is sentry the next big thing?

[blud_knight]

Well folks. The Marvel site has included in their bio that Sentry's powers are likely without limits. He has all of the power that many that his peers have, and more. Could he be Marvels next big thing, or will he be that guy who is only brought out to battle big threats and then forgotten?

 

[Tropico]

I think New Avengers has more than answered that question. I can't help but feel that this thread would have had more relevance when the mini's came out, at this moment in time it just seems...pointless. It might seem like Gladiator sucks when he starts to lack confidence but Sentry made the giant leap into lameness, IMO, when Tony beat him by having Cloc start listing disasters occurring at different parts of the world and Sentry could do nothing but sit there in a conflicted mess as to what emergency he should attend to first.

 

[supermarvelman]

Well it's hard not to use him for just big threats but I think Marvel will use him for more than just that. DC uses Supes for more than just big threats.

 

[blud_knight]

^ right but supes has a lot more history

 

[Eros]

No Sentry is a lazy ripoff and crap.

 

[blud_knight]

^ ah so we see where you stand. Hey i agree he does share a few to many similarities.

 

[Roughneck]

But at the same time a lot of Major Differences that Set him aside.


I don't like him at all but even I can deny the originality in a sea of rip off.

 

[Phoney Bone]

They wanted him to be the next big thing....They tried to push him as the next big thing. And turned out we didn't give a ****.

 

[Dread]

In the professional sense, yes, Sentry will be a major character and has been. He has been in NEW AVENGERS, he will show up elsewhere in MIGHTY AVENGERS and ever since the former, he's popped up in various comics since Jenkins' original mini years back, including a sequal by Jenkins. Through use alone he will become major. After all, countless characters become what they are today through sheer repeated usage, a fact most writers forget with attempting to iron out new rogues to replace the villians they keep killing, running into the ground, or making into Thunderbolts.

In terms of characters, he got off on the wrong foot via outright fan deception that WIZARD still brags about, as if tricking your costumers and then laughing about it is something to be admired. Then in subsequent appearences, he has been revealed to be Marvel's most unstable character, far more dangerous than a billion Wanda Maximoff's. Many Marvel writers see the "key" to making a "Marvel character" is to make a superhero and then give them a gigantic flaw that hampers them whereever they go; Sentry follows this to the extreme in the sense that he is the world's first bipolar superhero. But would anyone trust a man who can become a spazzoid maniac at the drop of a hat to save the world? He has usually been written as a heap of flaws that resemble a human form, and that has made him boring. Even Jenkins at times it at a loss to do much more with him. His powers coupled with his insanity mean he can do whatever the story desires, whether punching out a Celestial or cowering before The Hood, so long as the story needs it.

I've never cared for him at all. But he'll keep showing up, if only because you need a strong, caped, nigh invulnerable blond guy to attempt to fill in for Thor, so I've gotten used to him.

 

[blud_knight]

I was suprised that he had all of this power and was not a cosmic. It seems like for years when marvel needed someone who could do anything they would just say, "oh lets just say he wields the power cosmic" and tah dah we have another mega powered demigod

 

[The Cajun]

The Sentry will be big as soon as a writer comes along with some new ideas for the character. He needs to get over the whole self doubt thing and find a new driving force for his character.

He has the powers to be a big player for Marvel he just needs the right writer.

 

[jaydawg]

After reading both Jenkins penned Sentry minis, I do think this is a character with a hell of alot of potential. That said, the more he's written as some ultra *****, the guy will never be more than "Crazy superman." I think if Jenkins had an actual series, there could be a lot to do with him. I'd put an actual limit on his powers (the power of a million exploding suns? Is the Silver Surfer even a fraction that strong?), gave him some a rogues gallery consisting of some big time players (The Wrecking Crew, U foes, Absorbing Man, Blastaar, Count Nefaria could be his Lex Luthor) and some new guys (magic villains always are effective against the super strong, which makes me wonder why Supes has no actual magic enemies), I think theres a good chance that there can be someone incredibly strong with a monthly title and not just be a deus ex machina.

Like Cajun said, he just needs the right writer.

 

[blud_knight]

^ who would you pick to write sentry?

 

[Fading]

I think he'll become bigger, but it will just take time.

ATM they want to build up his popularity as he's still relatively new (at least compared to characters out for half a century). So they put him on a book with popular characters. The problem being of course that they wanted him powerful enough to outclass Superman in a fight, but put him on a book with Spiderman, Wolverine, Luke Cage, and Spiderwoman (who while powerful in their own rights, are no Flash, MM, or Wonderwoman). So in order to make the book interesting they had to weaken Sentry or he could just do all the work for the others and in less time.

In Mighty he's teamed up with harder hitters than he was in NA, they hopefully will go up against bigger foes and he can cut loose some more. As it stood up til CW he was being held back and weakened, which is the opposite of why they even made him (to be the most powerful Earth based hero).

Now if they ever put him on a book with Surfer, Dr. Strange, Hulk, and some other higher tier heroes and had them fight some Galactus level threats (and ppl would actually buy it) I think his popularity would rise a bit.

 

[blud_knight]

I would love to see him slug it out with a 100+ enemy, or be drawn into a battle with Galactus. Perhaps if he saved a planet or two he might loose the self doubt.

 

[Union Jack]

i wouldnt say next big thig right now.
but hopefully he will be,apart from ben reilly he is the only new new character i have really taken to.
ok he is a superman derivative but considering supermans powers...alot of folk are ripped of from the big man anyway.
i have alot of love for the sentry and hope i will become a major player in the MU and a real force for good for all the heroes.
of course for m the biggest hero will superman style respect is captain america...if the sentry could get that sort of love and respect then he can finally be the great character i hope he will become.

 

[Darthphere]

I love the Sentry, his two mini's, especially the first one are awesome. Sadly, he's gotten a raw deal from his current usage from Bendis. I mean if you haven't read anything except for his story featured in The Return, you can see that Jenkins really knows how to write this character.

 

[Darthphere]

In terms of characters, he got off on the wrong foot via outright fan deception that WIZARD still brags about, as if tricking your costumers and then laughing about it is something to be admired.

I still find it funny that you're so genuinely hurt by that. Like if the fact that marvel lied about Stan Lee creating him back in the day negates his awesome intitial mini.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

No Sentry is a lazy ripoff and crap.

Amen to that.Since Marvel has Sentry,why have The Avengers..why have the Fantastic Four?Why have any hero.He`ll die out.

 

[supermarvelman]

No Sentry is a lazy ripoff and crap.

You have no clue what your talking about, all you see is an "S" and a cape and you assume he's a rip-off, anybody who has enough common sense know that he is Marvels Superman, but he is nothing like Supes, he is not a rip-off, your just talking out of yor ass.

 

[supermarvelman]

Amen to that.Since Marvel has Sentry,why have The Avengers..why have the Fantastic Four?Why have any hero.He`ll die out.

So stupid, why does the DCU have the JLA, or the JSA, or the GLC, or Flash, cause one hero no matter how powerful cant take care of all the problems around the world/galaxy/universe.

 

[Dread]

I still find it funny that you're so genuinely hurt by that. Like if the fact that marvel lied about Stan Lee creating him back in the day negates his awesome intitial mini.

I've had arguements with people over this personal niggle before, and don't feel like getting into it again. It goes in circles. At the very least, I have since abandoned WIZARD, and am so surprised by how much I don't miss getting it that I wish I'd dumped it maybe a year ago and saved myself more cash and space. I mean, unlike a comic, a Wizard issue is totally worthless and may as well be multch.

Imagine if MIRAMAX had no end of promos of some brand new HITCHCOCK film, fully scripted by the man before his death and whatnot, that was now dusted off and being made according to his personal notes and even some test footage for today's audience...and then when you walk into the theatre, you see a screen that says, "SUCKERS! We made the whole thing up with the permission of the estate. We have your money now, you may as well watch our movie now. Zort!"

Would you ever trust MIRAMAX again? And would you rush to their films the same way again? I know I wouldn't.

The comic market is a cottage industry that is sheltered and small, and in that way more intimate than, say, APPLE COMPUTERS. So when a big company outright LIES to sell something, it feels more personal. It's a point that Joe Q seems to completely not understand as he baits people in practically every interview he has ever given. And it is why they are always caught by surprise by any backlash. Yes, all companies basically lie to sell something. But with comics we like to believe something different. So you either play the game or shatter illusions, and people react poorly to shattered illusions. None of us liked learning that Santa wasn't real, or that life stinks, or justice is an illusion. Heck, that may be why many of us like comics.

I had some intregity and I vowed never to pay anything to read a Sentry solo comic. If he happens to be in a team book or back up story, hey, whatever. And from what I have read so far I haven't felt I denied myself much. I'm sure Sentry could be great in the right hands like any character, but to me he represents Lies, and Flaws Becoming a Character, not a character who happens who have flaws.

 

[Darthphere]

I've had arguements with people over this personal niggle before, and don't feel like getting into it again. It goes in circles. At the very least, I have since abandoned WIZARD, and am so surprised by how much I don't miss getting it that I wish I'd dumped it maybe a year ago and saved myself more cash and space. I mean, unlike a comic, a Wizard issue is totally worthless and may as well be multch.

Imagine if MIRAMAX had no end of promos of some brand new HITCHCOCK film, fully scripted by the man before his death and whatnot, that was now dusted off and being made according to his personal notes and even some test footage for today's audience...and then when you walk into the theatre, you see a screen that says, "SUCKERS! We made the whole thing up with the permission of the estate. We have your money now, you may as well watch our movie now. Zort!"

Would you ever trust MIRAMAX again? And would you rush to their films the same way again? I know I wouldn't.

The comic market is a cottage industry that is sheltered and small, and in that way more intimate than, say, APPLE COMPUTERS. So when a big company outright LIES to sell something, it feels more personal. It's a point that Joe Q seems to completely not understand as he baits people in practically every interview he has ever given. And it is why they are always caught by surprise by any backlash. Yes, all companies basically lie to sell something. But with comics we like to believe something different. So you either play the game or shatter illusions, and people react poorly to shattered illusions. None of us liked learning that Santa wasn't real, or that life stinks, or justice is an illusion. Heck, that may be why many of us like comics.

I had some intregity and I vowed never to pay anything to read a Sentry solo comic. If he happens to be in a team book or back up story, hey, whatever. And from what I have read so far I haven't felt I denied myself much. I'm sure Sentry could be great in the right hands like any character, but to me he represents Lies, and Flaws Becoming a Character, not a character who happens who have flaws.

I still think its stupid.


I mean, all big companies lie. ALL OF THEM. Ok, comic books are a niche market so forth and so on, but they lied and then came clean about it. Colgate told me that its toothpaste would make my teeth whiter in 2 weeks, my teeth aren't any whiter than they were 2 weeks ago.

The Miramax example is funny, because it reminds me of the whole deal with Hostel. A lot of people went to see the movie thinking it was a Quentin Tarantino flick, because his name was so prominently placed in promotion. I haven't seen an outcry of anger by being mislead. Maybe its not the same thing, but honestly, that was more than 5 years ago. I hope you don't hold grudges like that with your girlfirend.

 

[Tropico]

Hahahahahahahahahaha! Four paragraphs and 2 statements to answer Darthphere's question. Priceless!!!up:

 

[Darthphere]

Hahahahahahahahahaha! Four paragraphs and 2 statements to answer Darthphere's question. Priceless!!!up:

It wasn't even a question.