James Cameron's "Avatar" Thread v.3

[Kane52630]

I dont think people will agree with me but I do think Avatar is up there with original Star Wars in the sense of pop culture, if you look at the "Avatards" and the cosplay and the multiple releases and dvd/bluray releases it matches Star wars.

 

[dark_b]

i think you need to give a movie or franchise at least 10 years to see if they are close to SW.

IMO

 

[Kane52630]

i think you need to give a movie or franchise at least 10 years to see if they are close to SW.

IMO

yeah I know but I do feel it being this generations Star Wars

 

[Soapy]

It will definitely take time to see if it gets there, but so far I agree.

A lot of movies in the last 10+ years have been billed as "the next Star Wars" but I feel like much of that felt very manufactured by studios and the like. The financial success and popularity that Avatar has achieved seems genuine to me and not forced.

 

[Heretic]

Nothing comes close to the impact Star Wars has had on pop culture...and it will take a least a decade to see if Avatar even comes close. I wonder how popular Avatar costumes will be at Halloween...

 

[terry78]

People are always calling something the new "whatever." Hell, even Nolan and his films are the new "whatever." The problem is that we can't just call **** impressive on its own with comparing it to a previous thing.

 

[Matt]

The only franchise of the past ten years so far that could even be argued to be in the league of Star Wars, is Harry Potter, I think.

 

[Soapy]

People are always calling something the new "whatever." Hell, even Nolan and his films are the new "whatever." The problem is that we can't just call **** impressive on its own with comparing it to a previous thing.

It's just shorthand.

Saying "Movie X will be the next Star Wars" is a just more concise way of saying "Movie X is going to be incredibly popular and financially successful and become a pop culture phenomenon for years to come."

 

[Ipodman]

What Avatar needs to be the next Star Wars are more creative characters and a "Darth Vader" character...

 

[Kane52630]

Nothing comes close to the impact Star Wars has had on pop culture...and it will take a least a decade to see if Avatar even comes close. I wonder how popular Avatar costumes will be at Halloween...

people were actually dressed as Navi's last Halloween, before the movie even came out

 

[Matt]

What Avatar needs to be the next Star Wars are more creative characters and a "Darth Vader" character...

VERY valid point.

 

[redhawk23]

Star Wars is this generations star wars. lol

kind of random tangent, but Lucas was critisized a bunch back in 02 for filming attack of the clones completely digitally ( which i think that was a first if I remember correctly) This is now becoming fairly common, especially for lower budget movies. just thought it was interestig.

 

[Soapy]

Well, to be fair the digital backdrops in Clones and even in Sith look really bad at times.

 

[Matt]

Yeah, the technology has improved a lot. Back at the turn of the decade when Lucas was filming AOTC, it just wasn't there yet.

 

[Mogwai]

i see this series being more of this generation's 'jurassic park' rather than 'star wars.'

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

i see this series being more of this generation's 'jurassic park' rather than 'star wars.'

I agree.

As an above poster said, the closest thing of being the next Star Wars is Harry Potter and "we" are being generous because I doubt HP will have the same status as SW 25 years later.

 

[Octoberist]

My problem with the CGI backdrops in the prequels was that a lot of them were nearly lifeless & empty. There were a number of times when in Attack of the Clones at the Jedi Cousil building when I thought that. There would be a giant, vast background with..12 people walking about.

 

[Octoberist]

I agree.

As an above poster said, the closest thing of being the next Star Wars is Harry Potter and "we" are being generous because I doubt HP will have the same status as SW 25 years later.

Star Wars is more character based, I'd say. So Harry Potter fits that.

 

[:eek:]

What Avatar needs to be the next Star Wars are more creative characters and a "Darth Vader" character...

... and then a lot of people would complain that Cameron is copying Star Wars.

And the question is if he needs a "Darth Vader character" to tell the story he wants to tell?

 

[Kane52630]

... and then a lot of people would complain that Cameron is copying Star Wars.

And the question is if he needs a "Darth Vader character" to tell the story he wants to tell?

exactly, It doesnt need to follow exactly the same guidelines as Star Wars

 

[Soapy]

My problem with the CGI backdrops in the prequels was that a lot of them were nearly lifeless & empty. There were a number of times when in Attack of the Clones at the Jedi Cousil building when I thought that. There would be a giant, vast background with..12 people walking about.

Totally. They're so static and there's nothing really going on. I would say it looks like a video game, but most top shelf games have a much better ambiance than the prequels.

 

[Kane52630]

is anyone going to see it in theaters when it comes out? for me I think ill just wait for the bluray to come out

 

[Kane52630]

I just made a new thread just in time when this thread gets locked

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=340533

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

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