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Discussion in 'Past Marvel Series' started by WBwins, Dec 6, 2014.
Just saw the post from above. My bad guys.
I'm just more annoyed they didn't even really try at all with Iron Fist. And just gave a mountain list of excuses.
My personal favorite:
"He has to earn it."
Not just them saying that, but some posters on here too. Always the typical excuse. What if he were given the costume as a gift? That's exactly the opposite of earning it. But no, "he has to earn it!"
Thank goodness T'Challa didn't have to earn it. His father only had to get blown up in Civil War
At the very end of Jessica Jones there was something about her earning it. I immediately thought that someone should toss her a costume to wear now.
Yep, the whole 'we'll hold 'X' back for season 3 or 4' annoys me. Yes, I get that we cant be given everything at once, but if Iron Fist teaches us anything its that you may not even get that season 3 or 4 - so find somewhere's in season 1 or 2 to introduce 'X', make the show the absolute best it can be and then be in the nice position to worry about what's going to feature in season 3 or 4.
Sadly, Iron Fist will always be remembered by me as a 'what would've/could've happened; if only' deal now. A massive missed opportunity for what should have been the coolest show around.
I was looking forward to Danny travelling with Ward as I felt that would lean towards one of the shows strengths, but it would have ticked me off had it just ended up being Randall's version of the suit. I think I've made it clear previously how I envision his suit being adapted and that ain't it.
A missed opportunity for what should've been one of the coolest films honestly.
Imagine this against Danny Rand.
Oh man, totally. If only.
Iron fist absolutely deserved to be a movie.
After the Far From Home post credit literal recast and Ali announced as Blade I think we can not dismiss the possibility of Feige picking and choosing in the future what to salvage from the Netflix series.
I can see Marvel Studios using D'Onofrio and Cox as Kingpin and DD without overtly referring to continuity while at the same time rebooting and recasting Iron Fist from scratch as a movie or a featured character in some other project.
I even liked the series enough and thought the actors did the best they could but, barring a proper continuation of the series, I'd prefer a new start.
Either thing seems currently unlikely but the Iron Fist never dies.
Honestly, if Marvel is not planning a full reboot, I would want Finn Jones to show up in Shang Chi as a wiser and more powerful Iron Fist.
No thanks. Finn Jones isn't suitable at all for Iron Fist, even wiser and more powerful. Recast this role.
While i'm not against a recast, I respectfully disagree with the notion that Finn Jones isn't suitable AT ALL for the role of Danny Rand. His portrayal in Luke Cage Season 2 was terrific and he pulled it off. Its just a matter of writing the character.
I would like a new Iron Fist, and that character is suited to film I think. It would be great if they knew who they wanted and somehow got him to appear in Shang Chi. If they ever do Daredevil and Electra in future all of these characters could appear in films together.
Given how good elements of the Netflix shows were I think this would be the best way forward. Move forward with the very best from the Netflix shows and dump what didn’t work as well.
Agree with this. I think Feige could pick Cox and D'Onofrio to star in movies. Are they the same DD and Kingpin that we saw in the series, or are they just new interations played by the same actors? They could leave that open ended. We can take it as we want to. We have the series to see their further adventures, but they don't have to actively reference those at all.
It would be like Judi Dench as M in Casino Royale. Is she the same M from the Brosnan movies? Probably not, considering in the Brosnan Bond films she looked down with scorn upon the Cold War, whereas in Casino Royale she wished the Cold War hadn't ended.
Mike Colter Describes His Initial Concern With Playing Luke Cage - MCUExchange
Mike Colter doesn't really seem like the right choice for the role given all his reservations about the character.
Did they want him so badly that even when he said "this is the way I'm going to play it - take it or leave it" they took it? It's not like he's such a great or in-demand actor.
Yeah. It's a shame he had such disdain for the material and a narrow view on the character.
Jeph Loeb to Mike Colter: "We want you for our show Luke Cage"
Colter: "Okay, well just so you know, I don't want him to wear a costume or anything yellow, do any kind of fighting or violence, say "sweet Christmas" or have any kind of comic connection. And no prison background, and I don't want to live in Harlem or even be named Luke Cage. I want this to be about Carl Lucas a family man with a wife and three kids who works for the LA fire department and has never been in trouble with the law and solves problems through peaceful interpersonal negotiation. Those are my terms. Take it or leave it!"
Loeb: "Well, we're a bit desperate here, so alright then, you've got yourself a deal!"
Lol. I don't think he's quite that woke just yet.
Probably wanted to avoid a PR nightmare considering the Netflix projects were just ramping up and they probably wanted to avoid a Howard/Cheadle debacle. My personal theory/conspiracy theory was his wife being a Netflix exec helped tip the odds in his favor for being cast in the first place.
Don't know why they gave him so much say on how the character should be portrayed though. You would think there would be at least some brand management.
I doubt they will if those characters ever resurface. If Feige wants them, he will likely want to put his own spin on them.
I mean in defense of Colter, he said Sweet Christmas multiple times. he did have a prison background, except he was wrongfully framed. he never had kids either, and he did fight a lot.
Also, he did wear a yellow shirt throughout his run.