If Miller Is Off The Project...Who Is YOUR Director?

[The Major]

Have you actually seen that movie? Cause a director who's able to make a movie about a LITTLE PIG as good as that can't possibly make crap out of the Justice League...

That doesn't mean he'll be good JL director. Schumacker is a good director, too. We still got Batman and Robin.

Of course he's talented. He just hasn't shown he's a good for Justice League to the public yet.

 

[The Major]

No, dnno is right about this one. I was all for Whedon writing Wonder Woman. What could be better? He just seems to get female characters.

Whedon's great at writing ensemble casts. Buffy, Serenity/Firefly and Angel speak for themselves.

He's a huge comic fan with the talent to back it up.

But then once I heard what the outline for the plot was, I had to eat crow. He had the story all wrong.

Do you have a link to the outline?

So, for once, WB was actually right in dumping him.

I read an article at Sci-Fi Wire which gave him an interview about WW. It said that he left after Silver wasn't giving him any creative direction but instead of firing him he just had Whedon just do numerous outlines which weren't going to be used anyway.

If that's true I can't blame Whedon for leaving.

Here's a similar interview.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: You mentioned during your panel that it's been a rough couple of years. Are you speaking, in particular, of your aborted Wonder Woman movie?
JOSS WHEDON: I in no way want this to be a slam on Warner Bros., but the fact of the matter is, it was a waste of my time. We never [wanted] to make the same movie; none of us knew that. And it was a waste of their time because I had a lot of trouble writing — not just writing that, but writing at all. Part of it had to do with having just finished Serenity. I ran into James Gunn, who'd just done his first film, Slither. And he was like, ''The director in me killed the writer in me.'' And we fell on each other. It was like finding a support group. After you direct and edit something, you just realize everything is negotiable. The line that you died for, you pull without hesitation because [the script] seems a little long. He was like, ''Every time I sit down to write I think, Is this even going to make it in?'' And you can't write like that.

Joel Silver bought another Wonder Woman script while you were still on the project. Did you see that coming?
I was warned by a friend that it was happening. And I was already well aware that people were not liking what I was doing. So I don't feel like I was blindsided. I sent them an outline for a new draft that I felt was exactly what I wanted, and they didn't want to do it. Joel told me that. And I was like, ''Can you tell me what they want? Can you tell me what they don't like?'' The answer was ''No.'' Then I was like, ''Okay, but I'm certainly not going to start from scratch.''

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20049318,00.html

 

[Orin]

That doesn't mean he'll be good JL director. Schumacker is a good director, too. We still got Batman and Robin.



Of course he's talented. He just hasn't shown he's a good for Justice League to the public yet.

It's not like he's shown that he's bad for Justice League either. I mean, you've got to start somewhere to show that your able to make movies like Justice League. And in Miller's case, maybe it acutally is Justice League, that will show us that. Just because there are directors who've already done similar movies dosn't mean a director who hasn't can't be the man who in the end will make the better movie out of the League. Miller is a great director, who made great movies in all diffent kind of generes, which is the first step. Let the man show what he's got to offer...

 

[Webhead2006]

Yes he may be a good director but with most of the casting and alot of the rumors we have heard both good and bad not alot of it has instill alot of faith to people.

 

[cerealkiller182]

With directors you have to pidgeon hole them for adaptations.Look at Burton. His Batman worked because it fit his normal tone and style, but his Superman wouldnt have been good because it doesnt adhere to his normal tone and style.

I hate to do something like that, I'd never do it with original projects though.

 

[Orin]

Yes he may be a good director but with most of the casting and alot of the rumors we have heard both good and bad not alot of it has instill alot of faith to people.

Well, if you want to base your opinion on internet reports/rumors, so be it...

 

[Sawyer]

and Mad Max, The Road Warrior. Witches of Eastwick, Lorenzo's Oil (brilliant). Funny how you only bring up the not so good film he made.

None of those are good...

 

[Jake Cassidy]

None of those are good...

You don't like 'The Road Warrior'? What's wrong with you?

Next you'll be telling me you don't like 'Die Hard'. t:

 

[KELLEL]

You don't like 'The Road Warrior'? What's wrong with you?

Next you'll be telling me you don't like 'Die Hard'. t:

LOL!

Miller is fine, IMO.

Burton, favreau, NONE of those guys were big at first. I believe in Miller, i just hope he's got a good Superman and Batman actor and that cotrona for Supes and Hammer for Bats is only a rumor....

 

[Webhead2006]

well actually they probably are/were the cast before the delay made the casting contract lapse and everyone isnt contracted any more so any one could be gone now once they officially come out wit what they want to do with the film. So hopefully if there is some people not able/wanting to return it is cotrona and hammer so they have to recast them and this time if that happens to better suited people.

 

[I Am The Knight]

LOL!

Miller is fine, IMO.

Burton, favreau, NONE of those guys were big at first. I believe in Miller, i just hope he's got a good Superman and Batman actor and that cotrona for Supes and Hammer for Bats is only a rumor....

Of course Miller might be past his prime by now...We'll see. I really want to see what he does with JL.

 

[Superhobo]

Miller? Really?! The Director of Babe: Pig in the City? There are hundreds of directors better suited for JLA than this shmuck.

You've never seen it, have you?

None of those are good...

Clearly, you're insane. Miller's been called one of Australia's greatest directors, among other things - I mean, my god. How could you not like "Babe: Pig In the City?" Or "Lorenzo's Oil?" Or - well, any of his films? They're masterful.

 

[Sawyer]

Clearly, you're insane. Miller's been called one of Australia's greatest directors, among other things - I mean, my god. How could you not like "Babe: Pig In the City?" Or "Lorenzo's Oil?" Or - well, any of his films? They're masterful.

Okay, I may have been exaggerating when I said none of his films were good. Mad Max was okay....

But, I just dont feel that this guy is suited to do the JLA justice. Justice League is an epic, and deserves only the best of directors. And, to me, Miller just doesnt qualify.

 

[Superhobo]

Okay, I may have been exaggerating when I said none of his films were good. Mad Max was okay....

But, I just dont feel that this guy is suited to do the JLA justice. Justice League is an epic, and deserves only the best of directors. And, to me, Miller just doesnt qualify.

What? Every one of his films - besides the Babe films and Witches of Eastwick - are the definition of epic.

"The Road Warrior?"

"Beyond Thunderdome?"

"Happy Feet?" (arguably the most epic CG-animated film to date)

 

[Sawyer]

Forgive me. I didnt mean to say "JLA is an epic"

I meant to say "JLA is the epic"

 

[Maze]

What? Every one of his films - besides the Babe films and Witches of Eastwick - are the definition of epic.

"The Road Warrior?"

"Beyond Thunderdome?"

"Happy Feet?" (arguably the most epic CG-animated film to date)

Agreed .

the man is born to do a comic book movie of this scope.

 

[Webhead2006]

Well he maybe a good director but with his casting decisions and the rumors of his thoughts messing up the script and all the rewrites needed it doesnt sound like miller was a good idea.

 

[Superhobo]

Agreed .

the man is born to do a comic book movie of this scope.

Oh, hell yes.


If you'd listen to how he talks about the characters, he really gets them with that "Greek god" aspect.

 

[Superhobo]

Well he maybe a good director but with his casting decisions and the rumors of his thoughts messing up the script and all the rewrites needed it doesnt sound like miller was a good idea.

Remember, it's not like Miller has complete control over the casting decisions, so it's not like he can just say, "alright, I want this guy."

 

[Superhobo]

Forgive me. I didnt mean to say "JLA is an epic"

I meant to say "JLA is the epic"

Ahuh.

And "The Road Warrior" was the epic action film of the eighties; it redefined the 'post-apocalyptic' genre.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Ahuh.

And "The Road Warrior" was the epic action film of the eighties; it redefined the 'post-apocalyptic' genre.

It also redefined how action movies, specifically car chases, were filmed. t:

 

[Superhobo]

It also redefined how action movies, specifically car chases, were filmed. t:

Yes!

I'd imagine "Happy Feet" has had something of the same kind of effect on CG films - storytelling-wise and visually.

 

[Sawyer]

Well he maybe a good director but with his casting decisions and the rumors of his thoughts messing up the script and all the rewrites needed it doesnt sound like miller was a good idea.

Precisely.

 

[Superhobo]

Precisely.

Sigh.

Remember, it's not like Miller has complete control over the casting decisions, so it's not like he can just say, "alright, I want this guy."

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Yes!

I'd imagine "Happy Feet" has had something of the same kind of effect on CG films - storytelling-wise and visually.

Probably. t:

The thing I like about Miller is his, obvious, versatility. Who'd have ever thought that the creator of Mad Max would make Happy Feet?