Invisible Woman vs. Wolverine

[Trask]

The problem isn't really that Sue can make a force field and stop Wolverine from stabbing her to death. Wolvie's big problem against Sue is Sue's versatility. Forcefield in the lungs to knock him out, turn his optic nerves invisible making him blind, heck she can decapitate him or just bisect his brain with her power. Wolvie really has no counter against the Invisible Woman.

1) Turning his optic nerves invisible is the same us turning herself invisible. And with Wolverine that would be very effective since his other sences are just too effective and she would be volunerable without her forcefield (which I belive she can not use while she is using her invisibility powers).

2) As I said if the new sword can cut through her forcefield as easily as it can cut through anything else then she is dead. Even if she creates a forcefield in his lungs he still has enough time to throw his sword and impale her. She would probably bring up a forcefield around herself instictively, which would not help her but would mean that she would have to release the forcefield in his lungs.

3) Technically she can not decapitate him, since I have never seen her use her forcefield powers used to cut through anything let alone ademantium. As for her messing with his brains, it is a matter of who is faster, her with her powers or him throwing his sword. He will survive her messing with his brain, she will not survive being impaled with his sword, so he still has the upper hand.

Dont get me wrong, I am not a Wolverine fan (not a huge one anyway), but as I see it if this new sword of his can cut through Sue's field then the odds are much more in his favor than hers, because her forcefield is her one huge advantage against him.

 

[gildea]

she was invisible as he fell to the floor

 

[BrianWilly]

I dont read a lot of FF, but I was under the impression that Sue could only create one bubble field at a time, regardless of size or power of the field.

No, she can create as many bubbles as she can keep track of. Why would she be limited to one?

1) Turning his optic nerves invisible is the same us turning herself invisible. And with Wolverine that would be very effective since his other sences are just too effective and she would be volunerable without her forcefield (which I belive she can not use while she is using her invisibility powers).

Turning his optic nerves invisible makes him unable to see anything at all, not just her. Much more effective.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you have a very good impression of Sue's powers...she can turn herself and other people invisible and throw force fields around simultaneously; she does this all the time. She doesn't have to be visible to use her force fields.

2) As I said if the new sword can cut through her forcefield as easily as it can cut through anything else then she is dead. Even if she creates a forcefield in his lungs he still has enough time to throw his sword and impale her. She would probably bring up a forcefield around herself instictively, which would not help her but would mean that she would have to release the forcefield in his lungs.

What if she binds his arms and legs with invisible force, making him unable to move at all, much less use the sword?? She's not exactly limited to just making bubbles, you know.

 

[Morg]

Mods taking turns on beating up on posters...can I watch?

Nope

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

1) Turning his optic nerves invisible is the same us turning herself invisible. And with Wolverine that would be very effective since his other sences are just too effective and she would be volunerable without her forcefield (which I belive she can not use while she is using her invisibility powers).

2) As I said if the new sword can cut through her forcefield as easily as it can cut through anything else then she is dead. Even if she creates a forcefield in his lungs he still has enough time to throw his sword and impale her. She would probably bring up a forcefield around herself instictively, which would not help her but would mean that she would have to release the forcefield in his lungs.

3) Technically she can not decapitate him, since I have never seen her use her forcefield powers used to cut through anything let alone ademantium. As for her messing with his brains, it is a matter of who is faster, her with her powers or him throwing his sword. He will survive her messing with his brain, she will not survive being impaled with his sword, so he still has the upper hand.

Dont get me wrong, I am not a Wolverine fan (not a huge one anyway), but as I see it if this new sword of his can cut through Sue's field then the odds are much more in his favor than hers, because her forcefield is her one huge advantage against him.

When the hell has a sword been able to cut through her force fields? She was able to defelect a mutli-megatonn gamma bomb at point blank range. I think her force fields can handle a sword.

Also have you ever had anything in your lungs? Yeah exactly.

 

[Zeu]

Wolverine loses this 100/100.

Honestly, there is absolutelly nothing he can do to harm Sue.
None whatsoever.
Sue, OTOH, has only ONE problem.

Which way to kill Wolverine.

In all honesty, this thread shouldn´t be about Logan´s chances of surviving the fight since he has none.

This thread should be called

"Describe Ways Sue could use to destroy Logan"
I´ll go first:

1) rotating forcefield in his brains to turn his brain mass into paté which can be extracted through his nose and ears..

2) Surround his abdomen and toraccic cavity by a forcefield, followed by a rapid movement downward and outward to remove all its content: lungs, heart, liver, stomach, pancreas, kidneys intestines and genitalia (ouch)

3) forcefield around the back of each claw to prevent it from retracting, plus a forcefield around each hand to seize control of both.
Now manipulate forcefileds forward and backward, upward and downward as if you were slicing ham. Repeat 200 times until Wolverine has sliced himself into pudding.

4)Again forcefield around each arm to prevent him from slashing anything:

4.1) option 1- lift Logan 5 kilometeres up in the air and let him fall to the ground. Whump! Grab mutant and do it again. Whump! And again. Whump! And again. Whump! Whump! Whump! Whump! Whump! Whump! Whump!

4.2) Surround Logan in a bubble. Now expand bubble until the air inside pressure drops considerably. Now let him suffocate. Grab Vogue magazine to keep self from boredon while waiting fro mutant to die.

4.3) force buble in the back of his neck to severe spinal medula

4.4) variation of 4.2 forcefield around his ankles. Drag mutant down. Bury mutant.

5) Force field around phalanges bones. Extract fingers. Forcefield arounf tibia bone. Extract said leg. Forcefield patela bone. Work way up. Forcefield around c4 vertebra. Extract another portion of the vertebra column.Work your way up til the skull bone, dismantling mutant bone by bone.

6)variation of 4.2. Surround mutant in force bubble. Contract bubble until air inside climbs up to 10,000 Pa or more. Now instantly expand forcefield, making inner pressure drop to 0,00000000001 Pa, instantly exploding mutant. If there´s still human tissue connected to the adamantium bones, repeat operation. Again. Again. Again. Again. Again.

Whew. Someone else pick up from here.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Wolverine loses this 100/100.

Honestly, there is absolutelly nothing he can do to harm Sue.
None whatsoever.
Sue, OTOH, has only ONE problem.

Which way to kill Wolverine.

In all honesty, this thread shouldn´t be about Logan´s chances of surviving the fight since he has none.

This thread should be called

"Describe Ways Sue could use to destroy Logan"
I´ll go first:

1) rotating forcefield in his brains to turn his brain mass into paté which can be extracted through his nose and ears..

2) Surround his abdomen and toraccic cavity by a forcefield, followed by a rapid movement downward and outward to remove all its content: lungs, heart, liver, stomach, pancreas, kidneys intestines and genitalia (ouch)

3) forcefield around the back of each claw to prevent it from retracting, plus a forcefield around each hand to seize control of both.
Now manipulate forcefileds forward and backward, upward and downward as if you were slicing ham. Repeat 200 times until Wolverine has sliced himself into pudding.

4)Again forcefield around each arm to prevent him from slashing anything:

4.1) option 1- lift Logan 5 kilometeres up in the air and let him fall to the ground. Whump! Grab mutant and do it again. Whump! And again. Whump! And again. Whump! Whump! Whump! Whump! Whump! Whump! Whump!

4.2) Surround Logan in a bubble. Now expand bubble until the air inside pressure drops considerably. Now let him suffocate. Grab Vogue magazine to keep self from boredon while waiting fro mutant to die.

4.3) force buble in the back of his neck to severe spinal medula

4.4) variation of 4.2 forcefield around his ankles. Drag mutant down. Bury mutant.

5) Force field around phalanges bones. Extract fingers. Forcefield arounf tibia bone. Extract said leg. Forcefield patela bone. Work way up. Forcefield around c4 vertebra. Extract another portion of the vertebra column.Work your way up til the skull bone, dismantling mutant bone by bone.

6)variation of 4.2. Surround mutant in force bubble. Contract bubble until air inside climbs up to 10,000 Pa or more. Now instantly expand forcefield, making inner pressure drop to 0,00000000001 Pa, instantly exploding mutant. If there´s still human tissue connected to the adamantium bones, repeat operation. Again. Again. Again. Again. Again.

Whew. Someone else pick up from here.

How about she can easily kill him? If she wanted she could just create an invisible disk right through his neck and cut off his bloody head. Yes Wolverine fan boys she could, his spinal colum, nor are any other joints fused together with Adamantium, they are only laced. There is a difference.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

When the hell has a sword been able to cut through her force fields? She was able to defelect a mutli-megatonn gamma bomb at point blank range. I think her force fields can handle a sword.

There are certain swords that can cut through almost anything--mostly magical ones. Dragonfang, the Ebony Blade, Excalibur, etc.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

There are certain swords that can cut through almost anything--mostly magical ones. Dragonfang, the Ebony Blade, Excalibur, etc.

I know that, but from what the chief I quoted was talking about he made it sound as if a simple Samurai sword Wolverine had could cut through her shield.

I don't remember the sword Logan had in that issue being magical in anyway. Did he even have one?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, I thought Wolverine'd gotten himself a magic sword. Which would be incredibly lame, in my opinion. He's got the claws, leave the sword gimmick to the Black Knight and Valkyrie and all those other poor, otherwise gimmick-less saps.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Oh, I thought Wolverine'd gotten himself a magic sword. Which would be incredibly lame, in my opinion. He's got the claws, leave the sword gimmick to the Black Knight and Valkyrie and all those other poor, otherwise gimmick-less saps.

No we were, well I was refering to Wolverine V. 3 issues 20 ish. The 6 parter when he

Spoiler

dies and becomes a servant of the hand, Elektra, breaks into the Baxter building etc.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I haven't read Wolverine's comics since the first few issues of Millar's arc. If he's gotten a sword and whether the sword is magical or not, I don't know.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I haven't read Wolverine's comics since the first few issues of Millar's arc. If he's gotten a sword and whether the sword is magical or not, I don't know.

No it's not.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, well then it shouldn't have a chance in hell of cutting through Sue's force fields. Problem solved.

 

[Trask]

Wolverine loses this 100/100.

Honestly, there is absolutelly nothing he can do to harm Sue.
None whatsoever.
Sue, OTOH, has only ONE problem.

Which way to kill Wolverine.

In all honesty, this thread shouldn´t be about Logan´s chances of surviving the fight since he has none.

This thread should be called

"Describe Ways Sue could use to destroy Logan"
I´ll go first:

1) rotating forcefield in his brains to turn his brain mass into paté which can be extracted through his nose and ears..

2) Surround his abdomen and toraccic cavity by a forcefield, followed by a rapid movement downward and outward to remove all its content: lungs, heart, liver, stomach, pancreas, kidneys intestines and genitalia (ouch)

3) forcefield around the back of each claw to prevent it from retracting, plus a forcefield around each hand to seize control of both.
Now manipulate forcefileds forward and backward, upward and downward as if you were slicing ham. Repeat 200 times until Wolverine has sliced himself into pudding.

4)Again forcefield around each arm to prevent him from slashing anything:

4.1) option 1- lift Logan 5 kilometeres up in the air and let him fall to the ground. Whump! Grab mutant and do it again. Whump! And again. Whump! And again. Whump! Whump! Whump! Whump! Whump! Whump! Whump!

4.2) Surround Logan in a bubble. Now expand bubble until the air inside pressure drops considerably. Now let him suffocate. Grab Vogue magazine to keep self from boredon while waiting fro mutant to die.

4.3) force buble in the back of his neck to severe spinal medula

4.4) variation of 4.2 forcefield around his ankles. Drag mutant down. Bury mutant.

5) Force field around phalanges bones. Extract fingers. Forcefield arounf tibia bone. Extract said leg. Forcefield patela bone. Work way up. Forcefield around c4 vertebra. Extract another portion of the vertebra column.Work your way up til the skull bone, dismantling mutant bone by bone.

6)variation of 4.2. Surround mutant in force bubble. Contract bubble until air inside climbs up to 10,000 Pa or more. Now instantly expand forcefield, making inner pressure drop to 0,00000000001 Pa, instantly exploding mutant. If there´s still human tissue connected to the adamantium bones, repeat operation. Again. Again. Again. Again. Again.

Whew. Someone else pick up from here.

1) We don't know the extenct of the power of the sword. It sliced clean through Adamantium at the "Molecular" level and the scientists dont know how it was even possible and since the sword has been described as a legandery ultimate weapon we can not assume that it would not slice through Sues forcefield (Especially knowing Marvel writters).

2) I dont know much about Sue's powers, but I have never seen her forcefield ever slice or materialise through anything. Everytime she has created a field it has always been around air or vacume not through any solid object (to my knowledge). So I dont see how most of the attack you have suggested could work.

3) And what would Logan be doing while she is doing all this to him?

4) As I have mentioned he would only win if this new sword of his can cut through her forcefield. Now I am not saying that it would definately cut through it, but the way they are writing it right now, it looks like a possibility. Heck the way it is written right now it could slice the Hulk in two.

5) It also depends on the manner of the fight. If they were both dropped into an island and told to kill each other then Wolverine would win most of the time (even with his claws only). If it is face to face fight it all comes back to how effective the sword is against her field.


P.S. I am not up to date on Sue's powers right now could someone clear up a few things for me please. I was under the impression that -

i) Sue can not use forcefield and invisibilty at the same time

ii) She could only create one forcefield bubble at a time

iii) She can not materialise her forcefield through solid items or use it to slice through solid items (I am not talking about using it to smash but slice).

n/m about points i & ii, someone has already answered them in privious posts.

 

[Varient]

1)


P.S. I am not up to date on Sue's powers right now could someone clear up a few things for me please. I was under the impression that -

i) Sue can not use forcefield and invisibilty at the same time

ii) She could only create one forcefield bubble at a time

iii) She can not materialise her forcefield through solid items or use it to slice through solid items (I am not talking about using it to smash but slice).

n/m about points i & ii, someone has already answered them in privious posts.

Back in the before time this was true.
Currently the invisible woman is limited by her imagination and level of concentration.

She can use invisibility and forcefields in various combinations simultaneously.
She can make the invisible visible, her only apparent limitation on the fields is BLUNT TRAUMA,... as in the fields are proof from piercing, heat, cold, radiation, friction, all five states of matter but you have to be able to impact large areas of a field with tons of force per sq inch to have a chance of getting through it.

Wolverine versus the invisible woman?

He'd only beat her in bed.

Peace.

 

[Zeu]

1) We don't know the extenct of the power of the sword. It sliced clean through Adamantium at the "Molecular" level and the scientists dont know how it was even possible and since the sword has been described as a legandery ultimate weapon we can not assume that it would not slice through Sues forcefield (Especially knowing Marvel writters).

2) I dont know much about Sue's powers, but I have never seen her forcefield ever slice or materialise through anything. Everytime she has created a field it has always been around air or vacume not through any solid object (to my knowledge). So I dont see how most of the attack you have suggested could work.

3) And what would Logan be doing while she is doing all this to him?

4) As I have mentioned he would only win if this new sword of his can cut through her forcefield. Now I am not saying that it would definately cut through it, but the way they are writing it right now, it looks like a possibility. Heck the way it is written right now it could slice the Hulk in two.

5) It also depends on the manner of the fight. If they were both dropped into an island and told to kill each other then Wolverine would win most of the time (even with his claws only). If it is face to face fight it all comes back to how effective the sword is against her field.


P.S. I am not up to date on Sue's powers right now could someone clear up a few things for me please. I was under the impression that -

i) Sue can not use forcefield and invisibilty at the same time

ii) She could only create one forcefield bubble at a time

iii) She can not materialise her forcefield through solid items or use it to slice through solid items (I am not talking about using it to smash but slice).

n/m about points i & ii, someone has already answered them in privious posts.

I would seriously advise you to study Invisible Woman´s acchievements before posting such enormities.

Wolverine´s chances in this fight are essentially zero.

Sue´s forcefields have withstood nuclear blasts.
She can raise or create them in the time it takes her to imagine them or think "bubble"
If she decides to grab and launch him 90 stories up in the sky, he has no choice but to be grabbed and launched 90 stories up in the sky.

The difference in power levels is so insane it´s not even a matter of Logan winning.
it´s a matter of him surviving.
And Logan´s survival in this combat (which would reallistically last 2 seconds, 1.99(9) of which would be the time Sue would take to decide among the dozens of possibilities at her disposal which tactic to use to destroy him) depend solely on Sue´s mercy.
Plain and simple.

Trust me, just give it up.
I´m not Sue´s greatest fan either but even I have to say that Logan´s chances here are about the same as Nightcrawler has of denting Iron Man´s armor with a punch:

Zero.

 

[Trask]

I would seriously advise you to study Invisible Woman´s acchievements before posting such enormities.

Wolverine´s chances in this fight are essentially zero.

Sue´s forcefields have withstood nuclear blasts.
She can raise or create them in the time it takes her to imagine them or think "bubble"
If she decides to grab and launch him 90 stories up in the sky, he has no choice but to be grabbed and launched 90 stories up in the sky.

The difference in power levels is so insane it´s not even a matter of Logan winning.
it´s a matter of him surviving.
And Logan´s survival in this combat (which would reallistically last 2 seconds, 1.99(9) of which would be the time Sue would take to decide among the dozens of possibilities at her disposal which tactic to use to destroy him) depend solely on Sue´s mercy.
Plain and simple.

Trust me, just give it up.
I´m not Sue´s greatest fan either but even I have to say that Logan´s chances here are about the same as Nightcrawler has of denting Iron Man´s armor with a punch:

Zero.

Come on read what I have said. I did say that he had a good chance of winning only "if" Logan's new sword could slice through her force field. So far all we know about his new sword is that it is an ancient weapon that is capable of slicing any material at a "Molecular" level. I dont think it matters how much stress something can stand if something can slice through it at a "Molecular" level.

Now I am not saying that I am 100% sure that the sword could cut through her forcefield but the way they are writing it right now it is a strong possibility.

Also 2 seconds is more that enough time for him to throw that sword of his at her. Now if the sword can not cut through her forcefield then he has little chance of winning a face to face confrontation.

P.S. no one has told me if she can create a forcefield in solid objects.

 

[Tropico]

5) It also depends on the manner of the fight. If they were both dropped into an island and told to kill each other then Wolverine would win most of the time (even with his claws only). If it is face to face fight it all comes back to how effective the sword is against her field.

Only in the aspect that Sue wouldn't go through with killing if she was on her right mind (Malice Sue is another story, though). For all other intents and purposes there's not much Logan can do to surprise her. All she has to do is clear a big enough area and sit pretty, that's all. Or get into a cave with only one entrance giving him only one way to attack her.

Regarding the sword...A sword isn't only it's edge, there's non-edged metal that can be grabbed and the handle is as good a target as any. If Wolverine is at a disadvantage against Sue with just her powers he's royally screwed if she turns the sword against him. Bye-bye adamantium advantage.

 

[Genesis 1.0]

As a Wolverine fan, I can safely say that he's got no chance in Hell of defeating Sue. Now given in Enemy of the State while with the Hand and teleportation technology he managed to escape her, but that's all he did. Escape. He pretty much ran through the others but Sue gave him the shakes and she barely had a chance to get started.

As to the blinding issue, Logan could still sense her through his other, well, senses but it doesn't do much good with the rest of her abilities at hand.

 

[Zeu]

I did say that he had a good chance of winning only "if" Logan's new sword could slice through her force field. So far all we know about his new sword is that it is an ancient weapon that is capable of slicing any material at a "Molecular" level. I dont think it matters how much stress something can stand if something can slice through it at a "Molecular" level.

Sue´s forcefields are not made of "matter" and they have no molecules to be sliced.

P.S. no one has told me if she can create a forcefield in solid objects.

 

[Trask]

Sue´s forcefields are not made of "matter" and they have no molecules to be sliced.

Then what are they made of? Anti-matter? I think you mean they are not made of molecules, and you are wrong about that. Almost everything in the universe is made of molecules and if her forcefield is solid then it is also made of molecules.

In science, a molecule is the smallest particle of a pure chemical substance that still retains its chemical composition and properties. A molecule consists of two or more atoms joined by shared pairs of electrons in a chemical bond. It may consist of atoms of the same chemical element, as with oxygen (O2), or of different elements, as with water (H2O).

I cant read what she is saying but it looks like she is creating a small bubble and then expanding it, not creating a field within a solid object (could be wrong).

Only in the aspect that Sue wouldn't go through with killing if she was on her right mind (Malice Sue is another story, though). For all other intents and purposes there's not much Logan can do to surprise her. All she has to do is clear a big enough area and sit pretty, that's all. Or get into a cave with only one entrance giving him only one way to attack her.

The only reason I said he would win in that situation is because he is in his element in the jungle and he could stalk her until she was tiered and let her gaurd down. It has nothing to do how powerful she or he is in that situation but who has the better experience. She could clear all the area she wanted or even find a cave in the end he will just wear her out. He is also capable of building traps and surviving in the wild, while she has little experience in that aspect.

Regarding the sword...A sword isn't only it's edge, there's non-edged metal that can be grabbed and the handle is as good a target as any. If Wolverine is at a disadvantage against Sue with just her powers he's royally screwed if she turns the sword against him. Bye-bye adamantium advantage.

I dont see how this would work. Of what I have seen of her in comics I have never seen her create a complex forcefield construct such as a hand. Besides her first reaction would be to throw a forcefield around herself rather than try to grab the sword since she could miss.

Just out of curioucity what are the limits of her power? Because if she is as powerful as you claim then she should be able to beat almost everyone (except telephats), even the HULK.

 

[Tropico]

The only reason I said he would win in that situation is because he is in his element in the jungle and he could stalk her until she was tiered and let her gaurd down. It has nothing to do how powerful she or he is in that situation but who has the better experience. She could clear all the area she wanted or even find a cave in the end he will just wear her out. He is also capable of building traps and surviving in the wild, while she has little experience in that aspect.

Sue isn't as dumb as to not even know the basics of survival; the FF have been stranded in alien environments for Pete's sake. She's not some airhead that hasn't learned anything. How will Wolverine tire her out when all she's doing is resting? She can walk the island with her forcefield on protecting her of traps. She can even make forcefields to carry water and stuff. There's very little pshychological impact since she know where she is and she know her and Wolverine's mission.



I dont see how this would work. Of what I have seen of her in comics I have never seen her create a complex forcefield construct such as a hand. Besides her first reaction would be to throw a forcefield around herself rather than try to grab the sword since she could miss.

You don't need to make a hand, a circular field which is solid around the hilt would be enough to grab it. You know, kinda like the ones she uses to bind people's hands togehter. The only way Sue would get impaled by the sword is if she makes a field tightly around herself instead of projecting the walls and dome like fields she mostly uses. Why? Because although the sword itself, or it's edge, would (in speculation) "cut" the energy field but the sword GUARD and HILT wouldn't. The aperture provided by the incision wouldn't be enough to provide passage to neither of those pieces that are in fact wider than the blade.

 

[Zeu]

Then what are they made of? Anti-matter? I think you mean they are not made of molecules, and you are wrong about that. Almost everything in the universe is made of molecules and if her forcefield is solid then it is also made of molecules.

Not everything in the universe is made of molecules.
Energy is not made of molecules.
Gravitational waves are not made out of molecules.
Cosmic rays are not made of molecules.

I cant read what she is saying but it looks like she is creating a small bubble and then expanding it, not creating a field within a solid object (could be wrong).

Fair enough.
And do you honestly think soft human flesh will have any chance at all against this tactic?

 

[BrianWilly]

Why exactly is there debating going on here as to whether or not she can make a forcefield inside Wolverine's lungs? The fact is that she did it, so obviously she can. It happened in canon. It's a completely reasonable use of her powers.

Trask, Sue is the single most powerful member of the Fantastic Four and one of the most powerful members of the Marvel universe. She once created multiple force field "claws" and pincers to attack Dr. Doom's eyes and to tear him apart from inside his mouth. Making hands or ropes or any other constructs to hold someone down is like child's play to her.
From the Marvel Database...

Powers
Known Powers: Susan's body was bombarded with Cosmic Rays. The Invisible Woman represents the element of Air.

Invisibility: Sue Richards possesses the psionic ability to manipulate ambient cosmic energy in order to bend light around her body without distortion, thus rendering herself wholly or partially invisible at will. She can also render other people or objects invisible, affecting up to forty thousand cubic feet of volume. She achieves these feats by mentally bending all wavelengths of light in the vicinity around herself or the target in question and she somehow does this without causing any visible distortion effects; she also somehow directs enough undistorted light to her eyes to retain her full range of vision while invisible. If an object or person has been made invisible through the use of a cloaking device, Susan is able to detect them, and even make them visible if she wishes. However, if the invisibility is part of a magical spell or by a telepath attempting to conceal something, she may not be able to detect it


Lygokinesis: Sue can also mentally generate a psionic field of invisible force apparently drawn from hyperspace, which she manipulates for a variety of effects. Most commonly, She generates near-indestructible invisible force fields around herself or other targets. She can vary the texture and tensile strength of her field to some extant, rendering it highly rigid or as soft and yielding as foam; softer variations on the field enable her to cushion impacts more gently, and are less likely to result in a psionic backlash against Sue herself. Sue can shape her psionic force fields into invisible constructs, usually simple shapes such as barriers, columns, cones, cylinders, darts, discs, domes, platforms, rams, ramps, slides and spheres. By generating additional force behind her psionic constructs, Sue can turn them into offensive weapons, ranging from massive invisible battering rams to small projectiles such as spheres and darts. She can generate solid force constructs as small as a marble or as large as 100 feet in diameter, and her hollow projections such as domes can extend up to several miles in area. By forming one of her force fields within an object and expanding the field, Susan can cause her target to explode. Susan can also travel atop animated constructs such as ramps, stairs, slides, columns and stepping discs, enabling her to simulate limited approximation of levitation or flight. She is capable of generating and manipulating multiple psionic force fields simultaneously.