DarKush said:
I never brought Ock attacking Peter Parker to get at MJ in the coffee house, but then returning to the side of the angels when Spider-Man pulls off his mask to reveal that he is Peter Parker. Why the sudden change?
I thought that was made pretty obvious.He overcame the influence of the A.I. in the tentacles.That's what the sudden change was.Peter made him see the error of his ways by using the very words Octavius and Aunt May used on him.
Under the influence of the A.I. he was willing to do ANYTHING to get what he wanted.Including attacking Peter,MJ,Aunt May,Harry, and stupid citizens dumb enough to try and stand up to him.
Btw he didn't attack Peter to get at MJ.He went to Peter to make him find Spider-Man for him,and took MJ as insurance to make sure he'd do it,and that Spider-Man would show up.Simple as that.
And Ock didn't have the long standing relationship that Osborne did with Peter
Long standing relationship?? Peter spent at least 2 hours chatting with Octavius,while he met Norman for like a minute at the school trip,again at the graduation and then briefly in Peter and Harry's apartment for the thanksgiving meal.
This is a long standing relationship?? What exactly did they do together that made them have a relationship?? They weren't even on a first name basis.
Spidey 2 didn't do enough to build up this mentor/student thing so that it would make sense for Peter to be the one to bring Ock back to his senses.
Peter used the working for the good of mankind schtick on Octavius,the very thing Octavius said to Peter when they met.
What's your problem with that??
And I still don't understand how dousing the sun in the Hudson River was supposed to extinguish it.
You never heard of water extinguishing flame??
For the record,I don't like Raimi's changes to Octavius.He was more like Curt Connors than Ock.Raimi just has this thing about making the villains sympathetic and relatable to Peter.