Is Super-Heroism Possible?

[dusk20]

His retractable pole sounds pretty kool, how did he do it?

Retractable is really the wrong word, its more like a 'blind' mans cane. Its folds into 3 parts by a strong wire inside the hollow silver pole. Its fairly strong metal too and once its connected it looks like a bo staff (about a meter in length).

Now how Bes got it is even better...I gave it too him. I work at a bottle shop and it was part of a display stand. When I broke it down, i noticed it and played around with it. I had no use for it and passed it on.

 

[donaldthe3rd]

t: lol, thats pretty sweet, I just made mine out of sum scrap junk in my back yard, and it turned out just what I had wanted.

 

[mikestylez]

actually someone like batman is unrealistic. no matter how much you train in martial arts. I have studied martial arts for quite sometime. 5 years and any one can tell you that nobody can physically take on mobs people by themselves and leave every body knocked out on the ground with out breaking a sweat. a trained fighter can handle 2-3 guys max in certain situations if they have room to move around. what you se batman do is way beyond realistic and I train with UFC type fighters who are the best.

also batmans agility is unrealistic jumping 10-15 ft with out running i damn near impossible no human has that vertical leap and even if they are running getting 10 ft in the air is damn near impossible.

taking a bullet even with body armor will have you on the floor ask anybody that works for the military or army. so being like batman or daredevil is out of the question and being like electra to.

 

[The Question]

actually someone like batman is unrealistic. no matter how much you train in martial arts. I have studied martial arts for quite sometime. 5 years and any one can tell you that nobody can physically take on mobs people by themselves and leave every body knocked out on the ground with out breaking a sweat. a trained fighter can handle 2-3 guys max in certain situations if they have room to move around. what you se batman do is way beyond realistic and I train with UFC type fighters who are the best.

also batmans agility is unrealistic jumping 10-15 ft with out running i damn near impossible no human has that vertical leap and even if they are running getting 10 ft in the air is damn near impossible.

taking a bullet even with body armor will have you on the floor ask anybody that works for the military or army. so being like batman or daredevil is out of the question and being like electra to.

Being exactly like Batman (or at least how some writers who I'm not too fond of write Batman) may be impossible. But I don't think being a non lethal vigilante is.

 

[echostation]

someone needs to relax and actually stop putting themselves in danger... You want to help by being a hero? become a fireman or a true honest cop, not like some fat corrupt fuzz member.

I can't believe people get delusional about crossing the lines here lol, thinking that it is possible and then even went so far as to try it... To sum this up without going all the way into it:

The point I find of superheroes in comics... why i find them so appealing in general is that they help set an example to lead us in ASPIRING to be better than we can be in just normal, usual daily life... not to ASPIRE TO BE THEM.

The emotional extremes and conflicts that each character goes through, it's great in a way to see that woah, so this is a cool way of looking at things... or if a character makes a huge mistake, then you just see possible creative consequences of those actions written and drawn by someone else.

I find it so neat for example, that these characters go through so much and have still survived... on that general outset it always inspired me since i was a kid to have that never say never attitude and to just keep pushing things forward... can't get thru the front door, break a window... but persist to survive and persist WITHIN ONE's OWN SELF to be a better person, the simple things people, not huge huge feats which will lead to self harm much like some people on this board claim to have done (ie vigilante acts and taking the law into your own hand).. that's what I really like about these superheroes in general.

Is Superheroism possible? Sure, just not in the stereotypical classic sense of the term.... be a hero by improving yourself and simultaneously improving your own surroundings such that everyone benefits...

 

[dusk20]

^ I like what you said, but if Donald goes out on patrol again, i want to hear about it.

My mate tells me about it all the time. Its so unreal.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I didn't think people actually did that sort of thing.

I kind of thought about it once, though it was more of an afterthought from several of my other projects just kind of coming together once.

I had actually generated (for my own defense, due to some overriding paranoia when I was a little younger about being invaded or something) an immediate versatile survival suit. Which was actually kind of cool in the fact that it was an insulating homeostatic centered suit with a special kind of cloth that actually hardened upon impact, making it extremely durable. Wearing a few plates on it that actually tucked under the non reflective surface of the black suit were thinner aluminum plates, and my entire knuckle structure, and lower palm were plated for my defense. Of course, vital areas also afforded thicker amounts of the plating, as well as a mask with a small filter for breathing, so most things couldn't get to me. The whole suit was extremely durable and rather lightweight, and easy to get into, and out of if you knew how it opened and closed.

Either way, I thought about it once, and then decided against it. One, I'm no more capable at stopping crime short of literally preventing what I may believe to be crime (moral dillemma), and two, I more or less found I liked (and was better at) just designing and planning, over actual prevention. That, and I guess the materials cost a lot if the suit becomes repeatedly damaged.

 

[Julez]

Donald is never going to get laid...ever. Log off.

 

[dusk20]

I didn't think people actually did that sort of thing.

I kind of thought about it once, though it was more of an afterthought from several of my other projects just kind of coming together once.

I had actually generated (for my own defense, due to some overriding paranoia when I was a little younger about being invaded or something) an immediate versatile survival suit. Which was actually kind of cool in the fact that it was an insulating homeostatic centered suit with a special kind of cloth that actually hardened upon impact, making it extremely durable. Wearing a few plates on it that actually tucked under the non reflective surface of the black suit were thinner aluminum plates, and my entire knuckle structure, and lower palm were plated for my defense. Of course, vital areas also afforded thicker amounts of the plating, as well as a mask with a small filter for breathing, so most things couldn't get to me. The whole suit was extremely durable and rather lightweight, and easy to get into, and out of if you knew how it opened and closed.

Either way, I thought about it once, and then decided against it. One, I'm no more capable at stopping crime short of literally preventing what I may believe to be crime (moral dillemma), and two, I more or less found I liked (and was better at) just designing and planning, over actual prevention. That, and I guess the materials cost a lot if the suit becomes repeatedly damaged.

Sounds interesting.

Do you have a picture of said suit

 

[donaldthe3rd]

hey Julez I'm staying the night at your mom's house, so wake me up in the morning so I can go to school.t: Or maybe she can drive me.

 

[donaldthe3rd]

Yeah I'd like to see a picture of this suit to. It sounds pretty kool.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Possibly, but if I do, it's not on this computer. I know I have pictures of the process itself, though, like said, it's not on this computer.

I'll do some searching, and definitely post them up if I can.

 

[The Question]

I've given some thought on the subject of human physical enhancement, and have a few ideas on how one might create a superhuman. Overall, they sort of incorperate aspects of science and real world mysticism and are rather complex. Though, I shant go into them right now since I am quite tired.

 

[Dope Nose]

^ I like what you said, but if Donald goes out on patrol again, i want to hear about it.

My mate tells me about it all the time. Its so unreal.

it sure is.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I've given some thought on the subject of human physical enhancement, and have a few ideas on how one might create a superhuman. Overall, they sort of incorperate aspects of science and real world mysticism and are rather complex. Though, I shant go into them right now since I am quite tired.

Mysticism, eh?

Real world application, or simply character creation?

 

[The Question]

Mysticism, eh?

Real world application, or simply character creation?

Real world aplication. The mysticism aspect comes in mostly to help certain subjects atain a sort of spiritual and mental clarity and focus necessairy for the use of their specific talents.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Real world aplication. The mysticism aspect comes in mostly to help certain subjects atain a sort of spiritual and mental clarity and focus necessairy for the use of their specific talents.

I for whatever reason thought you meant magic.

 

[The Question]

I for whatever reason thought you meant magic.

I did. Sort of. Just not in an abra kadabra you turn into a frog kind of way. Like I said, it's kind of complicated.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

It sounds like a psychological application through more of conception of higher thought. Not so much some sort of matter/energy manipulation.

 

[The Question]

It sounds like a psychological application through more of conception of higher thought. Not so much some sort of matter/energy manipulation.

I suppose. But the psychological effect would be for the purpose of helping with matter/energy manipulation. If you've ever heard of STreet Light Phenomina, that's sort pf what I'm talking about.

Also, mysticism, or magic if you want to call it that, is a bit more complex than matter/energy manipulation. It's based more on reality manipulation, based upon the idea that reality is subjective in nature.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I suppose. But the psychological effect would be for the purpose of helping with matter/energy manipulation. If you've ever heard of STreet Light Phenomina, that's sort pf what I'm talking about.

Also, mysticism, or magic if you want to call it that, is a bit more complex than matter/energy manipulation. It's based more on reality manipulation, based upon the idea that reality is subjective in nature.

THis sounds familiar somehow.

I remember, you and I discussed something like this once before.

Either way, it would definitely be safer for most people to stick to conventional means, seeing how something like that would be far more specialized, and possibly dangerous. That, and the amount of time it would probably take to learn such a thing would be massive.

 

[The Question]

THis sounds familiar somehow.

I remember, you and I discussed something like this once before.

Yeah, we did.

Either way, it would definitely be safer for most people to stick to conventional means, seeing how something like that would be far more specialized, and possibly dangerous. That, and the amount of time it would probably take to learn such a thing would be massive.

True. That's why I'd find someone with expertise in the area to help with basic stuff of mental control.

Though, funny you say "conventional means." A while back, mysticism was what was considered conventional. Funny how things change.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Well, mysticism a while back wasn't really anything really mystic, as usually, it was some odd chemical reaction.

If something like reality warping was rampant in the past, the Earth would probably be destroyed by now. The only time we actually believe reality to be warped is in high gravity/energy environments, and that sort of environment would most likely swallow our entire solar system.

That's why I say conventional, as in basic chemical and physical things. Hand to hand combat, weapon combat, maybe some sort of light anti riot supplies.

 

[The Question]

Well, mysticism a while back wasn't really anything really mystic, as usually, it was some odd chemical reaction.

Sometimes, probably.

If something like reality warping was rampant in the past, the Earth would probably be destroyed by now. The only time we actually believe reality to be warped is in high gravity/energy environments, and that sort of environment would most likely swallow our entire solar system.

As I said, there is the idea that reality is subjective in nature. That the way we perceiv reality has some effect on it. Warping reality isn't really the right term. I suppose simply changing it works better. And that's a matter that we'll just have to agree to disagree on.

Though, I am going to take the time to say something I've been feeling for a while: I personally think that one should not side completely with either scientific of mystical ways of thinking. There should be a middle ground. Both ways of aproaching things have their uses, but using either too much just sucks ass.

That's why I say conventional, as in basic chemical and physical things. Hand to hand combat, weapon combat, maybe some sort of light anti riot supplies.

Some of the ideas I've come up with are, as I said, a bit more complex that that.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Sometimes, probably.



As I said, there is the idea that reality is subjective in nature. That the way we perceiv reality has some effect on it. Warping reality isn't really the right term. I suppose simply changing it works better. And that's a matter that we'll just have to agree to disagree on.

Though, I am going to take the time to say something I've been feeling for a while: I personally think that one should not side completely with either scientific of mystical ways of thinking. There should be a middle ground. Both ways of aproaching things have their uses, but using either too much just sucks ass.



Some of the ideas I've come up with are, as I said, a bit more complex that that.

I will fully agree that thinking the universe the way it stands is the way it is, would be a fool hardy way to live. No person interested in science should merely believe the universe as we understand it is all there is. However, there are limitations to the universe itself, and those should be looked at in this search, rather than using it as a barrier to it. And forgetting them altogether would create the same loss of productivity.

Agreeing to disagree is not a problem.