If you Don't like the movie - POST HERE

[Mike059jig]

this forum will be boring if the people that like the movie don't post in here.....its what keeps this forum interesting...........I'm not picking side or nothing.....just saying

 

[LastSunrise1981]

this forum will be boring if the people that like the movie don't post in here.....its what keeps this forum interesting...........I'm not picking side or nothing.....just saying

I understand what you're saying. But those who don't like the film aren't always patting one another on the back. We actually have had intelligent debates, offered different suggestions, discussed past interviews and current news, and so forth.

Trouble doesn't start until those who enjoy the film come into this thread, get defensive, and start trying to change peoples minds. Maybe if they went about their support in a different way and weren't confrontational then maybe things would be different, you know?

When push comes to shove this thread is and was made for those who didn't like the film. So I believe it should be kept that way. Let those who enjoy the film have their thread and let us have our thread.

 

[Loganbabe]

I always remember the seeing that the first night, and the audience seemed a little shocked that he was actually killing those soldiers. Even a friend at work, who was a fan of the comics, mentioned being pretty surprised at how intense that sequence was.

The entire "school sequence" was intense from the very beginning, with Logan killing the soldier in the kitchen and putting poor Bobby in a state of shock!
It was a great Wolverine sequence because it showed how he could be violent and a bit crazy and worried with the kids at the same time.

I loved the cage match scene in X1 (and not just for the obvious reasons )...he looked downright feral by the end of that fight. He didn't seem like that same character in X3...which is why I'm glad the spinoff is going to be a prequel. I want to see more of that character.

Couldn´t agree more, about the cage scene and X3´s Logan as well...

I'd laugh my ass off if you Wolverine fanatics got stuck with Ratner as a director. If that were to happen I'd cherish the whining, crying, and fear that the Hugh Jackman fanatics would be displaying. But then again, neither of which are familiar with the comics, so it's not like you'd care anyways.

What are you, a 10 year-old?
"The movie will flop, HAHA!" "Wolverine fans will cry and I´ll laugh HAHA!" "You don´t read the comics, you don´t read the comics, nanananana..."
And you insist you´re the one offering "intelligent debates" here, while Wolverine fans need to be "educated"...

 

[gambitfire]

this forum will be boring if the people that like the movie don't post in here.....its what keeps this forum interesting...........I'm not picking side or nothing.....just saying

That's not necessarily true.

Although I don't mind if people who like the film post on here as long as they offer good points, decent debates, and accept that perhaps we have a good reasoning (although we don't always) even though they still disagree with it.

There are a good amount of posters on here who i feel have done so, right now Danoyse and Nell are the closest thing that come to mind.

Although Nell did have his downs. t:

 

[danoyse]

There are a good amount of posters on here who i feel have done so, right now Danoyse and Nell are the closest thing that come to mind.

Aw shucks, thanks gambit. t:

I think it's a decent debate, and there have been interesting points on both sides of the argument. I wouldn't want to try anyone's mind, just as much as I wouldn't want anyone to change my mind on the movie.

It's just a discussion.

 

[danoyse]

The entire "school sequence" was intense from the very beginning, with Logan killing the soldier in the kitchen and putting poor Bobby in a state of shock!
It was a great Wolverine sequence because it showed how he could be violent and a bit crazy and worried with the kids at the same time.

Exactly. The forest scene in X3 didn't even come close to the intensity of the school raid in X2...it just seemed like rehash of what had already been done, without nearly as much of a purpose (not to mention his shirt magically healing by the next scene ). They were just random bad guys.

 

[gambitfire]

Aw shucks, thanks gambit. t:

I think it's a decent debate, and there have been interesting points on both sides of the argument. I wouldn't want to try anyone's mind, just as much as I wouldn't want anyone to change my mind on the movie.

It's just a discussion.

I know we have had our difference, but thank you for not pushing your opinion on others and respecting their different views.
:heart: t:

I have to admit our side of can be pretty insane, one of the worst posters left long long long ago thankfully.

 

[LadyVader]

What are you talking about. I'm still here.

 

[Loganbabe]

Exactly. The forest scene in X3 didn't even come close to the intensity of the school raid in X2...it just seemed like rehash of what had already been done, without nearly as much of a purpose (not to mention his shirt magically healing by the next scene ). They were just random bad guys.

The shirt "healing", and also the claws coming out with Logan wearing a jacket, and the very next scene he´s "jacketless"...
They wanted to make a "Wolverine kicking butt" scene but it just came out of the blue...one of the greatest problems in X3 was the lack of a connection between the scenes. Logan left and suddenly he was in a forest (without his bag) being attacked by some random bad guys.
Since the first moment I found out that the movie was going to have a little more than 1:30h, I felt that editing would suffer. And I still believe that the worst mistake was making the movie so short.

 

[gambitfire]

What are you talking about. I'm still here.

You shouldn't be here though, don't you know everyone is after a piece of LV!

t:

 

[LadyVader]

Tis true. I'm a big tease.

 

[X-Maniac]

I know we have had our difference, but thank you for not pushing your opinion on others and respecting their different views.
:heart: t:

I have to admit our side of can be pretty insane, one of the worst posters left long long long ago thankfully.

I hope I'm not perceived as a nightmare

I know people were disappointed. Some of the things said I can understand, some of them don't seem realistic or valid. I enjoy a good debate, that's why I'm here. I'm not trying to 'convert' anyone, you're all too far gone for that!
Similar to and fro arguments seems to happen in the SR forums, some great points have been raised. I was disappointed with some of the movie, not all of it; and I've been disappointed with parts of the movies since the beginning (not with Goddessreicho's intensity, but I can sure see where she is coming from).

It is just a movie, and as some of you are seeing from Ghost Rider, it's difficult to please everyone with comicbook adaptations. You have to understand what they were trying to do, not want every movie to be as serious as Saving Private Ryan or Schindler's List. MSJ obviously makes movies the way he makes Daredevil and Ghost Rider - that's his style.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

The shirt "healing", and also the claws coming out with Logan wearing a jacket, and the very next scene he´s "jacketless"...

Sorry, I know I said I wasn't going to post in this thread anymore, but I just had to correct this.

Penn, or Kinberg, don't remember which (I think Penn) mentioned the same thing about the jacket on the commentary... I found it funny, that if they are going to point out editing errors on the commentary track, that they actually talk about something that's an editing error.

He never has a jacket. The thing on his wrist, that you see when his claws are coming out, is actually his wristband or his watch. You can clearly see the wristband later in the scene when he's running, and pulling the spike out of his shoulder.

So yea, that's not a sleeve, he was never wearing a jacket in that scene. Not until he grabbed the one to blend into the crowd that is.

 

[AssMan]

Typical Nell posting here after he made his little thread Everybody go post in Nells thread asap

 

[Morg]

Typical Nell posting here after he made his little thread Everybody go post in Nells thread asap

No you won't, I'll hand out bannings and close this thread for good if I see any more personal bashing again.

 

[AssMan]

Edit - Its not worth it

 

[Morg]

Consider I closed Nell's thread, yes I can keep them out and you assman better knock it off, you have a long list of complaints againt you. So yes us mods do have a certain 'vendetta' against users we know that have caused trouble

 

[X-Maniac]

Yes, Assman, most people do come back. Except for AlmightyPejo, a forum member who was a Phoenix fanatic (i think he had his own Phoenix website). He was discussing way before the movie how it might be great if we saw Xavier revealed as responsible for holding back Jean’s powers - most people thought it was a great idea for surprise, conflict and dramatic tension. Then the movie came out and the same people suddenly didn’t like the idea. Then the same people who gave high scores and good verdicts on the movie suddenly started bashing. Ficklensss and hypocrisy are never very attractive. So he left!

 

[Theweepeople]

No you won't, I'll hand out bannings and close this thread for good if I see any more personal bashing again.

I have no problem with annoying people getting banned but, closing this thread. What will that accomplish? Why even consider it when another "If you don't like the movie post here thread" would be started almost immediately. Furthermore assman is right about the mods being unfair towards the freedoms of opinions of those who hate X3 in the past. I don't remember Nell, the guard, or X-Maniac ever getting banned after posting some of most hateful commentaries towards me and others with similar opinions.

The mods also had no problem when the lovers started a thread called the "If you like the movie post here" which was clearly made just to tick the haters off. However, there are a number of times when I started threads that were in direct opposition towards the viewpoints of X3 lovers and the mods closed those threads in a heartbeat. That's blatantly unfair.

 

[britrogue]

I wonder what his website address was?

 

[Theweepeople]

I apologize to the mods about being unfair. They just closed Nell's thread because of the inflamatory title he used to tick the X3 haters off.t:

 

[gambitfire]

I hope I'm not perceived as a nightmare

I know people were disappointed. Some of the things said I can understand, some of them don't seem realistic or valid. I enjoy a good debate, that's why I'm here. I'm not trying to 'convert' anyone, you're all too far gone for that!
Similar to and fro arguments seems to happen in the SR forums, some great points have been raised. I was disappointed with some of the movie, not all of it; and I've been disappointed with parts of the movies since the beginning (not with Goddessreicho's intensity, but I can sure see where she is coming from).

It is just a movie, and as some of you are seeing from Ghost Rider, it's difficult to please everyone with comicbook adaptations. You have to understand what they were trying to do, not want every movie to be as serious as Saving Private Ryan or Schindler's List. MSJ obviously makes movies the way he makes Daredevil and Ghost Rider - that's his style.

I suppose you're not.

But there have been a time or two when you pushed a little too much.

I've probably done so too so who am i to judge?

 

[Theweepeople]

Yes, Assman, most people do come back. Except for AlmightyPejo, a forum member who was a Phoenix fanatic (i think he had his own Phoenix website). He was discussing way before the movie how it might be great if we saw Xavier revealed as responsible for holding back Jean’s powers - most people thought it was a great idea for surprise, conflict and dramatic tension. Then the movie came out and the same people suddenly didn’t like the idea. Then the same people who gave high scores and good verdicts on the movie suddenly started bashing. Ficklensss and hypocrisy are never very attractive. So he left!

I have no problem with people most people coming back. I have mixed feelings about Nell. I still have him on ignore list so I don't know what he is saying about me and other haters but, I doubt it is anything positive. He is probably spreading rumours about why he forced to leave this thread because he was not allowed to express any positive viewpoints about X3 without getting bashed. This was not the case. In fact I supported Nell's freedom to express his opinion until a few weeks ago when he completely lost his mind and started bashing everyone who hates X3. Just go back and read his last posts in January and you'll see what I'm talking about.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I just found it amusing that Nell created a thread about me.

Makes me feel very important.

The more I think about it, the more I realize that I wouldn't have a problem with the film if it was just the Cure storyline. Had it just been the cure? I would've been opened to the idea and probably would've enjoyed it.

But since they combined two storylines, one of which is considered to be an X-Men masterpiece I simply cannot let that go because some fans are happy with the bare minimum. I will not silence my voice when they cure Rogue, kill off Cyclops, cure Mystique, and make Logan into a leader who is interested in carrying on Xaviers dream.

Comic book fans damn well know Logan was never about carrying on Xaviers dream. Those who supposedly "know" the comics damn well know that Logan and Jean are not true love. Do I agree with Singers way of putting Logan front and center? I guess it was SOMEWHAT forgiveable in X1/X2, as both films were very faithful to the character, but for X3 to be Logan's film again and to have him take over Cyclops role? I have every right to speak against that stupidity and if others don't like it then that's them.

X3 could've revolved solely around the Gifted storyline. That way the writers could've written Cyclops considering leaving the team temporarily after Jean's death(which is what happened in the comics), that way it wouldn't have been such a horrible deviation from the actual source material.

In closing, I like to respond to Nell's false accusation of me. When I said I enjoy talking with those who agree with me, I simply meant that it's nice to discuss, listen, and offer different suggestions with those who feel the same way as I do without being confronted or attacked. It's nice to be able to have a forum of discussion with intelligent newbies and veteran posters here.

That's my view and I'm sticking to it. Just because Ntcrawler, Flavio, La She Beast, Cino, Wee, and myself agree that we hate/dislike the film doesn't mean we agree on EVERYTHING about our disappointment of it.

 

[danoyse]

Since the first moment I found out that the movie was going to have a little more than 1:30h, I felt that editing would suffer. And I still believe that the worst mistake was making the movie so short.

Exactly...I remember the other scene, when Angel escapes from the lab asks his dad if they can talk about it, and his dad says "We've talked about it, son." Well hello? Can we have maybe been a part of that?

The cure storyline is a great idea...but they tossed it together so randomly in such a short time and there was no room to explore it. There were too many random moments in the movie without anything driving it.