If X1/2 are better than X3 then......

[PoSeiDon]

As far as money goes Spiderman and X-men are money making powerhouses in their own right! But for some reason Spiderman Will continues to out-do X-men at the box office(Spiderman 3 might prove that).

Comic fans general opinion is that Singer was more faithful and stayed truer to the comic book, which is debatable. So why has Spiderman kicked X-men's butt at the box office and with critics alike? I personally prefer X-men, films and comics, over spiderman.

Other than the obivous fact of "Spiderman has been around longer". Other factors has to come into play. A movie will catch movie goers attention with its trailers and promotion. Both had great promotion yet Spiderman did something more to always "win" the superhero box office.

 

[Mistopurr83]

Comic fans general opinion is that Singer was more faithful and stayed truer to the comic book, which is debatable.

Actually it was vice versa.

 

[PoSeiDon]

well since x-men 3 came people on this board seem to think x1/2 were more faithful then 3 was lol if thats any indication

 

[Mr. Socko]

I could name tons of things that was different from the comics in X1 and X2.

But Singer has stated numerous times that he wanted to make the characters different and that he bases the characters off of their comic book form but changes them around.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

As far as money goes Spiderman and X-men are money making powerhouses in their own right! But for some reason Spiderman Will continues to out-do X-men at the box office(Spiderman 3 might prove that).

Comic fans general opinion is that Singer was more faithful and stayed truer to the comic book, which is debatable. So why has Spiderman kicked X-men's butt at the box office and with critics alike? I personally prefer X-men, films and comics, over spiderman.

Other than the obivous fact of "Spiderman has been around longer". Other factors has to come into play. A movie will catch movie goers attention with its trailers and promotion. Both had great promotion yet Spiderman did something more to always "win" the superhero box office.

ummmm actually many believe singer strayed far from the comics....

Rogue was no where like the rogue we know...

Cyclops and Storm were both spit on by singer... and its sad that only storm was able to shine in X3... maybe X4 (if it happens) will give us more on scott

iceman under singer also never acted like iceman...

singer also never gave us one of the most trademark X-men traits.. fighting as a team...

he also refused to let x-men fly saying he didnt want "pointless flyers" (wich then he went and did superman......)

he also focused way too much on wolverine and constantly gave us "1 on 1" fights...

he also gave us very VERY little cameos when he could have easily given us alot more

 

[BMM]

Wow. Those points (^) are ridiculously debatable.

Regardless, the poster said many fan complaints are that Singer was more faithful . . . not that X-Men and X2 were faithful and that X3 was not . . . and in case you haven't noticed, most of the fan complaints are in fact that, despite the increase in action, X3 was even less faithful to the characters and storylines than the previous ones. Also, he says this point is debatable . . . he doesn't say it is outright fact, so ease up a bit.

That being said, given the mass following the Spider-Man movies have managed to achieve, I'm sure the next Spider-Man movie will probably yet again outshine X3 . . . in terms of box office, the Spider-Man films are hard to catch. Even with it opening on Memorial Day weekend, X3 didn't beat either of the previous Spider-Man records.

 

[Cyclops]

Yet he stayed true to what made the characters great in the first place. Go figure.

 

[PoSeiDon]

After reading why some people here dont like X3, some have actually mentioned in their post that singer was better to the x-men franchise and was more faithful in relation to kingber/penn/ratner's x-men 3! yes they did! i dont feel like going to look for some of them cause the spoiler boards stay very active. thats why i made this post.

Talking to people on other on comic websites who were fans of the x-men comic felt that X3 was better because it felt more like x-men. and just a few here say the opposite.

but what i was getting at was, is spiderman more suscessful in the movie verse because its more faithful to its comic roots then x-men is. with an abundance of characters to choose from and a political sub-context to it, i would have thought x-men, all 3 of them, could have out done spiderman and the upcoming spiderman 3 critically and financially.

 

[Cyclops]

Actually, there are quite a few of us here who think counter to X3 being better than the previous films. I'd say it's just about split even.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Actually, there are quite a few of us here who think counter to X3 being better than the previous films. I'd say it's just about split even.

id agree too... its just quite obvious the haters are more vocal about it

 

[Cyclops]

Well, of course. Gushing praise only goes so far. Bitter vitriol keeps going and going and going...

Me, I can't see how any X-Fan could have enjoyed it, but that's just me.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Well, of course. Gushing praise only goes so far. Bitter vitriol keeps going and going and going...

Me, I can't see how any X-Fan could have enjoyed it, but that's just me.

Well your also a big cyke fan... lol

but i thought the movie was much more true to the spirit of the comics, and was in alot of ways everything i wanted that singer never gave us

 

[Cyclops]

And I just felt it was a slap in the face to everyone who's got personal stock invested into who these characters are. Plus it was poorly written, shoddily edited, and sloppily directed.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

And I just felt it was a slap in the face to everyone who's got personal stock invested into who these characters are. Plus it was poorly written, shoddily edited, and sloppily directed.

meh i didnt feel that.. X2 and X1 were great but a lil too slow paced in some scenes wich wasnt needed.. personally if you compiled elements of X2 and X3 they'd make the perfect X-men Movie

 

[TNC9852002]

I'm thinking that Spider-Man has had the general appeal to the public for decades, almost ever since it's television debut in the 60's. So, it's popularity is rooted in the American entertainment mainstream..X-Men on the other hand, has been rather late, only hitting it's true mainsteam popularity in the early 90's...

Similar to the Fantastic Four, The Hulk, on the other hand, has been on and off for decades, never truly reaching the general popularity as other icons such as Superman, Spider-Man, or Batman. Hulk is mostly known by it's 70's tv show and some cartoons that were less than popular. It's appeal didn't really stay consistent among the new and old audiences. Those that truly remember Hulk probably couldn't attach themselves to the Hulk shown in the Ang Lee movie. A Hulk sequel could still become quite successful since the 2003 movie has been gaining more supporters over the last few years..

-TNC

 

[PoSeiDon]

i still cant blieve i ordered that shame of a movie called the hulk lol.

but i support all comic to film movies since im a comic fan. but it did surprise me that one character can out shine a superhero team lol. but both franchise are great..just like xmen more

 

[Decay]

I believe that the plot of X-men 2 and 1 were kinda more tight up together...there was some confusing scenes in X-men 3 and some things that didn't seem to fit in.

 

[Image]

i still cant blieve i ordered that shame of a movie called the hulk lol.

but i support all comic to film movies since im a comic fan. but it did surprise me that one character can out shine a superhero team lol. but both franchise are great..just like xmen more

I agree lol, but I prefer Spider-Man.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

As far as money goes Spiderman and X-men are money making powerhouses in their own right! But for some reason Spiderman Will continues to out-do X-men at the box office(Spiderman 3 might prove that).

Comic fans general opinion is that Singer was more faithful and stayed truer to the comic book, which is debatable. So why has Spiderman kicked X-men's butt at the box office and with critics alike? I personally prefer X-men, films and comics, over spiderman.

Other than the obivous fact of "Spiderman has been around longer". Other factors has to come into play. A movie will catch movie goers attention with its trailers and promotion. Both had great promotion yet Spiderman did something more to always "win" the superhero box office.

i prefer spiderman but im gona try and be unbiased in my responce. first off spiderman appeals more to young children. hes flashier and more colourful and all around more interesting to look at (for a kid). teens tend to relate more to the high school spiderman or the depressed teen who wants the girl but cant have her sorta thing like in spider-man 2 (they like to think there life is difficult trust me im a teen:P) also for adults its the whole nostalgia factor of the cartoons and the comics and wat not. so basically spiderman appeals to every age group pretty much. also i think that in the advertising spiderman comes off with more of a wow factor...with the shots of him web swinging and the music and the whole new york settin is always so breath taking. now i know x-men is good 2 but its more directed towards young adults (even tho lots of older ppl love the movies as well) so basically spiderman appeals to a wider range. x2 is one of my favorite movies tho so trust me i love x-men as well i hope this is at least a generally good answer lolspidey:

o yah and the trailers for spiderman movies always stick more then the ones for x-men even tho there both awesom i think spidermans jus more memorable.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

I'm thinking that Spider-Man has had the general appeal to the public for decades, almost ever since it's television debut in the 60's. So, it's popularity is rooted in the American entertainment mainstream..X-Men on the other hand, has been rather late, only hitting it's true mainsteam popularity in the early 90's...

Similar to the Fantastic Four, The Hulk, on the other hand, has been on and off for decades, never truly reaching the general popularity as other icons such as Superman, Spider-Man, or Batman. Hulk is mostly known by it's 70's tv show and some cartoons that were less than popular. It's appeal didn't really stay consistent among the new and old audiences. Those that truly remember Hulk probably couldn't attach themselves to the Hulk shown in the Ang Lee movie. A Hulk sequel could still become quite successful since the 2003 movie has been gaining more supporters over the last few years..

-TNC

i agree he put it better then i did