Interview w/Rothman on lots of things inc FF2

[Theweepeople]

Not to say I don't trust Rothman, but I don't trust Rothman. They all said the same thing about Doom, and look how that turned out.

Rothman compared X3 to Return of the King and look how that turned out. I also, don't trust anything he says and I think Fantastic Four 2 will be a dissapointment like most of Fox's movies.

 

[lordofthenerds]

Rothman compared X3 to Return of the King and look how that turned out.

Yeah. Half the runtime and half the quality.

 

[TripleF]

Bah, all I read from that article is that this "is" simply a SS origin movie, and they are simply "using" the F4 to launch an SS movie.

Not too much good news in there as far as I'm concerned.

 

[zer00]

Reading into it a bit much. Oh what am I saying..a bit...alot.

Having to actually give screentime to a new character? Impossible!

SS(who is extremely important to the story...you all remember what that is) needs more development than the FF do simply becase their bigger arcs in a way were completed. Does that mean that they're just going to stand around and be background characters? No. Does it mean they can't have their own story? No. Their development like any actual person that can write a ****ing screenplay will do is give it through the happenings that delve into SS as a character.

Coincidental development I guess you could call it through the same story. That would of course converge.

I fail to see how all because there's a new character in a comic book movie automatically means no more time for the characters the movie is about.

And really. I'm sure there will be at the most 10 minutes given to Surfer's origin, if it's really in it that deeply. That's all it really needs for him to tell it even in small doses.

This is still a comic book movie. And if one issue of a comic can introduce a new character and still give plenty of time to the main character(s) a...hopefully 2 hour movie can do the same.

So don't get all bent out of shape and huffy about it. It's like in TDK. No one expects Bruce Wayne to still have a huge story to tell. He'll have some sort of soul journey of course. That's probably somehow tied to the plot(Stax at IGN came up with an interesting idea about this). But it's still a Batman movie and he'll get the most screentime. Harven Dent is in it. Is it suddenly a Harven Dent movie because he'll need probably more development than Bruce? Not in the least. His will come through the actions that go on.

Now that is a long winded post if I do say so myself. So hell if I know if my point even got across.

 

[TripleF]

Wow, you seemed to have done the same. Sorry didn't read all of that.

 

[zer00]

pardon? I couldn't hear you over the street noise.

 

[TripleF]

pardon? I couldn't hear you over the street noise.

LMAO, you're just weird man, I like that.

 

[Fantastic-Boy]

Teaser on the next year!

 

[HoratioRome]

all I can say is finally, some good news.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

I still say the movie will be a huge dissapointment, just like the first one.
You guys are just kidding yourselfs...

And no, that has nothing to do with trolling, but common sense.
Do you really expect for this to go from Fantastic Four to Batman Begins (using a movie that everyone loves)?
Because it will not, not even close.
And when the theme of the movie is, basically, Armageddon, any less than a very serious movie is just stupid.

What do i expect from FF2?
More of the same, live action saturday morning cartoon all over again.

 

[Malus]

You guys are just kidding yourselfs...
Do you really expect for this to go from Fantastic Four to Batman Begins (using a movie that everyone loves)?

Well, I never expected to go from 1989's Batman to 1997's Batman & Robin. (Using a movie that "everyone" hates. )
And I didn't expect to go from 1979's competent Star Trek:The Motion Picture to 1982's brilliant Wrath of Khan.

Studios produce both good and bad films all the time.

And when the theme of the movie is, basically, Armageddon, any less than a very serious movie is just stupid.

There are plenty of light moments to be found in FF #48-50 (The so-called "Galactus Trilogy") just as there were light moments in every issue of the FF. The comic was a fun adventure with moments of seriousness.

And I think that's something that a lot of non-FF-reading superhero fans just don't understand. And in my three decades in fandom, I've found it's like trying to explain the sublime experience of M*A*S*H* to a hardcore Full House fan. At any rate, I don't think this material should be approached with the seriousness of Batman Begins. In my opinion, that would be stupid.

I think FF1 was severely half-baked, but I see no reason to assume the same studio can't produce a better sequel.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

You guys are just kidding yourselfs...


Do you really expect for this to go from Fantastic Four to Batman Begins (using a movie that everyone loves)?

Are you sure you posted this on the correct thread? I didn't see any posts that suggested anything like that.

 

[zer00]

I still say the movie will be a huge dissapointment, just like the first one.
You guys are just kidding yourselfs...

And no, that has nothing to do with trolling, but common sense.
Do you really expect for this to go from Fantastic Four to Batman Begins (using a movie that everyone loves)?
Because it will not, not even close.
And when the theme of the movie is, basically, Armageddon, any less than a very serious movie is just stupid.

What do i expect from FF2?
More of the same, live action saturday morning cartoon all over again.

You should really stop posting. You make yourself look like a bigger idiot everytime.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Wow Zeroo we agree on something.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

You should really stop posting. You make yourself look like a bigger idiot everytime.

I can´t compete with a smart man like you and your genious comebacks.
I wish my kids grow up to be like you, your my hero!
You go and show your smarts to the world, for humanity will find salvation in you....

Now, for real, are you so mentally weak, that you have to play defensive and resort to posts like that?
And my post was not meant for anyone, just saying that you guys are expecting too much from the movie.
I honestly pity you!

 

[gerbstat]

You should really stop posting. You make yourself look like a bigger idiot everytime.

Hmmm...but will he get big enough to play Galactus?

 

[Dynasty]

You should really stop posting. You make yourself look like a bigger idiot everytime.

Isildur´s Heir Your post was pretty dumb, it's all a matter of opinion, i personaly enjoyed FF way more than Batman Begins, which to me is becoming the most overrated movie of all time.

 

[Advanced Dark]

BB was a better film than FF in every way that I could see however it's also been up on the screen 6 times for the studios to figure out exactly what the audiences wanted and didn't want. FF was a difficult and risky project. It's not a normal superhero film...it's heavy in comedy and it's got a certain amount of cheese which makes it great. The studio played it safe the 1st time around but it sounds like this one is gonna be all out.

 

[Dynasty]

"it's heavy in comedy and it's got a certain amount of cheese which makes it great. The studio played it safe the 1st time around but it sounds like this one is gonna be all out."

nicely said

 

[zer00]

I can´t compete with a smart man like you and your genious comebacks.
I wish my kids grow up to be like you, your my hero!
You go and show your smarts to the world, for humanity will find salvation in you....

Now, for real, are you so mentally weak, that you have to play defensive and resort to posts like that?
And my post was not meant for anyone, just saying that you guys are expecting too much from the movie.
I honestly pity you!

=))=))

aren't you just precious

 

[Retroman]

LOL Bill Nighy is in everything else ever made so why not FF2? Seriously though, thats the kind of look I really like. I really think that the fact that he isn't really noticably pink is a good thing as well. He seems a bit darker.

Agreed and it would funny while we're here casually talking about Nighy that they actually cast him.t:

 

[zer00]

Nighy actually gained super powers due to radiation.

He doesn't use them because well

Nighy>Super powers.

 

[Retroman]

Lolt:

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

the reason why i hate rothman, is that he is the perfect embodyment of clueless studio exec

i was about to get into a rant about him, and remembered that i already did in the past t:

and i had no idea that they're making the hills have eyes 2. that is testament alone to his "vision" (plus AvP2 )

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

Isildur´s Heir Your post was pretty dumb, it's all a matter of opinion, i personaly enjoyed FF way more than Batman Begins, which to me is becoming the most overrated movie of all time.

I totally agree that Batman Begins is extremely overrated, even if a good movie, is not the perfect one that many say it is.
And i was not comparing FF to BB as movies but in tone.
One is very serious, and the other, with the theme of armageddon, should be too.

Well, I never expected to go from 1989's Batman to 1997's Batman & Robin. (Using a movie that "everyone" hates. )
And I didn't expect to go from 1979's competent Star Trek:The Motion Picture to 1982's brilliant Wrath of Khan.

But that´s not comparable...
Batman and Batman & Robin are movies from diferent directors, and after Batman Returns, WB wanted to make a movie based on Batman´s tv show.
As for ST: TMP and Wrath of Khan, not comparing the too in the quality department, but, the tone is basically the same.
No Star Trek movie makes that great departure for tone from one movie to the other.

There are plenty of light moments to be found in FF #48-50 (The so-called "Galactus Trilogy") just as there were light moments in every issue of the FF. The comic was a fun adventure with moments of seriousness.
And I think that's something that a lot of non-FF-reading superhero fans just don't understand. And in my three decades in fandom, I've found it's like trying to explain the sublime experience of M*A*S*H* to a hardcore Full House fan. At any rate, I don't think this material should be approached with the seriousness of Batman Begins. In my opinion, that would be stupid.

I´m not sayin that there shouldn´t be light moments in FF2, and i´ve read plenty of FF comic books in my past (for 20 years or so).
And i´m not saying that it should have the serious tone of Batman Begins, but the thing is, many comic book readers can´t see past what is in front of them (i´m not saying you or anyone), they don´t know how to read between the lines.
FF is much more serious than people give it credit for, and people seem to miss that....all comic books are, you just have to find the seriousness of it all.
And then we are talking about a movie about Armageddon, that subject can´t be taken lightly or it just becames stupid.