It Lounges - Part 125

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Sorry, man. Trust me tho. That 20 minute battle is nothing but 20 minutes of ****ing awesomeness so there is so so so many more awesome moments that I havent spoiled for you.:)

Which episode are you on? So ill know which stuff is spoiler territory for you.

Can't wait. I think I'm free all day Sunday to watch the whole season (to date) in one go. I already watched the first 3 but will rewatch as it's been a while.
 
GRRM's idea was to take a warts and all approach to fantasy. Like, you still have people performing great deeds of valor, nobility etc. You also have the consequences of their actions without the sanitization that robs said deeds of their humanity (and makes them a tad bland, for me). It seems to be working well for HBO, at the moment. Theatrically, I think a PG-13 release would be the wiser choice with a director's cut release on dvd.

George Martin recently spoke up about the rape in the series:

George R R Martin said:
I’m writing about war, which what almost all epic fantasy is about. But if you’re going to write about war, and you just want to include all the cool battles and heroes killing a lot of orcs and things like that and you don’t portray [sexual violence], then there’s something fundamentally dishonest about that. Rape, unfortunately, is still a part of war today. It’s not a strong testament to the human race, but I don’t think we should pretend it doesn’t exist."

So cutting out the violence and rape would be going against one of the fundamentals of Martin's fantasy. He goes on to say about the rape and treatment of the women in Westeros:

"The books reflect a patriarchal society based on the Middle Ages", Martin told the site. "The Middle Ages were not a time of sexual egalitarianism...and they had strong ideas about the roles of women. One of the charges against Joan of Arc that got her burned at the stake was that she wore men’s clothing—that was not a small thing. There were, of course, some strong and competent women. It still doesn’t change the nature of the society. And if you look at the books, my heroes and viewpoint characters are all misfits. They’re outliers. They don’t fit the roles society has for them. They’re ‘cripples, bastards, and broken things‘—a dwarf, a fat guy who can’t fight, a bastard, and women who don’t fit comfortably into the roles society has for them (though there are also those who do—like Sansa and Catelyn)."


A common counter-argument is that Martin is writing fantasy. If his books can include fantastical elements such as dragons and white walkers, doesn't the 'it's all based in history' argument fall short?

“Just because you put in dragons doesn’t mean you can put in anything you want", said Martin. "If pigs could fly, then that’s your book. But that doesn’t mean you also want people walking on their hands instead of their feet. If you’re going to do [a fantasy element], it’s best to only do one of them, or a few. I wanted my books to be strongly grounded in history and to show what medieval society was like, and I was also reacting to a lot of fantasy fiction. Most stories depict what I call the ‘Disneyland Middle Ages’—there are princes and princesses and knights in shining armor, but they didn’t want to show what those societies meant and how they functioned."

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/04/george-rr-martin-on-violence-against-women-in-game-of-thrones?utm_source=IGN%20hub%20page&utm_medium=IGN%20(front%20page)&utm_content=19&utm_campaign=Blogroll

What it comes down to is if a person wants a pg-13 Game of Thrones then Game of Thrones simply isn't for them. They need to stick with Middle-Earth or Narnia.
 
A lot of the current criticism and controversy seems really....reactionary and not well thought out. Like I can understand people being against Sansa being in that entire situation and as a change from the books and what it means for her character, but some of the criticisms just seem dumb and poorly thought out to me. There's the whole gender argument that comes into that has no place in that situation.
 
I'm still waiting for the inevitable Mr. Freeze voice over for the Night's King.
 
Kane has been working on it for centuries.
 
A lot of the current criticism and controversy seems really....reactionary and not well thought out. Like I can understand people being against Sansa being in that entire situation and as a change from the books and what it means for her character, but some of the criticisms just seem dumb and poorly thought out to me. There's the whole gender argument that comes into that has no place in that situation.

I imagine most people who are complaining about the scene either A) Didn't watch it and heard about it second hand, B) Didn't watch the show up until that point and only watched that scene or C) Really don't get what GoT is about.

****ing casuals. :argh:
 
They all need to follow Bryan Fuller's advice an be cool
 
I hope every episode from now on has a similar scene.
 
they all need to realize who the real hero is.

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Again, what the whole of Westeros really needs is... An Industrial Revolution and the rise of the Proletariat.
 
Westeros needs one thing and one thing only. Mads.
 
I actually wonder what one "kingdom" having a supply of the necessary ingredients for gun powder would do to the balance of power on GoT? "Oh... I see... Dragons... That's cute."
 
Mads or Medication? :o

If the Mad King had taken his Meds none of the stuff that went down with Ned's sister would have happened and then, where would we be? I'll tell you where... On the road to a proper Industrial Revolution and a rise of the Proletariat.
 
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Season 6
 
Hey now, Mads is busy with Hannibal. You leave him be.

Unless NBC goes full ****** and cancels it. Then he can join up.
 
If the Mad King had taken his Meds none of the stuff that went down with Ned's sister would have happened and then, where would we be? I'll tell you where... On the road to a proper Industrial Revolution and a rise of the Proletariat.

Eh, they've had 4 thousand years to master industry. It didn't happen for Valyria, it ain't gonna happen for Westeros. Glorious feudal systems for everyone!
 
Well if you had to worry about ice monsters, the undead, dragons, incestuous royalty and constant war world wide then you wouldn't make many advances either. :o
 
We also have places that don't have that every day for thousands of years constantly. That lets us mess with technology and get a bit ahead.
 
That's because we put complete idiots into office and let our system get corrupt...

Just like GoT.
 
Plus, we keep just lettin' the apes/monkeys get smarter and smarter. That's gonna bite on the ass one day. "OOh... So cute. The chimp is riding a horse and learning how to cook. So funny. Hahaha..."

Yeah, it won't be funny when that chimp is drinking human blood out of your skull after the rise of the simians.

Bah... Who'll listen to an old man like me, anyway?
 
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