Is Super-Heroism Possible?

[donaldthe3rd]

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[Enriquespy]

Mhm... will have to agree to disagree...

 

[mikestylez]

I just dont think its logically possible in the comic book sense without powers. lets say you ahve all the money in the world and you can get the best tech like bruce wayne. like the guy said there is really no grapple gun so thats out of the question. and closest thing you have exploding batterrangs are grenades. if you throw grenades around you are going to jail. so now you have body armor and ican tell teh body armor the soldiers are wearing now sucks. so lets say you get your hands on the new ****. you still cant walk in a room with 5 dudes and not get beat up.

2nd the legal. you just go into someones house because you know they are doing something. the cops cant go into a drug house without a warrant. you jsut cant show up to a mob boss'ss or child molester houe beat the crap out of him and call the cops the guy will be out of jail in 3 hours. you can be an informant to the cops if you want but thats it.

face it without powers its not possible. super powers should be avaliable soon through science just wait and check the science board to get a head start.

 

[The Question]

I just dont think its logically possible in the comic book sense without powers. lets say you ahve all the money in the world and you can get the best tech like bruce wayne. like the guy said there is really no grapple gun so thats out of the question. and closest thing you have exploding batterrangs are grenades. if you throw grenades around you are going to jail. so now you have body armor and ican tell teh body armor the soldiers are wearing now sucks. so lets say you get your hands on the new ****. you still cant walk in a room with 5 dudes and not get beat up.

There's a simple solution to that: Don't simply walk into a room like an ******* and leave yourself wide open to get the crap beat out of you. Fight smart. Sneak up on your opponents, get the drop on them, and take them out quickly enough so they can't react well. Hell, if you want to be really smart about it, sneak up on them with a gun of some kind and (if you don't want to kill them) take them out with tranquelizer darts without ever making your presence known.

2nd the legal. you just go into someones house because you know they are doing something. the cops cant go into a drug house without a warrant. you jsut cant show up to a mob boss'ss or child molester houe beat the crap out of him and call the cops the guy will be out of jail in 3 hours. you can be an informant to the cops if you want but thats it.

The cops need a warrant if they want to go into someone's home for a search. Private citizens don't. If a private citizen breaks into someone's home and finds incriminating evidence of a crime and then hands it over to the police, it can and most probably will be used in court if it can be proven that the evidence wasn't planted.

 

[donaldthe3rd]

Well in a sense it could be possible to take out a small group of maybe 5. But thats not without its downsides. Obviously you wouldnt really be able to do it without even losing your breath or atleast getting roughed up a bit. But if you were physically fit, and a well strategist then you could be able of going into a room a 5 or so, smash a chair over someone jump over a table kick down two guys etc etc... You just need to be fast and well coordinated.

 

[The Question]

And not be a dumbass.

 

[donaldthe3rd]

Seriously if you thought it through enough you could do it.

 

[Julez]

I hope you do Donald, I hope you do...I cant wait for your parents to find out what their son wants to be when he gets older.

 

[donaldthe3rd]

its my curse, my responsibility

 

[Enriquespy]

Are you OUTSTANDING enoug to fulfill the task?

Its not like you can do it with average skills...

 

[donaldthe3rd]

Well for anyone to go out and do it on a daily basis then it would take quite some planning and training to even prepare yourself. Its not something that you wake up in the morning and say "Gee I want to be a super-hero today", it takes time and hard work.

 

[atreestump]

I know I am coming in kinda late.
However I don't think any person now-a-days could stay a "superhero" for long or at least be as honest and faultless as they are. if you had all the money in the world and you bought/created the highest of hightech stuff just for arguments sake and exploding bat-grenade it would only be a matter of weeks/months at best until you used it to blow open the side of a building and take whatever you wanted because in all honesty you couldn't be stopped could you.

Even if there were counter foes that kept you on the good side they would be stopped and during the times of peace you would be tempted to do whatever you pleased. Lets be fair no one can resist temptation. Lets say you had a super power instead of all the money in the world, and lets say that your power was to turn invisible. well sure that would be cool stop a bank robber here and there. That gets boring then you see a beautiful lady next store to you but she's married does that stop you from sleeping with her?? it wouldn't stop me I know that much.

What I am trying to say is that we are humans and humans will get over zealous with the power it would go straight to our heads. so I think NO! there can only be super villains no real superheros

 

[donaldthe3rd]

I have to agree and disagree. Yes humans are a very greedy lifeform and yes nearly none of us can withstand the temptations that we encounter in our lives. But not all of us are so greedy and could be tempted enough to commit such selfish crimes without thinking about the consequences or not giving it a second thought as to wonder if its right or wrong.

 

[The Question]

I know I am coming in kinda late.
However I don't think any person now-a-days could stay a "superhero" for long or at least be as honest and faultless as they are. if you had all the money in the world and you bought/created the highest of hightech stuff just for arguments sake and exploding bat-grenade it would only be a matter of weeks/months at best until you used it to blow open the side of a building and take whatever you wanted because in all honesty you couldn't be stopped could you.

That's such a flimsy arguement. Not everyone is that greedy and self centered. Nor is everyone that stupid. Having grenades doesn't make you unstoppable.

Even if there were counter foes that kept you on the good side they would be stopped and during the times of peace you would be tempted to do whatever you pleased.

Why? Having hand to hand combat training and a few weapons doesn't mean you have super powers. You're still pretty much a normal human being. The power can't go to yout head because you really don't have much.

Lets be fair no one can resist temptation.

That's not true at all. Human beings are capable of resisting temptation.

Lets say you had a super power instead of all the money in the world, and lets say that your power was to turn invisible. well sure that would be cool stop a bank robber here and there. That gets boring then you see a beautiful lady next store to you but she's married does that stop you from sleeping with her?? it wouldn't stop me I know that much.

How would turning invisible enable you to get laid easily? Or are you talking about raping the aformentioned woman? If that's the case, and you're saying that you would be fully willing to rape someone of you could get away with it, then I must say: **** you.

What I am trying to say is that we are humans and humans will get over zealous with the power it would go straight to our heads. so I think NO! there can only be super villains no real superheros

Again, what power? Being a neighborhood vigilante with a few toys is not power by any streach of the imagination.

 

[donaldthe3rd]

lol the truth is outt:

 

[atreestump]

OMFG!!! it was just an example any kind of superpower people would use to self advantage if you think that you would only use a certain power for good and only good. then you are just a very nieve person. If you had the chance to rob a bank or kill a person that maybe wronged you in some horrible way nothing not even your morals could stop you even though it may be the right thing to do it is a law of nature eventually you will use whatever power you have for your own good. Lets call this the harsh reality of human nature. To help show that people are essentially self-seeking except when acting under social constraints, Glaucon tells a story about an ancestor of a man who was apparently known to him and socrates, Gyges the Lydian (pronounced "guy-jeez"). In the tale, this ancestor of Gyges is a shepard in service to a king. He finds a magic ring in a cave that makes him invisible. As soon as he discovers the power of the ring. "he at once arranged to become one of the messengers of the king. He then went, commited adultery with the kings wife attacked the king with her help killed him and took over the kingdom" the moral of the story quickly follows: " Now if there were two such rings, one worn by the man, the other by the unjust, no one... would be so incorruptible that he would stay on the path of justice or bring himseldf to keep away from other peoples property. This, some say, is a great proof that no one is just willingly but only under compulsion" (Republic 360b-e) This is taken from superheroes and philosophy Great great book this passage is taken from page 155 part 3 Chp.12 Why are superheroes good...

 

[donaldthe3rd]

Well its all really up to yourself to decide if you want to take a path of heroism and good doing or take a dark criminal path. There is no studying needed, no tests or morals, its up to yourself and only yourself to decide which to take. As for why are super-heroes so good, not all of them are good, Punisher (not really a hero or a villain) would help someone in desperate distress but also would blow up a building if someone he needed to kill was inside. And still the fact that you said you would rape the woman next door is quite revolting.

 

[atreestump]

Well its all really up to yourself to decide if you want to take a path of heroism and good doing or take a dark criminal path. There is no studying needed, no tests or morals, its up to yourself and only yourself to decide which to take. As for why are super-heroes so good, not all of them are good, Punisher (not really a hero or a villain) would help someone in desperate distress but also would blow up a building if someone he needed to kill was inside. And still the fact that you said you would rape the woman next door is quite revolting.

ok prick that was an example I never said I would rape a chick at all that wasn't at all what I was refering to that was only imagined in your sick mind I said that some may sleep with a girl next door if they can turn invisible. think about it she wants you but she can't risk getting caught with you for her marriages sake. you can turn invisible your in your out no body knows. It was only an example GOT IT!!!

 

[donaldthe3rd]

No actually i dont. Thats not what you at all whe you first mention turning invisible and sleeping with the woman next door. What you were talking about is rape, not trying to help an unfaithful wife cheat on her husband. So as far as Im concered if you are that willing to do so to someone then **** yout:

 

[donaldthe3rd]

No actually i dont. Thats not what you at all whe you first mention turning invisible and sleeping with the woman next door. What you were talking about is rape, not trying to help an unfaithful wife cheat on her husband. So as far as Im concered if you are that willing to do so to someone then **** yout: cuz thats just sick

 

[atreestump]

No I never mentioned or intended rape. I guess it was just too vague for your sick mind to comprehend I'm sorry I confused you, I hope it didn't hurt too bad.

 

[The Question]

OMFG!!! it was just an example any kind of superpower people would use to self advantage if you think that you would only use a certain power for good and only good. then you are just a very nieve person. If you had the chance to rob a bank or kill a person that maybe wronged you in some horrible way nothing not even your morals could stop you even though it may be the right thing to do it is a law of nature eventually you will use whatever power you have for your own good.

I disagree very strongly. If I had the power to rob a bank and get away with it, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't.

No I never mentioned or intended rape. I guess it was just too vague for your sick mind to comprehend I'm sorry I confused you, I hope it didn't hurt too bad.

Don't be rude. The way you worded your example was so vague that it made it seem like you couldn't be talking about anything other than rape.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

No I never mentioned or intended rape. I guess it was just too vague for your sick mind to comprehend I'm sorry I confused you, I hope it didn't hurt too bad.

Did it hurt when your mom dropped you on your head all those times? Or did the nerves die off before she was done?

 

[donaldthe3rd]

Thanks for your support The Question and Mistress Gluon, and atreestump next time just try and make sure you don't make it sound that way. Maybe you didnt intend to do it, but just becareful cuz sum ppl might take it offensive.

 

[Enriquespy]

Of ccouse I would use superpowers to my benefit!!! but not turn EVIL..

Spiderman use them to get cool photos, and to swing around her GF, thats personal benefit right? no need to go grotesque....