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[Aristotle]

Yes, now explain to us how you would do them.

I don't want to go into excessive detail, but it would involve my penis, a lobster, an XBox controller, a feather boa, a capgun six-shooter, a pair of handcuffs, and a pirated DVD of The Simpsons movie.

 

[Rorschach II]

Would anyone here want to give Lex Luthor powers, even minor ones?

 

[Batman]

No.

That would completely ruin the point of the character, for me. What makes Lex Luthor... well, Lex Luthor, and Superman's greatest enemy, is the fact that he's nothing more than a mere human being. But his intellect is his greatest weapon against a demigod from space, and usually, he manages to find results, even in the face of defeat. He's pretty much the opposite of Superman... Superman can rely on physical brawn to owerpower his enemies with ease. Lex relies on the mental power of the human mind.

Giving him superpowers would make him just any other villain, and a far less entertaining one. IMO, of course.

 

[Rorschach II]

I agree. I was debating this in school, that's why I asked.

Didn't they give him a perfect immune system on Smallville or something?

 

[WompuM]

For like half an episode.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Lex Luthor can't have powers. The modern incarnation is so consumed with hatred for Superman because he believes absolutely in human potential. He thinks normal people can accomplish great things, and he sees godlike aliens like Superman as an impediment to that because by saving people, he's preventing the human race as a whole from culling its stupid, danger-prone throwbacks and coming out better for it.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Lex Luthor can't have powers. The modern incarnation is so consumed with hatred for Superman because he believes absolutely in human potential. He thinks normal people can accomplish great things, and he sees godlike aliens like Superman as an impediment to that because by saving people, he's preventing the human race as a whole from culling its stupid, danger-prone throwbacks and coming out better for it.

Exactely, though if we are doing a reboot could he occasionally just kick the hell out of Supes and require him to outwit him rather than the usual, "well I'm superman so nothing really affects me anyway" copout?

Lex and Supes are polar opposites and should remain that way. No powers for Lex his mind is his weapon and that's really all he needs.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The power suit is good for allowing Lex to kick Supes' ass if he needs to. I can even deal with it using that awful green and purple color combo.

 

[moraldeficiency]

The power suit is good for allowing Lex to kick Supes' ass if he needs to. I can even deal with it using that awful green and purple color combo.

Luckily I'm color blind. I don't really like lex in the suit though. He's a planner, Supes should get his @ss kicked by lex because he rushes in and falls into lex's traps. He generally gets out by the stupid copout of "well nothing can really hurt me so there". I'd rather see him have to use his powers and his brains to beat lex. I don't really want to see lex beat supes with his hands, that ruins the diacotomy between the characters IMO.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Lex's intellect and planning should defintiely be his primary weapons, but I don't mind a little hands-on action with the suit every now and then.

 

[yenaled]

I love me some power suit. It's shown up a bit too much recently but I love seeing Lex all powered up and angry. He can't always kill hundreds of people with a press of a button like in 52.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Lex's intellect and planning should defintiely be his primary weapons, but I don't mind a little hands-on action with the suit every now and then.

You don't think it takes away from the motivations of the character? Lex is a human, supes is a god. Lex wants to take down a god as a man. His weapon is his mind. I'd like direct confrontations to be simple between them, supes outclasses any human immensely in physical terms, but lex outclasses supes in mental ability. Lex uses traps and pawns, supes uses his powers. Directly facing each other I don't want Lex slapping clark around, I want him to simply screw with supes mind as supes takes him to jail, maybe make him question himself/his motives/his purpose. Lex should get the upper hand far more often than he does, but I'd like him to remain firmly grounded as a human. No powers, suits, or anything like that. Just him outthinking his opponents. That's the dynamic I like.

But I do understand where you're coming from.

 

[yenaled]

Lex believes someone who isn't Human shouldn't have so much power, influence and love on Earth and that in the long term Superman is hurting humanities progression. I think by him using his own intelligence to build a power suit to put him at Superman's level to take down this "invader" - without making Lex anything other than Human - is perfectly in character.

Lex building a powersuit or Lex building a deathtrap isn't really that different.

 

[moraldeficiency]

But it is. Because one is using your mind to defeat an opponent from a distance, sitting back and watching the result. The other involves you personally getting into the fray and possibly getting your @ss kicked. Lex should feel getting physical beneath the intellect and skills of someone like himself. I don't mind him making the suit, I just don't want him inside of it.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Lex is still using his mind to build the power suit. If a man can build a machine that lets him stand toe-to-toe with Superman, how is that not embracing the idea of Lex as a believer in human potential? Technology is an extension of the human mind.

Now, if Lex were just slapping together a suit of armor from Apokoliptian tech or something, that would suck. But, as far as I know, Lex built his power suit from scratch and the only alien artifacts in it are the Kryptonite crystals on the knuckles, which is just more good planning at work, since he knows they hurt Superman.

Also, Lex isn't ever gonna use his power suit to become a superhero and make humans lazy by saving them, either. He's built it for one specific purpose, just as he lays traps for a specific purpose and plans contingencies for specific purposes.

 

[yenaled]

Ahh, I understand where you are coming from, that's cool.

I just think with the amount of hatred Lex must have for Superman and the frustration of being foiled time and time again. I wouldn't ever want to deny Lex of the emotion or want to just think "I need to hit him, I need him to feel pain from my fist, I need to physically hurt the guy."

It's all good seeing Superman in pain from some Kryptonite, but if you really hate him just a few times you want to be right there, being the reason for his pain - not an almost passive part of it.

I'm not saying all the time obviously, but the powersuit is good to ship out now and again.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, as cerebral and intellectual a character as Lex is, there comes a point in a rivalry as intense as his and Superman's where anyone would just want to punch their opponent in the face for the sheer satisfaction. It's only human.

 

[moraldeficiency]

I agree, and nice play on words there. My only thought is, if lex can make this suit why not build ten, put ten minions into them and let them beat down supes. Then he walks up as a human, spits in the face of a god and sits back watching them beat the boyscout to death. That's mind over brawn and I just feel that's more lex's style.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know, why doesn't Iron Man do that? Why does Dr. Doom build so many things into his armor when he's got legions of Doombots? Most super-intelligent people tend to figure out some way to protect or empower their own bodies.

 

[moraldeficiency]

I don't know, why doesn't Iron Man do that? Why does Dr. Doom build so many things into his armor when he's got legions of Doombots? Most super-intelligent people tend to figure out some way to protect or empower their own bodies.

Tony is a hands on guy. He wouldn't use people as pawns (and before anyone cries civil war, remember tony was mixed up in it personally from the beginning) he's also not trying to prove anything, he needed to make the suit to live, now he uses it to help others. Very different motivations. Though tony does have a ton of drone robot suits without humans inside.

Doom does it for personal protection not to mention he uses his personal armor to sap power. Doom is very unlike lex. Doom wants personal power in all forms. Lex wants power but only on his terms.

I'm not saying it doesn't make sense for lex to want power for himself, I'm just saying it contridicts what I feel (personal opinion btw) is one of his core motivations and one of my favorite parts about the character. I don't want lex to be a doom knock off, I want him to fight on his own terms.

 

[Kitsune]

The suit is green and purple (Ie Pink) because Superman wears primary colors. and Green and Purple aren't (just imagine if he added orange to the suit)
Sometimes I think Lex is also colorblind, but that would be really bad for him, because he wouldn't know what kind of kryptonite to use.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I know the metatextual reasons why the costume is green and purple. I just think it looks like ass. I honestly don't know what else they could really do with it, though. Black is too cliché, red and blue are off-limits, and most of the other colors kind of suck.

 

[yenaled]

That never occurred to me before

Lex has excellent taste in clothes, I love his purple and black cross get-up too.

 

[moraldeficiency]

For the rest:

Superman - tone his power down and make him a character that makes sense on earth. Change Lex as indicated. Make him the ONLY kryptonian let alive. Make him think things through a bit more throughly. Lose the cape.

Batman - No more punching darkseid or any of that. Otherwise he's the @oddamn batman, he's great the way he is.

Wonder Woman - give her better villians, and less with the whining.

Martian Manhunter - same

Green Lantern - cancel the color weakness thing. Make him the main powerhouse in the JL.

The Flash - Give him more respect. Make him more of a prankster, a little shadier.

Aquaman - where to begin? give him the power to control water and flow along with the fish thing. The regen thing from justice was cool, keep that. He should be the environmentalist on the team, the guy who asks what price do we pay for our actions. Also give him different morals, make him the killer on the team.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think I like any of your ideas for the JLA outside of the ones you're just keeping the same...