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Yay transformers. Whoever wrote that must be a fan. I wish FF2 wasn't on the list and TMNT was further up it but whatever at least its no there.CConn said:I find it sorta odd Transformers is beating TDK.
But I'll take my fanboy hat off for the evening, and not complain.![]()
Well it had many comic books so I guess there going to count it.E-Mack said:Didn't know Transformers was considered a comic book franchise?
I agree with the list, besides the fact that TDK is number 3 of course. I'm pretty sure almost all the die-hard fanboys hate Michael Bay for directing this.![]()
Yeah, that confuses me too. But what really bothers me is that neither Sin City 2 or Hellboy 2 is on the list at all.CConn said:I find it sorta odd Transformers is beating TDK.![]()
-Batman is a troubled boy inside a man's body going around the city dressed like a flying rodentRobin91939 said:I find it odd that TRANSFORMERS is in the top 10, let alone the top 5.
I don't get the appeal, its a movie about talking fighting robots that "transform" from firetrucks and planes??? It was a KIDS cartoon, and Michael Bay is trying to do it seriously? At least TNMT is taking itself as seriously as it deserves. Can tell a cool story, with edgy effects and humor, because it's a movie about NINJA TURTLES!!! Bay is trying to be serious about giant talking ROBOTS!
The only thing we know for sure that is going ahead, is Sin City 2. Hulk and Superman are in talks for a sequel, but it's nothing official.How does this list leave off THE INCREDIBLE HULK, SUPERMAN 2, and SIN CITY 2? All have been announced, and I am going to wager most people are waiting more for these three than say, GHOST RIDER.
How does this list leave off THE INCREDIBLE HULK, SUPERMAN 2, and SIN CITY 2?
this list does not include films like the Superman Returns sequel because it's really just speculation at this point. We're strictly counting down flicks that are already in production or some stage of legitimate development.
I have a feeling this will stink on ice, a AVP kind of stink.2. Transformers
A Michael Bay movie about giant robots fighting each other in the streets of America. That alone would be enough to drive most filmgoers to multiplexes on July 4, 2007 but the fact that this movie is based on a decades-old and hugely successful toy, cartoon and comic book franchise makes Transformers one of next summer's "can't miss" event movies. The casting of cartoon vet Peter Cullen as the voice of Optimus Prime only further whetted fans appetites for this movie.
HULK has been greenlit, has a director, title, villain and script. SIN CITY 2 has been greenlit. As far as SUPERMAN 2, it has been announced and a target date has been set, all worthy of anticipation.E-Mack said:-Batman is a troubled boy inside a man's body going around the city dressed like a flying rodent
-Superman is a grown man flying in bright red and blue tights
-Xmen are social misfits that do nothing but hide from the public and saving their asses at the same time
I could go on and on, but I'm sure you get the point. You can take anything, dumb it down, and make it seem like something stupid. I'm not defending Bay or anything, but what matters is the execution in the story. You can take the dumbest plot, but turn it into a masterpiece if you're skilled.
The only thing we know for sure that is going ahead, is Sin City 2. Hulk and Superman are in talks for a sequel, but it's nothing official.
Understandibly so.Poetic Chaos said:Huge, transforming robots at war isn't very common in Hollywood.
My mistake on Hulk 2. I forgot about the Comic-Con news. Superman 2 however, has NOT been announced. You may be mistaken because Singer mentioned he was planning to release it in 2009...IF WB gives the go ahead. But as he answered at the Comic Con panel, nothing is set in stone on that.Robin91939 said:HULK has been greenlit, has a director, title, villain and script. SIN CITY 2 has been greenlit. As far as SUPERMAN 2, it has been announced and a target date has been set, all worthy of anticipation.
It obviously wouldn't sit well with you since well...you don't like TF. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean others have to share that notion.So my argument isn't there, it's just that the whole idea of giant talking robots seems outright silly to me, and I can't understand the appeal that would bring it to be the NUMBER 2 most anticipated film on that list.
Ok, so Bats, Supes, SM, Xmen, etc. have all been marketed towards teenagers and up. Fine.As far as Batman, Spider-man, and X-men they have all been marketed to teenagers and up...for almost 30 years for Batman, and all of the other respected franchises life times.
Sure there have been cartoons for kids and teens, but the roots of the characters, the comics, have always been much more mature.
Transformers never had that. The shows and toys were ALWAYS marketed towards kids...I grew up during the middle and end of the "serious Transformers era"- I didn't understand it then, and I still don't.
No argument there.Poetic Chaos said:And a live-action Transformers has never been done. That alone gives it more potential than any movie on the list. Visually, there's even a good chance it'll be as awing as Spider-Man 3. Huge, transforming robots at war isn't very common in Hollywood. The anticipation is understandable.
Not particulary.E-Mack said:TF was released, when? 80s? So what does that make their hardcore fans now.....late 20s-early 30s? Bam. There goes your adult audience. And kids? Well you already took care of that part for me. Talking robots duking it out is sure to be an appeal. So we have kids? Check. Teens? Check. Adults? Check. Hmm, seems like the playing field has been evened out.![]()
That's....great. You seem to be mixing up FADS with CULTURAL ICONS. The difference between the likes of Pokemon and Ghostbusters, with Superman and Transformers, is that the latter has staying power.Robin91939 said:Not particulary.
What do most kids do when they, um, grow up? Anyone? Anyone?
They grow up. So I'm gonna guess that a lot of the kids from the 80s who wore their Transfomer pajamas to bed, watched the Seavers on GROWING PAINS, while they hugged their stuffed Carebear and pretended not to like Strawberry Shortcake, and read TIGERBEAT- don't do that anymore.
How do you explain the fans that were there from the beginning? I'm talking about Batman/Superman from the 40s-60s, Spider-Man in the 60s-70s. Periods where it was ALL made for KIDS. Some probably got over it, but the hardcore fans stayed, no matter what age they were. Hell, I know someone's grandpa who is STILL a Batman fan. And he read the comics as a kid when it first got issued in '39.All of these shows got real popular (again, or for the first time) by the time I was 10. I dug them all. HOWEVER, it was the ones that were specifically marketed the whole time TOWARDS teenagers/adults, that allowed me to grow with them (Batman, Superman, Spider-man).
All you need to do is take a quick look at any forums relating to TF to see how that comment is completely off-base.They might see it or take kids for the nestogia, but most will pass or wait 'till DVD rentals.
It's late, so I'm just going to focus on one of your asinine statements.E-Mack said:That's....great. You seem to be mixing up FADS with CULTURAL ICONS. The difference between the likes of Pokemon and Ghostbusters, with Superman and Transformers, is that the latter has staying power.
I'm sure there are still Pokemon and Ghostbusters fans out there, but it's a very small minority. However, compare that to the amount of Superman and TF fans, it's quite staggering. It's leveled off here and there, but the core fanbase is in tact. Just look at how long each of them has lasted from their origins, and you'll see the point.
You see though, Batman CAN be broken down to something that simple, but it can also be fleshed out and made complex. The presentation of Transformers that you just stated, is about as COMPLEX as it gets for that movie.Poetic Chaos said:I'm not getting this argument. If you laid the basic synopsis for the movies side by side it would be:
1) bat-themed vigilante vs. killer clown
2) Transforming robot war on earth
I'd say the latter easily has more to work with in terms of entertainment potential. It just makes sense to me that way.