Fant4stic "It's Clobberin' Time!" - The Ben "Thing" Grimm Thread

[SpideyFan866]

I really love Jamie Bell, he's such an underrated, and underutilized talent.

Great choice.

He can't sound like thing, therefore he is a bad choice.

 

[Sawyer]

He can't sound like thing, therefore he is a bad choice.

Please tell me that's sarcasm.

 

[JP]

When I think of a rough and gruff New Yawker with a grizzled voice....the first thing that pops into my head is Jamie Bell.

I'd like to think there was more to Ben Grimm than made-up stereotypes.

 

[BETArayBill]

I'd like to think there was more to Ben Grimm than made-up stereotypes.

Whys that a sterotype if that is how the character is in the comics.

 

[JP]

It's just a NYC stereotype that I hate in every movie I've ever seen. It doesn't exist. Maybe in the 60s... not today.

 

[BETArayBill]

It's just a NYC stereotype that I hate in every movie I've ever seen. It doesn't exist. Maybe in the 60s... not today.

Ya no one says he has to have a heavy new york accent but i can see where a skinny british kid playing a football star jewish moutain of a man would piss some people off

 

[C. Lee]

I'd like to think there was more to Ben Grimm than made-up stereotypes.

For 50 years...Ben Grimm has been portrayed in the comics as.....a New Yorker and damn proud of it....a New Yorker with an exaggerated accent that he is damn proud of....having a rough and gruff personality (with times of tenderness) who has constant fights with the Yancy Street Gang and flies off the handle and breaks things......those are the EXISTING stereotypes of the character.

If you want to watch a movie of people with the superpowers that the Fantastic Four have but who don't act or look anything like they have been described for the last 50 years (and just in case you or others don't know it...I have actually read them for 50 years...I will be 57 years old in a couple of months)....then fine for you...but don't complain about how I want to see the characters portrayed as I have read them for a half century.

 

[BETArayBill]

For 50 years...Ben Grimm has been portrayed in the comics as.....a New Yorker and damn proud of it....a New Yorker with an exaggerated accent that he is damn proud of....having a rough and gruff personality (with times of tenderness) who has constant fights with the Yancy Street Gang and flies off the handle and breaks things......those are the EXISTING stereotypes of the character.

If you want to watch a movie of people with the superpowers that the Fantastic Four have but who don't act or look anything like they have been described for the last 50 years (and just in case you or others don't know it...I have actually read them for 50 years...I will be 57 years old in a couple of months)....then fine for you...but don't complain about how I want to see the characters portrayed as I have read them for a half century.

 

[Spider-Fan]

For 50 years...Ben Grimm has been portrayed in the comics as.....a New Yorker and damn proud of it....a New Yorker with an exaggerated accent that he is damn proud of....having a rough and gruff personality (with times of tenderness) who has constant fights with the Yancy Street Gang and flies off the handle and breaks things......those are the EXISTING stereotypes of the character.

If you want to watch a movie of people with the superpowers that the Fantastic Four have but who don't act or look anything like they have been described for the last 50 years (and just in case you or others don't know it...I have actually read them for 50 years...I will be 57 years old in a couple of months)....then fine for you...but don't complain about how I want to see the characters portrayed as I have read them for a half century.

Hey, remember when they ditched the dated stereotypes for that Doctor Doom guy, and instead of us getting a deep, dictatorial character with an army of robots, his own country, and intellect that rivals Reed Richards and we instead got the more modern Norman Osborn rip-off with Electro's powers? Yeah, totally better they ditched that stereotype

The character worked for 50 years for a reason.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

Kirby grew up in New York slums. He knew what he was talking about.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

lol @ 'made-up stereotypes'

I'm beginning to realize that some of these people don't in fact want a Fantastic Four movie at all. They want an original property dressed up in FF trappings. Why else would they be calling for everything about the FF to be altered to the point of unrecognizability? It's... weird.

 

[Ant-manic]

When I think of a rough and gruff New Yawker with a grizzled voice....the first thing that pops into my head is Jamie Bell.

he can do gruff. watch the movie 'Retreat.' he co-stars with Cillian Murphy, and Thandie Newton. he sort of plays the villain of the piece.

 

[psylockolussus]

Jamie Bell is cute and seems like a decent actor but as The Thing, I don't think he is fitting for the role.

 

[<(o_o)>]

Jamie Bell is cute and seems like a decent actor but as The Thing, I don't think he is fitting for the role.

Hopefully Thing will be motion capture cgi & not a suit like the last 2 movies, wouldn't want a short puny looking Thing.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

It is possible that Jamie will just do the mo-cap and a different actor will play Ben Grimm and do the voice.

Just something to consider. I don't think any of us know much more than Jamie Bell is supposedly on board.

 

[Eddie Dean]

The more I think about this choice, the more I like it. With an accent change, I could totally buy him as a New York working man. He's not conventionally attractive, but he's got this rough edge to him that really works. I can actually see a lot of Jack Kirby in him.

 

[JP]

The more I think about this choice, the more I like it. With an accent change, I could totally buy him as a New York working man. He's not conventionally attractive, but he's got this rough edge to him that really works. I can actually see a lot of Jack Kirby in him.

Plus, once he's the Thing, they'll alter his voice much like Hoult's Beast voice.


Actually, it's a lot like Hoult as Beast (who I very much enjoyed in First Class, and looks to have a lot more to explore in DoFP).

 

[EssayM]

Honestly, if they're going with the ultimates version (which I assume they are), I can understand why they might not go with the typical voice. Outside of a period piece, the Michael Chiklis voice just sounds like a cartoon character, and it would really sound weird coming out of a teenager. Given all that, I can understand going in a slightly different direction for the voice. I would prefer him to bulk up a little if they're going to be doing pre-transformation scenes, but other than that this casting doesn't bother me much.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

how is Bells american accent? more specifically can he pull off a NY accent

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

This is the reason I think Jamie Bell is the best news we've heard this week. A dancer like Bell who is skilled at movement can help pull off the kind of moves for the Thing that could make this film something special:

 

[Eddie Dean]

And he's got mo-cap experience!

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

And he's got mo-cap experience!

Exactly! I think that's why they cast him.

 

[Airwings]

Exactly! I think that's why they cast him.

Why didn't they cast Andy Serkis instead, then?

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Why didn't they cast Andy Serkis instead, then?

Serkis is the master of CGI, but he's not a dancer. Bell should be able to add a new dimension.

 

[The Guard]

Plus, Andy Serkis can't do every motion capture movie out there.

Movies take time.