James Bond 007 Films

[The Englishman]

The thing with TND is, that the film is sprinkled with a few good moments in an otherwise lame film. It also doesn't help that Brosnan not just in this film but also in GE and in TWINE has this smug schoolboy attitude where instead of being Bond, he comes off as though he's walking around celebrating he has the part, which is why I think Brosnan's performance in DAD is by far his best. By DAD, Brosnan actually started taking the role more seriously and actually doing his job, it's just a shame his efforts were dwarfed by the abysmal nonsense that Tamohori opted to implement.

Favourite Bond girls is easily Fiona Vole. Fiona is just raw sexiness to the core. The Italian accent, the scenes with Connery in the bathroom and in the bed, hell even the scene with her and Duval when you first see her are sensual; then there's her motorbike scene. Blood rushing stuff.

Well Bond in the novels has always been smug and a bit of a snob. In a way, Bond was like Bond in the novels in that you can actually Brosnan's Bond as being high class, going to operas, going to jazz clubs among other things.

Brosnan was a great blend of movie and novel Bond.

Yeah Parker Wayne i get what your saying but i think Ajendo nailed what i dont like about Brosnan in TND, plus i always find that hes' talking in a weird trans-atlantic accent as well. I dont agree about GoldenEye though, i thought he was very good in that movie.

 

[The Batman]

Ursula was pretty useless. I mean she's hot as hell. But I agree with Parker. Her iconic introduction and her being the first gets her alot of the recognition.

But Jane Seymour in LALD. Holy crap. Jane Semour today. Holy crap.

Agreed. On Both Counts.

Its insane how good looking Seymour was in LALD

 

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah I know. The fact she's still hot as hell today says alot. Man, I wish all women aged like her.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Yeah Parker Wayne i get what your saying but i think Ajendo nailed what i dont like about Brosnan in TND, plus i always find that hes' talking in a weird trans-atlantic accent as well. I dont agree about GoldenEye though, i thought he was very good in that movie.

Goldeneye is and always Brosnan's best outing as Bond. Many people have said why so I'm going to get into detail about that. I'll just say that this film and TWINE (and the first 10-15 minutes of DAD) were all great character driven films that put character first over action.

Unfortunately, actress choices and stupid plot developments ruined TWINE and DAD.

Tomorrow Never Dies had some great action but that was it. But Like Quatum of Solace, another Bond follow up to a Martin Campbell Bond film, it was more action oriented and the characters suffered for it.

I really wish Martin Campbell made more than one Bond film both outings. Imagine if he kept doing Brosnan Bond films. Brosnan would've probably gotten his wish and gotten the "Casino Royale" like Bond film that Brosnan and Campbell always wanted.

Some people don't know this, but Brosnan always wanted to make a Bond film like Casino Royale but the studios didn't want a dark and grittier Bond film after the The Living Daylight underperformed financially in theaters despite being praised by critics.

I'm just glad that they're getting skilled directors like Mendes instead of crappy tv action directors to direct Bond film.

 

[The Executioner]

Goldeneye is and always Brosnan's best outing as Bond. Many people have said why so I'm going to get into detail about that. I'll just say that this film and TWINE (and the first 10-15 minutes of DAD) were all great character driven films that put character first over action.

Unfortunately, actress choices and stupid plot developments ruined TWINE and DAD.

Tomorrow Never Dies had some great action but that was it. But Like Quatum of Solace, another Bond follow up to a Martin Campbell Bond film, it was more action oriented and the characters suffered for it.

I really wish Martin Campbell made more than one Bond film both outings. Imagine if he kept doing Brosnan Bond films. Brosnan would've probably gotten his wish and gotten the "Casino Royale" like Bond film that Brosnan and Campbell always wanted.

Some people don't know this, but Brosnan always wanted to make a Bond film like Casino Royale but the studios didn't want a dark and grittier Bond film after the The Living Daylight underperformed financially in theaters despite being praised by critics.

I'm just glad that they're getting skilled directors like Mendes instead of crappy tv action directors to direct Bond film.

That sucks cause Brosnan is a good actor and was the 2nd best Bond, so a dark and grittier Bond film under him would of been great, especialy Casino Royale. I love the dark and grity Bond, to me thats how he should be in films.

 

[Kurosawa]

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Michelle Yeoh as a great Bond girl, every scene she shares with bond is awesome, she is actually a secret agent too! and can kicka de ass.
That bit where they go down the side of the building is tense, i love those moments, you know it's a movie, but you can't help but bite your couch. and the motorcycle chase is great fun, superb shot of them jumping over the copter too, and all of her martial arts scenes are top notch natch.

Everything about Michelle Yeoh is awesome to me.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Brosnan's best contribution to the Bond franchise was that third-person game with Willem Dafoe. That game was friggin' sweet.

 

[Ajendo]

Brosnan was a great blend of movie and novel Bond.

We're not watching the same films it seems. There is nothing particularly flemming-esque about Brosnan's portrayal. Brosnan was a blend of the actors that came before him.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

We're not watching the same films it seems. There is nothing particularly flemming-esque about Brosnan's portrayal. Brosnan was a blend of the actors that came before him.

I wouldn't say nothing, but Brosnan's Bond I felt was particularly high class. Thats probably it. I felt like Dalton and Craig were the most Flemming-esque of all the Bonds.

 

[Visceral]

Its hard to judge Bronson's portrayal as the films had started to vere farther from the source material, of course, the performance would suffer from the entire production not being on course.

 

[Harry_Lime02]

Some people don't know this, but Brosnan always wanted to make a Bond film like Casino Royale but the studios didn't want a dark and grittier Bond film after the The Living Daylight underperformed financially in theaters despite being praised by critics.

I did hear that. I think for Casino Royale to work, they had to change the actor and start their own fresh continuity with its own rules. Would Casino Royale have been better with Brosnan instead of Craig? Absolutely not, IMO.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I did hear that. I think for Casino Royale to work, they had to change the actor and start their own fresh continuity with its own rules. Would Casino Royale have been better with Brosnan instead of Craig? Absolutely not, IMO.

I agree with the part about them having to change in order have a fresh continuity, but who's to say that Brosnan wouldn't have been better? Brosnan's also a very good actor along with Craig. I'm not saying he would be better, but I'm just saying that I wouldn't wouldn't make judgement call on who would've been better for Casino Royale.



This conversation has me thinking. What Bond actors would be better for other Bond films? Doesn't have to be better than the Bond who star in it, but would just do great in the role. Here's my list:


Sean Connery - OHMSS (Of course)
Timothy Dalton - A View to a Kill
Roger Moore - Diamonds are Forever
Timothy Dalton - Goldeneye
Timothy Dalton or Daniel Craig - From Russia With Love
Daniel Craig - Thunderball
George Lazenby - Goldfinger
Sean Connery - Casino Royale
Pierce Brosnan - You Only Live Twice

 

[Harry_Lime02]

Timothy Dalton or Daniel Craig - From Russia With Love

Good call.

I think Dalton and Craig are the most compatible Bonds. In particular, I think of Licence To Kill and Quantum Of Solace as kindred spirits. Both times Bond is looking to avenge someone close to him, and alienating himself from MI6.

Diamonds Are Forever could've - and perhaps should've - been a Dalton-style searching for vengeance film, but that element of the film was pretty much gone after the first scene.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Timothy Dalton or Daniel Craig - From Russia With Love
Daniel Craig - Thunderball

No NO NOO!!!

Sir Sean was perfect in those. You can't do better than perfect.

 

[ChickenScratch]

We're not watching the same films it seems. There is nothing particularly flemming-esque about Brosnan's portrayal. Brosnan was a blend of the actors that came before him.

Yup. His portrayal seemed like a condensation of those who came before him (with not nearly enough Dalton thrown in).

 

[The Executioner]

I like them to do over Diamonds Are Forever in the future for a Bond film.

 

[ChickenScratch]

If they do it right, the book had some serious menace, a nice ranch, trains, horse racing, some nice drinking with Felix, some social issues about Africa and diamond smuggling. The movie ... not so fun.

I swear, for me I love reading Bond when Felix or Tanner are there. Two characters that seem to make James pop.

 

[The Executioner]

^ Thats why I said they need to redo Diamonds Are Forever and include all the good stuff out the book. That can be the next Bond film after they fix this whole mess they in now. Can be a nice way to begin a new era in Bond with a new James Bond actor.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I wouldn't have a problem with that. Just as long as they don't redo FRWL and Goldfiner or Dr. No then I'm good. But I have a feeling they will do it eventually.

 

[The Executioner]

Just the bad Bond movies that was based off the novels they should only redo. Like Live and Let Die they should remake that awell.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Just the bad Bond movies that was based off the novels they should only redo. Like Live and Let Die they should remake that awell.

In my opinion that's pretty much all of them excluding CR, OHMSS, Dr No, FRWL, AVTAK.

As I always said, if they ever did it as a series on like BBC where each book was adapted properly and given the right period setting, done in order then it could rule. We could see Bond all the way through from younger agent, to seasoned vet, to broken man, to brainwashed killer. Also having the same supporting cast, crew and writers would make for consistency the movies never had.

After someone had posted that video of the SFX from John Adams I could totally see the whole production being done with such a method to cut cost. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTUs7hDq2PA

 

[Ajendo]

To be fair, most of the Bond movies are remakes of each other really. I'm all for using the source material more and implementing unused concepts however, I dont ever want to see a Bond movie with the same title as a previous Bond movie. I swear if they ever did what the new GE game is doing with the movies, there would be serious hell to pay.

 

[spidey-dude]

i disagree - adapt the book properly with the book name, regardless if its been done before - chronological order too so live and let die next please

 

[ChickenScratch]

To be fair, most of the Bond movies are remakes of each other really. I'm all for using the source material more and implementing unused concepts however, I dont ever want to see a Bond movie with the same title as a previous Bond movie. I swear if they ever did what the new GE game is doing with the movies, there would be serious hell to pay.

I have no problem with them using the names again. Consider that if it's done the way I said it would be done as TV movies or mini-series so it would not step on EON's toes since they have their own continuity (if you can call it that) going. Besides, many of those names go with stories nobody's seen yet, or are names not even used right (like how From A View To A Kill became A View To A Kill).

Besides, how many times have literary adaptations been made using the same name. War Of The Worlds, Journey To The Center Of The Earth, Emma, most of Shakespeare's cannon as well as Sherlock Holmes.

 

[The Executioner]

In my opinion that's pretty much all of them excluding CR, OHMSS, Dr No, FRWL, AVTAK.

As I always said, if they ever did it as a series on like BBC where each book was adapted properly and given the right period setting, done in order then it could rule. We could see Bond all the way through from younger agent, to seasoned vet, to broken man, to brainwashed killer. Also having the same supporting cast, crew and writers would make for consistency the movies never had.

After someone had posted that video of the SFX from John Adams I could totally see the whole production being done with such a method to cut cost. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTUs7hDq2PA

What do you mean right period setting? Thought thats the only thing they been tackling well over the years with Bond. We not talking 1800s England are we with proper time setting? And I would like to see that order of younger agent to brainwash killer Bond, it seems interesting. Now I never read the novels but when was Bond a broken man and brainwashed killer?