Sequels Is Fox killing the X-Men

[Frankeh]

I would say no to Emilia Clarke as Polaris though. Her acting is too forced.

 

[x-er]

I'm actually really excited. I don't think Lawrence is coming back, which means there's probably new stuff ahead.

Her contract's done and, let's be honest, would you invest in Lawrence or some original cast members for an X-Men film? They're honestly about the same price, but Lawrence has not only expressed her lack of interest, her face wasn't really enough to carry Apocalypse through. I actually really like her though, but I think she should've owned the original Mystique role a bit more (or at least transitioned into it). Now seeing her in the scifi flick with the Guardians of the Galaxy guy makes me think she should go more into comedy a bit. She presents herself that way and it's pretty becoming.

 

[magneto23]

Remember the Hollywood Reporter article? That said: "Singer, who directed four X-Men movies, will not be returning, according to insiders, but the script is being written with Lawrence, Fassbender and McAvoy optimistically in mind."

No mention of the other characters. Makes it sound like more of that second fiddle for Jean, Storm, Scott, Nightcrawler, Jubilee. Whoopee. Let's get this party started.

And you wonder why frustration is growing even among the diehard X-Men fans. A Marvel reboot might be the only salvation for these key characters, i'm beginning to think.

I have to believe they have heard the complaints and know they can't keep doing what they are doing. They would just be asking for it if they have Magneto and Mystique back in any significant way. I dont think they are that stupid.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Say what you like but in many polls to favourite character I have seen for apoclaypse magneto was quite high so while we can make out people want magneto gone... That may not be the case as some of the more louder people would have you believe.

But saying that I am assuming the idea is to put more focus on cyclops, jean, quicksilver and Co but the FC cast are still gonna play important elder father or teacher figures and really there is no reason why they shouldn't be as things being fresh doesn't mean dumping the cast in the previous movies after all.

In the long run just wait and see, there is no point crying over spoilt milk before its even spilt.

 

[def28]

Quicksilver and Psylocke had the high numbers in this poll Followed by Jean and Nightcrawler.

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.co...calypse-character-are-you-most-excited-about/

Here at SHH I'd say Jean is the top choice.

Overall I don't think Apocalypse did any good for Prof X and Magneto being the stars in another film. The demand everywhere I've seen is always for the students.

 

[psylockolussus]

Psylocke was definitely most anticipated new character! This film didn't really stand a chance after everybody saw how they treated her badly.

 

[EnDz0n3]

I'm weary about having popular stars/starlets (Emilia Clarke, Emmy Rossum, etc) play non-main characters from the comics. I'm afraid that's gonna be a repeat of JLaw and shoving a character in the forefront when the likes of Cyclops/Storm/Jean/Nightcrawler played second fiddle.

That said, a strong script should always be of paramount importance and the rest will follow. One where we are finally rid of mute characters and most of the cast gets to shine. Then you can hire the big names all you like

 

[Frankeh]

I'm weary about having popular stars/starlets (Emilia Clarke, Emmy Rossum, etc) play non-main characters from the comics. I'm afraid that's gonna be a repeat of JLaw and shoving a character in the forefront when the likes of Cyclops/Storm/Jean/Nightcrawler played second fiddle.

Sophie Turner is pretty big because of GOT though and Tye Sheridan stars in a Steven Spielberg (back in blockbuster mode) movie this year.

At this point they have no excuse to shortchange those two.

 

[EnDz0n3]

I should've mentioned those to start with but yea i agree.

That said the Spielberg gig is not a given. See: kid from War Horse, kid from BFG, kid from War of the Worlds.

 

[2kt09]

Yeah, definitely not a given. Just noticed the writers for that movie.

Sheridan is however a rising star, more-so than his costars.

 

[X-Maniac]

Quicksilver and Psylocke had the high numbers in this poll Followed by Jean and Nightcrawler.

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.co...calypse-character-are-you-most-excited-about/

Here at SHH I'd say Jean is the top choice.

Overall I don't think Apocalypse did any good for Prof X and Magneto being the stars in another film. The demand everywhere I've seen is always for the students.

Ain't that the truth.

McAvoy and Fassbender are solid performers in their roles but not the reason people go to see these films. Fassbender was not able to elevate Assassins Creed either - it has 16 per cent on RT.

Here's hoping the people in charge of this franchise wake up and have reality for breakfast.

Psylocke would have been a disappointment to most - despite having Olivia Munn in the role, in a comic-accurate costume and well featured in trailers... she had only two lines in the movie and hardly any characterisation. What a TERRIBLE misjudgement.

Shame that Storm didn't get much love in that RT poll but she was also under-used, under-characterised and generally crapped on. Worshipping Mystique as a hero? Pffft. Get outta here.

 

[JEM]

Glad the hype is still the hype .

In december, Michel Trudel, president of MES (Montreal Studio) said in Journal of Montreal, the next X-Men Movie (New Mutants) could have similar budget to XA. He didn't say any number but we could assume between 140 and 160 million.

In response to Franked, X-Maniac, Psylockolussus, i don't think you need to worry about Mystique and Magneto. If Fox and Co can't make X-Men movie with Cyclop, Jean and Storm in lead . Why their next X-Men movie is about Magik, Sunspot, Cannonbal, Mirage, Wolfsbane ( C-list mutants)?

It doesn't make sense. Beside, Storm could be in the movie if the rumor is true. NM is already an evolution for the franchise because they aren't the most popular X-Men but Fox and Kinberg seems to have faith in Josh Boone vision.

You think Fox and co have to let go with Fassbender and Fawrence and you are right. But i think you need to wake up too because the next step could be already here.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I'm afraid that's gonna be a repeat of JLaw and shoving a character in the forefront when the likes of Cyclops/Storm/Jean/Nightcrawler played second fiddle.

Jlaws had the most screen time in FC ironically, the one she wasn't famous at the time with.

The idea that if an actor becomes bigger fox will pressure them to be the main character is just so silly and misguided.

With that logic makes me wonder why mystique wasn't the one to take down apocalypse at the end rather then have no action and just sit out alot of that final battle, she is played by a big actress so mystique should have got up while everyone was weakening him and she could have took apocalypse down with Psylockes sword.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Ain't that the truth.

McAvoy and Fassbender are solid performers in their roles but not the reason people go to see these films. Fassbender was not able to elevate Assassins Creed either - it has 16 per cent on RT.

But it being 16% on RT isn't down to fassbenders appeal though.

Everyone is so busy looking at the actors and not the fact that the character is already and the actor is just boosting that appeal, infact i think Magneto is what boosted fassbenders career since he was in everything after FC

Jackman has been in many flops but wolverine is the one people are most inerested in seeing him play.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Quicksilver and Psylocke had the high numbers in this poll Followed by Jean and Nightcrawler.

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.co...calypse-character-are-you-most-excited-about/

Here at SHH I'd say Jean is the top choice.

Overall I don't think Apocalypse did any good for Prof X and Magneto being the stars in another film. The demand everywhere I've seen is always for the students.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/53974

Thing is you can't speak for everyone, yeah you can say everyone is sick of magneto and take him out but then like the people who whined about wolverine stealing the spotlight the moment he ain't there people start asking why he isn't in the movie? its one of those things where people only get their pitch forks out when they don't get what they want but when they do they have no reason too and that works both ways really.

You can't please everyone but you can at least try.

 

[X-Maniac]

Glad the hype is still the hype .

In december, Michel Trudel, president of MES (Montreal Studio) said in Journal of Montreal, the next X-Men Movie (New Mutants) could have similar budget to XA. He didn't say any number but we could assume between 140 and 160 million.

In response to Franked, X-Maniac, Psylockolussus, i don't think you need to worry about Mystique and Magneto. If Fox and Co can't make X-Men movie with Cyclop, Jean and Storm in lead . Why their next X-Men movie is about Magik, Sunspot, Cannonbal, Mirage, Wolfsbane ( C-list mutants)?

It doesn't make sense. Beside, Storm could be in the movie if the rumor is true. NM is already an evolution for the franchise because they aren't the most popular X-Men but Fox and Kinberg seems to have faith in Josh Boone vision.

You think Fox and co have to let go with Fassbender and Fawrence and you are right. But i think you need to wake up too because the next step could be already here.

With New Mutants, they are banking on a different concept in the hope it will be a breath of fresh air like Deadpool was. I just hope it isn't like a cheap rip-off of Harry Potter.

Storm's magic-based heritage makes her a good choice to be in the movie, but that may be just a rumour that never comes to fruition.

 

[EnDz0n3]

With that logic makes me wonder why mystique wasn't the one to take down apocalypse at the end rather then have no action and just sit out alot of that final battle, she is played by a big actress so mystique should have got up while everyone was weakening him and she could have took apocalypse down with Psylockes sword.

Don't be silly. They probably had that in the script until she put her foot down and said she didn't want to wear her blue make-up that day. Kidding

In all seriousness, Mystique was still very much important, seems the characters can't do anything without telling us their feelings about the all-important hero.

It seems like Hank was going thru the motions until Mystique shows up at the mansion.

Once Apocalypse starts choking out Mystique, is when Xavier really got up (not literally) and took notice to come up with a plan to defeat the villain.

Which is around the time when Storm decides to switch sides and fight along with the good guys.

At different points, characters are practically begging her to do one thing or another. Beast for one. Thankfully they deleted Xavier begging Mystique at the end outside the mansion.

I gotta say, JLaw's few bright spots, acting-wise in Apocalypse is the few seconds she was *****y towards the kids. Like when Jean asks her if she was scared when she was going into her first battle:

"No."

Reminds me of Romijn's demeanor when in Alkali Lake in X2, when Storm asks about the kids and if Mystique can shut down the power to dark cerebro and she rolls her eyes.

She can team up with the heroes from time to time but Mystique should always retain that double-faced, cold personality.

 

[Frankeh]

Thing is you can't speak for everyone

But you can say what the general sentiment is online. I mean there's no way to sugarcoat it. JLaw in X-Men pretty much riles up online fanboys, except for her own fanbase.

Its like saying "not everyone dislikes Jar Jar Binks, so why take him out of the next movie?" Like yeah, lets take into account the very very small minority, why not?!

Anyway I've seen you say plenty of times that the OT was too Wolverine focused and X-Men movies shouldn't need him yet you insist on people that Magneto and Raven are imperative for the franchise going forward, even though people feel about them exactly how you felt about Wolverine.

 

[EnDz0n3]

"You can't speak for everyone" but let me speak for the producers.

 

[Frankeh]

Jean Grey and Cyclops were pretty much retired for two movies (FC and DOFP)... I guess Storm counts for being in the future section DOFP, but she was (like the other mutants) mostly a VFX prop.

Yet somehow retiring Magneto and Mystique is impossible.

 

[psylockolussus]

The thing is Mystique could be that person who isnt necessarily bad, and ends up helping the X-Men from time to time, but they ended the movie with her training the first set of the X-Men. It just felt so wrong and Xavier was just watching outside the danger room.

 

[Frankeh]

The thing is Mystique could be that person who isnt necessarily bad, and ends up helping the X-Men from time to time, but they ended the movie with her training the first set of the X-Men. It just felt so wrong and Xavier was just watching outside the danger room.

I agree completely it should've been Xavier giving them that pep talk. It is what any fan would expect from an X-Men movie, the iconic leader leading his team. But some posters here really think one should be forced to like it because it was in character for Mystique. Blah.

 

[EnDz0n3]

"You guys are simply not feminists enough!"

 

[x-er]

Don't be silly. They probably had that in the script until she put her foot down and said she didn't want to wear her blue make-up that day. Kidding

In all seriousness, Mystique was still very much important, seems the characters can't do anything without telling us their feelings about the all-important hero.

It seems like Hank was going thru the motions until Mystique shows up at the mansion.

Once Apocalypse starts choking out Mystique, is when Xavier really got up (not literally) and took notice to come up with a plan to defeat the villain.

Which is around the time when Storm decides to switch sides and fight along with the good guys.

At different points, characters are practically begging her to do one thing or another. Beast for one. Thankfully they deleted Xavier begging Mystique at the end outside the mansion.

I gotta say, JLaw's few bright spots, acting-wise in Apocalypse is the few seconds she was *****y towards the kids. Like when Jean asks her if she was scared when she was going into her first battle:

"No."

Reminds me of Romijn's demeanor when in Alkali Lake in X2, when Storm asks about the kids and if Mystique can shut down the power to dark cerebro and she rolls her eyes.

I don't see it

She can team up with the heroes from time to time but Mystique should always retain that double-faced, cold personality.


I agree! And it wouldn't matter if she was gone for the next few films. Things happen in between them. I mean, we still have no idea what exactly happened to Stryker and Wolverine after DOFP's ending. .

 

[GuestStar2004]

The thing is Mystique could be that person who isnt necessarily bad, and ends up helping the X-Men from time to time, but they ended the movie with her training the first set of the X-Men. It just felt so wrong and Xavier was just watching outside the danger room.

Well in all fairness if you needed someone to train a group to fight then it probably would be the one who knows how to fight and in DOFP she clearly is a skilled fighter, we just dunno how to learned to fight though as its never really been explained.

it just depends what you are expecting though i guess.