I Would...But I Know Where The Wrestling Thread Has Been

[Dr. Evil]

I will praise the WWE for some things, like for example their video packages. They do an excellent job at those, including the Edge retirement video, which was very well done. So much so, that those retirement videos that they do bring out emotions.

 

[Project862006]

gail did drop the ball alot

do we need to be reminded of her horrible match with Mickie James

 

[Heretic]

To me, it looked like she push Alicia then just rolled out the ring.

She accidentally pushed herself away while pushing Alicia then...Divas are portrayed as being about that smart.

The point is that these sorts of matches are stupid because it kind of devalues everyone. TNA had an X Division gauntlet match tonight where 7 guys were pinned in a matter of a couple of minutes. When you treat your wrestlers like this then yeah...I believe that ANYTHING could eliminate someone.

 

[Wheels]

Do any divas have mic skills? Don't remember to many good diva promos.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

The division was in the crapper when she signed. Im not about debate you on Vince cause I don't care. She knew what type of guy he was since she already worked worked for him. If you want to stand up to Vince then don't work for him and don't accept his money. Simple as that. She got used her first year and never got over cause she's boring as ****.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Anyone think Wrestlemania 28 will be the last for Rey Mysterio, Big Show and Kane?

 

[Metallo]

Metallo this is just you and your problems against the WWE and I understand that but you need to get a better person for you cause than a women who went to WWE for the money and was given opportunities and didn't capitalize.

And I guess its you and your towing the line for WWE but you need to get a better man than Vince and a better company than WWE (who PUBLICLY threatened to break federal election law) when you talk about professionalism.

Its not "me" anything. Lets keep this on the subject instead of you trying to accuse me of something. Resorting to that kind of stuff is just disrespectful.

Gail Kim was hardly EVER given any opportunities her second go around in WWE.

How is it "my problem" with WWE when they are a company that tried to illegally take property owned by Deep South Wrestling when they severed ties with them?

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

Do any divas have mic skills? Don't remember to many good diva promos.

The Bella Twins, Beth, Nathlya, Aj, and Maxine.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Anyone think Wrestlemania 28 will be the last for Rey Mysterio, Big Show and Kane?

Oh and Taker too?

I think Rey and Show will be done after Wrestlemania 28. Taker might be done.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

And I guess its you and your towing the line for WWE but you need to get a better man than Vince and a better company than WWE (who PUBLICLY threatened to break federal election law) when you talk about professionalism.

Its not "me" anything. Lets keep this on the subject instead of you trying to accuse me of something. Resorting to that kind of stuff is just disrespectful.

Gail Kim was hardly EVER given any opportunities her second go around in WWE.

How is it "my problem" with WWE when they are a company that tried to illegally take property owned by Deep South Wrestling when they severed ties with them?

Disrespectful? Come on. Im not turning this into anything. Its clear you dislike Vince. Im not turning it into anything when I say that because its clear from what your saying. Also yes she was given opportunities. She got multiple title opportunities and chances to get over.
It's not the E's fault she cant get over. They shouldn't use someone if they cant get over. I mean lets just say theirs a reason Kelly Kelly's the divas champion right now.

 

[Wheels]

The Bella Twins, Beth, Nathlya, Aj, and Maxine.

Meh

The only woman on WWE TV right now who can entertain me on the mic is Stephanie.

 

[Metallo]

The division was in the crapper when she signed. Im not about debate you on Vince cause I don't care. She knew what type of guy he was since she already worked worked for him. If you want to stand up to Vince then don't work for him and don't accept his money. Simple as that. She got used her first year and never got over cause she's boring as ****.

The division wasn't NEARLY as in the crapper as it is now. It wasn't at its best but its gotten CONSIDERABLY worse since then. The exit/firing of talent alone is proof of that.

You say you won't debate Vince but Vince is the boss as you say. The decisions are ALL his at the end of the day. He can't be taken out of the equation. At the end of the day the buck stops with him and thats his fault because he micro manages everything.

The type of "guy" Vince is is irrelevant when you're talking about professional. By saying that you admit McMahon wasn't being professional in the first place.

Having Cole publicly demean the Divas division only weakens the chances all the women there have of doing their jobs.

Not to mention turning a blind eye to the sexual harassment of guys like Batista. Its it professional to condone that kind of work environment?

gail did drop the ball alot

do we need to be reminded of her horrible match with Mickie James

The woman got concussed. That can happen to anyone. Thats the business.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

Gail is a great women's wrestler but she could never get over even when given the opportunities which she was given. She shouldn't be mad once she took WWE's money and given opportunities and couldn't get over.

 

[Nemi]

Oh and Taker too?

I think Rey and Show will be done after Wrestlemania 28. Taker might be done.

Hmm I can see all those guys getting ready to retire but I'm sure WWE will do what it can to keep them since they don't really have new stars to take their place.

 

[Project862006]

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[Metallo]

Disrespectful? Come on. Im not turning this into anything. Its clear you dislike Vince. Im not turning it into anything when I say that because its clear from what your saying. Also yes she was given opportunities. She got multiple title opportunities and chances to get over.
It's not the E's fault she cant get over. They shouldn't use someone if they cant get over. I mean lets just say theirs a reason Kelly Kelly's the divas champion right now.

And its clear you're towing the line here because you dismiss every criticism of WWE. My dislike of Vince is irrelevant. How does that make what I'm saying any less true? Why do you feel the need to ride in like a white knight to defend Vince?

How can Gail Kim get over when she wasn't even properly utilized? They've butchered their womens division and treated it like garbage. Of course its WWE's fault when she has shown her ability to get over in the past.

She was put in many matches were she had to carry green wrestlers who weren't over themselves. She wasn't built up. her debut was STALLED for a long time after she signed to the point that much of the anticipation for her died down. And she was put in a division that was slowly whittled away to nothing. None of that is her fault.

People don't care about the womens division because WWE has made it irrelevant. When Michael Cole stands up on a desk and says womens wrestling sucks whose fault is that? Its Vince's. it was his orders.

Kelly Kelly's the champion and even she's a piss break

Did the people give a damn when Vince had Laycool call Mickie James a big fat pig for months and months? People tuned out. Stuff like that made the Divas division an eyesore and none of that was Gail Kims fault

THOSE are two women that got opportunities and they STILL didn't get over. Gail Kim never got chances like that in her second chance. wrestling someone like McCool isn't an opportunity its a burden.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Tna house show.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

Metallo Im not gonna debate you on Vince when has nothing to do with 1 girl *****ing because she could capitalize when given the chance. She was given the chance to get over so many times in her first and second run and never did and The E is suppose to use her on a daily basis? She should have stayed in TNA where she was the guy but she went to the E for the money. This is about Vince as much as you wanna make it out to be. This about Gail picking money and then blowing her chances because she's boring.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Hmm I can see all those guys getting ready to retire but I'm sure WWE will do what it can to keep them since they don't really have new stars to take their place.

Taker and Rey are one major injury away from retirement. I am thinking for Rey, they will keep him around until his replacement is ready to take over.

Before they both retire though, they need to face John Cena. I don't know how Rey and Cena would match up in the ring though. As much as I am not a John Cena fan, it's a match I want to see.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Edit.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

And its clear you're towing the line here because you dismiss every criticism of WWE. My dislike of Vince is irrelevant. How does that make what I'm saying any less true? Why do you feel the need to ride in like a white knight to defend Vince?

How can Gail Kim get over when she wasn't even properly utilized? They've butchered their womens division and treated it like garbage. Of course its WWE's fault when she has shown her ability to get over in the past.

She was put in many matches were she had to carry green wrestlers who weren't over themselves. She wasn't built up. her debut was STALLED for a long time after she signed to the point that much of the anticipation for her died down. And she was put in a division that was slowly whittled away to nothing. None of that is her fault.

People don't care about the womens division because WWE has made it irrelevant. When Michael Cole stands up on a desk and says womens wrestling sucks whose fault is that? Its Vince's. it was his orders.

Kelly Kelly's the champion and even she's a piss break

Im not ****ing defending Vince. I never said Vince was right and I even said I dislike Vince. Im not defending him at all. I haven't even defended WWE. All im saying was that she chose money and was given opportunities. Im not gonna debate you if your just gonna lie.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

Was it WWE's fault she couldn't get over when they actually gave a **** about Women's wrestling and gave a huge push?

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

Editouble post.

 

[Metallo]

Metallo Im not gonna debate you on Vince when has nothing to do with 1 girl *****ing because she could capitalize when given the chance.

I see your dislike of Gail Kim is showing. About the same as my dislike of Vince eh

You're not going to debate me but you keep talking about it! She wasn't given all these chances you talk about. She was more over in her first WWE run and her TNA run than she is now in WWE so i don't know what your talking about.

Since your so gung ho on it why don't you NAME all these so called chances she got to get over in WWE. Jobbing on superstars (which almost nobody watches) is a chance to get over?

She was given the chance to get over so many times in her first and second run and never did and The E is suppose to use her on a daily basis? She should have stayed in TNA where she was the guy but she went to the E for the money. This is about Vince as much as you wanna make it out to be. This about Gail picking money and then blowing her chances because she's boring.

Its about Gail Kim being misused and having the right to speak her mind if she wanted someone to pay attention.

How the hell can the woman blow a chance when she usually never got one and when she did the chances were terrible or not particularly noteworthy to begin with? Is carrying a black hole of suck like half the divas a chance?

particularly when OTHER women like McCool were given 50 times as many chances...STILL didn't get over...and still given yet more chances. That right there shows how flawed your logic is on this. Not so easy to get over when the focus isn't even put on you for a fraction of time.

And the most over women in the company (Mickie) was jobbed out and made to look a fool to get over a woman who really wasn't over (McCool). Most off the women were fighting an impossible battle to begin with then the deck is stacked like that.

These chances that you say Gail Kim got weren't the golden opportunities you make them out to be.

 

[Dr. Evil]

If Gail Kim speaks her mind, the WWE punishes her. If CM Punk does it though he gets a new contract, plus in a storyline with Triple H.

Just the nature of how things are going in the WWE. And it's all based on status in the WWE.