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This is a continuation thread, the old thread is [split]326065[/split]
A combination of traditional Jujutsu with KFM, Kali, Sambo, and Wing Chun would make a killer style for Batman.
However, I don't see Wing Chun doing much damage to someone like Bane.
Just don't do so many quick cuts and have the camera zoomed out. It's hard to have a clear picture, especially when you know there's a fight, but everything is zoomed in super close.
You could see everything in TDK just fine. And they're not changing Batman's martial arts in the 3rd film. It's Keyshi.
I hope not, because Keysi alone isn't going to work on Bane. Batman is going to need more than just elbows, headbutts, hammerfists, etc. KFM is an animalistic martial art that mainly depends on brute force to take down an opponent. Now if you bring in an opponent like Bane who is the definition of brute force, Batman's style and technique is in trouble. Batman is the smaller and weaker opponent, he won't be able to overpower, or power through Bane's style.
Batman is going to need a completely new approach and strategy. And KFM does not offer that at all. The art itself is incomplete with its founders yet to be seen since 2009.
I don't think this changes the fact that they're still going with Keysi.
1.) Do you have confirmation that they will be using KFM again?
2.) If they do, then they haven't learned a damn thing from the previous films -- and have zero imagination when coming to fight scenes.
1.I have BB and TDK and Nolan's general approach to things which hasn't changed.
2.That's your opinion and it's fine (and I disagree completely). But if they "haven't learned a damn thing", it's because they probably don't believe anything's wrong with their choice of martial arts. So, there's nothing TO learn.
A combination of traditional Jujutsu with KFM, Kali, Sambo, and Wing Chun would make a killer style for Batman.
However, I don't see Wing Chun doing much damage to someone like Bane.
the bigger they are, the better it works...
it was developed for smaller people to defend from larger opponents
by a woman even(!)
and i won't bring it up again, since we all know we wont see it
with it being and art and all... and these fightscenes being the least artful part of the movies
1.I have BB and TDK and Nolan's general approach to things which hasn't changed.
2.That's your opinion and it's fine (and I disagree completely). But if they "haven't learned a damn thing", it's because they probably don't believe anything's wrong with their choice of martial arts. So, there's nothing TO learn.
1.) Well, that's just an assumption.
2.) (Assuming it's true) By staying with a half-finished system, yes, they haven't learned ANYTHING. Furthermore, I really cannot fathom why you disagree considering TDK had some of the most ridiculous hand-to-hand combat scenes I've seen in awhile. The fight choreographer, clearly, didn't what the hell he was doing.
1.Backed with evidence of how Nolan does things. People thought we'd be getting a new Batmobile.
2.Half-finished system is your opinion. Why I disagree is because I liked what I saw in TDK. What you've seen in a while is a matter of your personal taste, which apparently differs from mine. There glitches in the fights but I enjoyed them overall.
1.) Not really. I based the return of the Tumbler on what Lucius Fox said.
2.) No, that is definitely not an opinion. Keysi IS, in fact, a half finished system. There is no debate here. The founders left the art, and went back to teaching JKD in Spain. I would know, trust me. I took KFM in Valencia, Spain and I downloaded the entire video series for training. For instance, KFM only has 5-6 techniques when coming to grappling (full mount, side mount, guard, takedown defense, takedowns, etc). Nothing else has developed since.
Plus, KFM only has 9 skill groups with 4-5 techniques in each one. That to me is a one-dimensional art that is hollow.