And when contractual obligations are met for him he STILL throws a tantrum when he doesn't get his way. Thats exactly what happened with Randy Savage.

Its about getting his way not about Gail Kim not being professional. Unprofessional behavior has happened in WWE all the time.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

They honored their contract by paying her. Thats all they had to do. She signed her contract in 2008. The division was pretty for two years at that point. She also knew what kind of person Vince was. It doesn't matter what Vince did, you don't see any employees except Matt Hary ever do the **** Gail did. She knew what she was getting into so I won't feel any remorse for her. Vince might had done that but anybody in this business before that can tell you Vince was off his rocker so truly anybody who went until his company should know who their working under. She got want she wanted. Money. Thats what she wanted money. She left from being the top dog in TNA for money. Thats it so I won't feel sorry for her.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

What did she sign to get the money FOR? Not as a member of the ring crew but as a wrestler. Not an actor but a wrestler. Like I said theres a LOT of bogus stuff in WWE and its not going to change until people like Gail Kim speak up.

How can she even make the maximum amount of money when you aren't even being used properly?

She signed up for merchanding I'm sure. How can she even get the chance to make money off merchandising if she's not being utilized properly or at all in some cases?

Its the creative teams JOB to produce material for all the wrestlers. What the hell are they there for if its not for that?

Saying "we don't have anything for you" is a f*** all excuse and you know it. That alone is WWE failing on their end of the deal.

The very TERM for her employment is bullsh**. If she's an "independent contractor' why can't she work anywhere else while working for WWE? Explain that to me.

She signed up to get paid and be a wrestler. She was wrestling. House shows and Superstars. They gave her storylines just this past year with Daniel Bryant. Hell when she first came back they gave her chances and just like her first time in the E she never got over. So they her shots but she never took the most out of them.

 

[Heretic]

The only thing I'll say in support of Gail's actions is that her exit from that match was no weaker than whatever generally happens to a diva to pin her and otherwise eliminate her. It doesn't shock me at all that one hit could send a Diva to the mat and rolling out of the ring to the floor.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

Metallo this is just you and your problems against the WWE and I understand that but you need to get a better person for you cause than a women who went to WWE for the money and was given opportunities and didn't capitalize.

 

[Nemi]

Metallo this is just you and your problems against the WWE and I understand that but you need to get a better person for you cause than a women who went to WWE for the money and was given opportunities and didn't capitalize.

I feel like he's about to pull out a list of at least 12 people for this cause.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

Look at her whole first year with WWE. She was given multiple title shots and she never got over just like her first in the WWE.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

I feel like he's about to pull out a list of at least 12 people for this cause.

I understand where hes coming from with his problems against the WWE but Gail Kim should not be one of them.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

The only thing I'll say in support of Gail's actions is that her exit from that match was no weaker than whatever generally happens to a diva to pin her and otherwise eliminate her. It doesn't shock me at all that one hit could send a Diva to the mat and rolling out of the ring to the floor.

To me, it looked like she push Alicia then just rolled out the ring.

 

[Project862006]

gail just lacks charisma and mic skills she has a very boring personality

good in ring but you need more than that

look at poor yoshi tatsu when will he get a push

 

[Metallo]

They honored their contract by paying her. Thats all they had to do. She signed her contract in 2008. The division was pretty for two years at that point.

And after she signed the division went to total crap. Thats not what she signed up for. She also signed to get bonuses which she wasn't even given the opportunity to get when other people did.

She also knew what kind of person Vince was. It doesn't matter what Vince did, you don't see any employees except Matt Hary ever do the **** Gail did.

Theres your first problem right there. The kind of person Vince was is irrelevant. He SHOULD have been a professional businessman since WWE is a PUBLIC company now. He wasn't. He wasn't professional so why should everyone else have to be?

She knew what she was getting into so I won't feel any remorse for her. Vince might had done that but anybody in this business before that can tell you Vince was off his rocker so truly anybody who went until his company should know who their working under

Being off your rocker is no excuse for threatening the job security of your employees and its no excuse to not live up tou your end of the bargain. Vince gets away with it because no one stands up to him. More people need to do what Gail Kim did if they want real changes in WWE for the better instead of it being a halfa** run like a mob front.

She got want she wanted. Money. Thats what she wanted money. She left from being the top dog in TNA for money. Thats it so I won't feel sorry for her.

I'm pretty sure she also wanted to be used so she could make the most money possible. Thats why she signed. She never got that opportunity.

And once again I ask how can she be classified as an "independent contractor" and not even be allowed to work anywhere else? WWE has used it THEMSELVES to distance people from the company when they want to. The very classification is bullsh**.