Is porn corrupting society?

[Greens]

Porn doesn't exist to give you realistic expectations. It's a heightened version of reality. If porn gave you erectile dysfunction, that sucks for you, but most people perform perfectly fine.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Porn doesn't exist to give you realistic expectations. It's a heightened version of reality. If porn gave you erectile dysfunction, that sucks for you, but most people perform perfectly fine.

I agree and if porn gave everyone who watched it erectile dysfunction the human population would've plummeted a long time ago.

 

[CJ]

I would say yes. It's amoral, and in some cases, goes against nature. It is easily accessible to children, too. Do I look at it? Yes. I'm human. But i've tried many times to stop.

 

[Greens]

How does it go against nature? By definition, everything we do is nature.

 

[Warhammer]

i'm actually on the " yourbrainonporn/nofap " bandwagon, which is apparently an unpopular opinion , because everyone just wants an excuse to continue fapping to a computer screen.

now, i've failed MANY times, but that won't stop me from trying , lol

i truly believe i couldn't get it up for my (now ex ) gf years ago due to porn induced erectile dysfunction as well as performance anxiety . but that's just me.

it's also not going to teach you to be a better love maker at all.

[YT]rxl3XRmvrPk[/YT]

I'm debating whether it was legitimately the porn that caused you to have ED or if you are merely blaming porn for your ED. Many would strong suggest the latter, my man. I hope your post was sarcastic.

 

[MurkeNyou]

Nope, if anything it's helped us progress.

 

[Legendver2]

I just hope Faye Reagan is doing ok.

The only gingah woman this black heart could ever love.

Why what happened to her? She's probably the hottest redhead performer I know of.

Dani Daniels looks like Marion Cotillard, but with a hnnnnngh booty.

You know, I never realized that. Now I can watch her stuff in a whole new perspective. On a side note, Cotillard's body was pretty hnnnngh too in her younger days.

Romances give women an unrealistic expectation for relationships.

Women should stop watching and reading them.

They actually have porn for women, where it's story driven and romantic, and the sex is more in the vein of love making than straight ****ing.

 

[terry78]

I had no idea Cytherea got gang raped by three dudes that broke into her house last year. She's a personal fave so that **** angered me.

 

[Greens]

I had no idea Cytherea got gang raped by three dudes that broke into her house last year. She's a personal fave so that **** angered me.

What the ****? That's crazy.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Dani Daniels looks like Marion Cotillard

Yes! That's what caught my attention the first time I saw her. Sandra Romain also looks somewhat like Marion.

 

[The Bruce]

If internet porn existed in the 1930's Hitler would have stayed in his mother's basement.

 

[TheCommissioner]

Romances give women an unrealistic expectation for relationships.

Women should stop watching and reading them.

have any of you ever actually READ one of those Harlequin romance novels?

s***, those things are smuttier than a fair amount of porn

 

[KevanG]

or for the rest of your life.

or make your dick limp unless you watch the latest " anal gape " video on xxx.xxx , making you relatively useless to a woman.

Those two sound like personal problems not related to porn itself but the individual.

 

[hellblazer103]

I'm debating whether it was legitimately the porn that caused you to have ED or if you are merely blaming porn for your ED. Many would strong suggest the latter, my man. I hope your post was sarcastic.

Omg .... It's a proven thing to happen . look it up. And I don't have it anymore. In fact things are working extremely well down there. And guess what? I haven't watched porn in a while either. Hmmm... Must be a coincidence, I guess....

 

[Warhammer]

Omg .... It's a proven thing to happen . look it up. And I don't have it anymore. In fact things are working extremely well down there. And guess what? I haven't watched porn in a while either. Hmmm... Must be a coincidence, I guess....

You're an outlier that some people who have a bias against porn like to blow out of proportion in order to prove a point.

And congratulations on your recovery.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Omg .... It's a proven thing to happen . look it up. And I don't have it anymore. In fact things are working extremely well down there. And guess what? I haven't watched porn in a while either. Hmmm... Must be a coincidence, I guess....

What's proven is that if men over do self stimulation, using porn or not, they can develop problems. That doesn't mean porn CAUSES the problem. The person caused the problem for themselves.

Take yourself as the perfect example. You took the road of not giving into your own need or addiction because it was causing you harm. THAT is what the problem was, your lack of self control, not the porn. What you are often sounding like here is someone that would claim their alcoholism is predicated on the mere existence of alcohol alone. Again note that I am not saying alcoholism as an inherited trait is not a thing. That would be a position with no nuance at all. BUT to say you as an individual have no input into this equation either is also in my opinion a false assumption. What I don't think is a false assumption is to understand that WE, ourselves are the common denominator of all our experiences. Things that we get addicted to don't act on us without some measure of our own consent. We participate in BEING a human being. I say, don't excuse ourselves by trying to claim something outside ourselves that is not a necessity, like food or air ect. dictates our actions in total.

Also... Yeah not every single person nor even the majority that consume pornography in it's many forms sudden goes off the deep end or becomes a sex addict. That reasoning is faulty. Again, YOU showed through your experience what the real issue is and it's not the mere existence of people getting filmed while engaged in various sexual acts.

 

[DA_Champion]

Omg .... It's a proven thing to happen . look it up. And I don't have it anymore. In fact things are working extremely well down there. And guess what? I haven't watched porn in a while either. Hmmm... Must be a coincidence, I guess....

I'm on day 13 or so of no-fap myself. I'm doing it as an experiment and I'm finding it tremendously difficult. I'm waiting for the infamous "flatline" to happen ... I know it's scary to a lot of people, but I think I'll be relieved myself.

In the past 19 years, since age 13 or so, I've averaged >~2x/day. The longest I've gone without is ~5 days, I had done that when travelling. It would have never occurred to me to try a long-term nofap if not for the countless success stories online.

Porn-induced ED is clearly a real thing as per the thousands of testimonials and documented research on the issue. The outstanding questions are how common it is, who is more likely to be afflicted, and what the actual mechanisms are.There are different reasons why this might. It may be decreased sensitivity, nerve damage, dopamine-response, et cetera. A lot of possibilities. I don't think the science as to the mechanism is clear. I have looked and not found an explanation/mechanism I find satisfactory. However, that is the case for many medicines doctors prescribe, the mechanisms are not understood, only the results, and clinical trials can be quite dubious in how they're reported.

There's also a host of other benefits. I was talking to another guy about it earlier, and he says that since he's quit porn he's a lot more enthusiastic and confident about going out and meeting women. He said the ideal is to be more enthusiastic about women, to feel aroused just when sitting near them, cuddling, making out, et cetera and not needing really aggressive sex, self-stimulation, or pornography. That's the trend his body has been behaving in during the past forty days.

A third guy I spoke to about the issue a couple months ago, he quit porn early when his most recent relationship started, and he said the sex drastically improved.

This may or may not have an effect, but it's unlikely to cause harm and it's worked for a lot of people so I'm willing to try it.

 

[OcStat]

It sure is possible. I got a computer in 5th grade, it was probably a matter of months before I heard there was an endless supply of naked women on the internet and my curiosity got the best of me. It doesn't surprise me there would be psychological repercussions to years of unrealisitc representations of the female body and intercourse, especially when the exposure begins before one has the capacity to comprehend an intimate relationship.

 

[DA_Champion]

It sure is possible. I got a computer in 5th grade, it was probably a matter of months before I heard there was an endless supply of naked women on the internet and my curiosity got the best of me. It doesn't surprise me there would be psychological repercussions to years of unrealisitc representations of the female body and intercourse, especially when the exposure begins before one has the capacity to comprehend an intimate relationship.

An interesting result of the research in this area is that men in their 40s and 50s with porn-induced ED typically only 2-3 months to recover their sexuality. In contrast, men in their 20s and 30s often taken longer, 5-6 months, to recover their sexuality.

It's hypothesized that this is so because younger men have never lived in a world without ubiquitous pornography.

 

[OcStat]

I can imagine it would only get worse now that the entire internet is in our pocket all day every day. There was a meme I saw a while back that had models of cell phones getting smaller and smaller, until "when we discovered we could watch porn" and then models of phones since then getting bigger and bigger ala the Galaxy.

I haven't had any real problems yet performance wise but occasionally I'll go a week or so I have like a compulsive tick to browse.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I like how people are conflating things here in their responses. No one so far has said you can't take things to far, or that getting addicted isn't possible. For sure if you go too far you will reap what you sow and it can and will have negative effects.

What I call BS on is the idea that this just automatically happens, and sorry, that is what some people's position sound like. Again, let's not cut the human element out of things. As hard as it is for some of our college educated fellow Hypesters to believe but numbers are not the end all be all and the human factor is HUGE in many areas. Again, the existence of porn doesn't automatically do something to every human being and they themselves bear a nice measure of responsibility for their actions. I used to think that's what being an adult, especially an educated and informed one was all about but given my time on the Hype and reading what supposedly well educated people think all the time I'm starting to think that's a pipe dream given the lack of wisdom I read regularly.

 

[DA_Champion]

I can imagine it would only get worse now that the entire internet is in our pocket all day every day. There was a meme I saw a while back that had models of cell phones getting smaller and smaller, until "when we discovered we could watch porn" and then models of phones since then getting bigger and bigger ala the Galaxy.

I haven't had any real problems yet performance wise but occasionally I'll go a week or so I have like a compulsive tick to browse.

I hadn't made that link. That's a good point.

Having the entire internet at our fingertips at a moment's notice is likely damaging to a lot of people. I think it's plausible that it undermines the brain's reward circuitry.

A lot of people are addicted and not just to porn. Go to a restaurant, and see how many people would rather chat on their cell phones than to the live person in front of them.

I wrote a spectacular doctoral dissertation in graduate school, several hundred pages and 9 publications, I've long thought that one of the ingredients of my success was that I chose not to own a smart phone, and not to keep internet in my apartment.

 

[redhawk23]

I hadn't made that link. That's a good point.

Having the entire internet at our fingertips at a moment's notice is likely damaging to a lot of people. I think it's plausible that it undermines the brain's reward circuitry.

A lot of people are addicted and not just to porn. Go to a restaurant, and see how many people would rather chat on their cell phones than to the live person in front of them.

I wrote a spectacular doctoral dissertation in graduate school, several hundred pages and 9 publications, I've long thought that one of the ingredients of my success was that I chose not to own a smart phone, and not to keep internet in my apartment.

People have always found excuses not to talk to other people. It always makes me laugh when people complain about people on trains and subways with phones when all the old photos show everyone with newspapers.

 

[redhawk23]

Porn doesn't exist to give you realistic expectations. It's a heightened version of reality. If porn gave you erectile dysfunction, that sucks for you, but most people perform perfectly fine.

Mainstream porn is a major expression and re-enforcement of cultural values that greatly de-emphasize actual sexual fulfillment for women. Even when the actresses pretend to be driven wild its not anything that would particularly work well in real life. Many men don't actually know how to please a woman but don't actually feel compelled to do so either as long as they are serviced.

This isn't a porn specific problem really. Its a problem of our culture that shines through loud and clear in our pornography.

 

[DA_Champion]

People have always found excuses not to talk to other people. It always makes me laugh when people complain about people on trains and subways with phones when all the old photos show everyone with newspapers.

I'm not discussing conversations with strangers on the subway, though that matters too. I meant conversations among acquaintances. It's also been noted, similarly, by college professors that their students often no longer talk to each other, they listen to their MP3 players and talk to their cell phones.

I don't think it's the same, the newspaper of old and the cell phone of today. The cell phone is ubiquitous and infinite in content and provides the illusion of being interactive. The newspaper is non-interactive and can typically be read fully in short time. I used to read all or nearly all the sections of the newspaper I found interesting with my father between 730am and 800am.

A joke is going around that if a bunch of people are out for dinner together, the first person who reaches for his cell phone pays the full tab. I doubt they ever had that joke going for newspapers and novels.

Mainstream porn is a major expression and re-enforcement of cultural values that greatly de-emphasize actual sexual fulfillment for women. Even when the actresses pretend to be driven wild its not anything that would particularly work well in real life. Many men don't actually know how to please a woman but don't actually feel compelled to do so either as long as they are serviced.

Good point.