Crazyrabbits - 1. Thats the right angle. 2. Watchmen was a good movie, but the reason it was unsucessful is that it was a much unheard comic book that only comic book nerds would know about. If Watchman had been i dont know been a real life story that was part of history, it would be mega popular, but it wasnt, its up to us as fans to premote this movie during DVD sales and get people to like it, because cinema statistics doesnt make it success. 3. The Batman series has been ultered so many times even a pastic supermodel with nothing real could tell an amazing story. Batman Begins was good because they basically forget the main character was batman... it was strong, heavy focesd on bruce wayne and his self searching enlightenment. It was less of an origin of batman as to a re-awakening of the soul for bruce wayne. 4. yes, singer did get alot of scruitiny but he was given more freedom to make x2 than he did with x1. 5. Your wrong on that point, Matthew Vaughan couldnt commet what fox wanted to rush with x-men 3, Ratner on the otherhand is good at making films quick, hence rush hour. 6. you can predict box office success, its why studios fight for may 1st showing... whoever gets that gets the sucessful franchise. but you would have to really work in the industry to see that.
Pyromaniac - because crazyrabbit seems to want to give there expertease based on there own oppinion without any knowledge of the industry. Forgive him though, he is just one of many who just was peed off with the outcome of the movies because it didnt fit his vision... and i agree about watchmen comment.
Crazyrabbits - not needy, no, had you considered the fact that fox maybe fans of marvel too and want to get as many storys out because there are so many wonderful characters with great stories to tell. There only problem is that they are a studio, a business, there not in the business to make a movie that only one person would like, they make to make a movie that makes money... so dont blame them, blame the way it is with the industry, hell, blame it on us for hating what they combined to try and satisfy us in the first place.
Oh...my head. Capitalization!
Anyway, Watchmen is the only graphic novel that is listed on Time's 50 Best Books of All Time. Its sales jumped tenfold when WB ramped up the film's advertising campaign. It's not just something only "comic book nerds" know about. It's recognized as one of the best works of the storytelling medium, no matter how old you are.
Let's be honest: fanboys don't make the box office. If that were the case, films like Snakes on a Plane and this would have done gangbuster business. You said it yourself later in your response: these films are made by committee for the widest possible audience. Very seldom do we get movies that have a director who genuinely loves the source material enough to respect it.
Batman Begins respected the source material, and drew in crowds that were disenfranchised with the previous films. It had nothing to do with simply putting out another movie. It was resetting the entire franchise and telling a new origin story, one that follows much closer to the comic books in spirit.
With X-Men 3, there was the potential to make something as good as the previous film, but Vaughan didn't want to be rushed by Fox, so he left, citing that he didn't want to uproot his family and move them to Vancouver for six months. It was clearly being said at the time that Fox was trying to rush the production schedule to meet a summer (July, I think it was) release date, because it would have a two week gap to make serious money. A 2007 CinemaBlend.com interview clearly states:
"Vaughn says he left because he was being rushed.
“What happened with X-Men 3 was I didn't have the time to make the movie that I wanted to make. I had a vision of how it should be, and I wanted to make sure I was making a film as good as X-Men 2, and I knew there was no way it could be. I just suddenly knew it wasn't the right thing for me to do.”"
Now, do I have knowledge of the film industry? Yes, I have been (on separate occasions) on both a movie and television set. I understand the intensive process that goes into making a single scene, and how much blood, sweat and tears go into it. After all, I did work as an entertainment editor for my local college newspaper. It helps to have an understanding of the film industry before you talk about it.
It doesn't matter if Wolverine opened May 1. Not this year. It's had a week to make bank before Star Trek comes in, and that won't be opposed by any other film. Literally, this weekend's entire theatrical slate has been cleared for Star Trek. It's going to turn big bucks. It's got a young cast, it's a reboot, it's got the RIGHT kind of fanservice, and it won't insult our intelligence. After all, it's getting crazy word of mouth right now. In another two weeks, Terminator: Salvation will probably blow both of these films away.
That is why you are wrong.
I have to agree. Vaughn left because Fox mucks with the creative process and they just rushed to meet the release date and we get a mediocre film. With this film, they had all the time in the world and they seemed to have a good script but they said chop it down to 90 minutes and we are good and Gavin said yes because he doesn't have a huge love for these characters like Singer had. To be honest, I am shocked we got X2 and I think we should thank the heavens that at least we got one great X-Men film without the Fox treatment. Fox will never learn.
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