James Cameron's "Avatar" Thread v.4

[Passdom]

Damn, Jake gets decked in the face with his own wheelchair. OUCH.

Love the really audible "OW" you can hear from the audience, lol

 

[dark_b]

Jake Sully IS Forrest Gump

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_jqzHWfxXE

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

OMG they used a CGI body for Jake and used hes real head to match with the CGI neytiri and the live action set. now it makes sense.it makes sense because there is no way to match the live action body with a CGI neytiri and have all shadows and occlusion perfect.

Thats amazing, always wondered how they did that part.

 

[dark_b]

[YT]9mXsNFyl6hs[/YT]

better quality http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/10/19/avatar-deleted-scene-future-earth-bar-brawl/

he throws the wheelchair on him

 

[<(o_o)>]

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

Now then, while we're talking Fox... the studio has informed us that there are brand new bonus features you can access on your original Avatar Blu-ray via BD-Live right now, today. If you have a BD-Live capable player with a network connection, when you insert your disc into the player a LIVE EXTRAS option will appear in the main menu. If you select this, new content will quickly download, allowing you to access preview video clips from the forthcoming Avatar: Collector's Edition Blu-ray. Among the videos you can watch now are a clip from a new CE extended scene (part of Jake's bar fight from the alternate - and I think much better - opening to the film), a clip from the CE's User's Guide for Avatar Deleted Scenes, and a Kauai clip from one of of the documentaries on the new set. Two more exclusive preview clips will be available on 10/26, two more on 11/2 and three more on 11/9. You'll get more exclusive new content each week leading up to the 11/16 release of the Collector's Edition itself. And you can chose to either download the clips to your player in high quality, or stream them for faster access. I've watched it myself today and it's pretty cool stuff. Do check it out.

 

[dark_b]

http://www.collider.com/2010/11/02/james-cameron-jon-landau-avatar-special-edition-blu-con-2010/

they show the hunt scene.

its funny how Neytiri says '' hell yeah''

 

[dark_b]

the Sturmbeest hunt scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db7oWPfG-3I

 

[Passdom]

the Sturmbeest hunt scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db7oWPfG-3I

I still find it funny that a scene like that can end up as a deleted scene in a James Cameron movie, to him its no big deal

 

[Marx]

I finally saw this tonight and I have to admit, it was a pretty good movie.

 

[Passdom]

taken from blu-ray forum

List of everything added to Extended Edition (re-ordered it myself):

- Scenes 002-019 "Earth"/
- Scene 39 "Herd" /
- Scenes 44-45 "The Schoolhouse"/
- Scene 60 "Purple Moss"/
- Scene 64 alt 1 "I Don't Even Know Your Name"/
- Scene 69A "Sylwanin"/
- Scene 81J "What Does Hold Them Up?"/
- Scenes 102, 105 "Extended Montage"/
- Scenes 102, 105, 106, 109 "Alternate Montage with Grace's Story" /
- Scene 112 "Neytiri's Flyby"/
- Scene 121 alt 1 "Sturmbeest Hunt"/
- Scene 151 "Extended Love Scene" /
- Scenes 174-176 "Drums of War"/
- Scene 178 "They Bulldozed a Sacred Site"
- Scene 276 "Tsu'tey's Fall"/
- Scene 282 "Sturmbeest Attack"/
- Scene 332 "Extended Thanator Fight"/
- Scene 348 "The Last Shadow"/

Deleted Scenes:

- Scene 19 "Stingbat Attack" /
- Scene 20 "Pandora Rules" /
- Scene 21 "Jake Meets Norm"-First Cut /
- Scene 26 "Jake Sees Decanted Avatars" /
- Scene 30 "Norm Is A Living God" /
- Scene 35A "Breakfast with the Scientists" /
- Scenes 36A-37 "You're in My World Now" /
- Scene 64 "Grandma's Teylu" /
- Scene 79 "Pied Piper" /
- Scenes 81B-D "Going to the Mountains" /
- Scene 81K "Interspecies Booty Call" /
- Scene 91 "Norm's Attitude Improves" /
- Scenes 93A-98 "Learning Montage Section"-Early Cut /
- Scene C120A "We're Buying Time" /
- Scenes 122-123 "Hunt Festival" /
- Scene 131 "Driving Range" /
- Scenes 131A-148 "The Dreamhunt" /
- Scenes 164-172 "The Challenge" /
- Scenes 174-178 "The Drums of War"-Full Version /
- Scenes 209-211 "Escape" /
- Scene 224A "The Eye of Eywa" /
- Scene 232 "You're a Long Way from Earth" /
- Scenes 235-236 "Battle Camp" /
- Scene 248 "Kick Some Blue Ass" /
- Scene 277 "Wainfleet Kills Norm" /
- Scene 287 "Neytiri Kills Wainfleet"-Alt Wainfleet Death /
- Scenes 288-327 "The Avatars Attack" /
- Scenes 350-351 "New Life"

The two biggest deletions from the movie are the Earth prologue, and "The Dreamhunt" aka Jakes original final ritual. Both take up 18 scenes each out of a total of ~355-360

 

[Kane52630]

awesome news Passdom and im really glad you liked it Marx

btw I just pre-ordered my Collectors edition, cant wait to watch it t:

 

[Passdom]

Youre welcome!

It seems the largest cuts made to the movie were smack dab in the middle.

I wonder how long the movie would have been had Cameron not had to have made cuts in order to fit the movie in IMAX. Supposedly the movie was still around 200 minutes in length in late August 09, three months before the movie was released, and Cameron basically chucked out 40+ minutes in one go.

 

[Marx]

awesome news Passdom and im really glad you liked it Marx

btw I just pre-ordered my Collectors edition, cant wait to watch it t:

...makes me wish I'd seen it in theaters with 3D.

 

[Passdom]

...makes me wish I'd seen it in theaters with 3D.

Im sure the movie will have screenings right before Avatar 2 comes out.

 

[Soapy]

...makes me wish I'd seen it in theaters with 3D.

The 3D was really impressive, but me and everyone I talk to kind of agree it's a better movie without it.

 

[Passdom]

The 3D was really impressive, but me and everyone I talk to kind of agree it's a better movie without it.

Eh, I think its a trade off.

The 3D is really well done, with a lot of really inspired uses of the technology. Its a fantastic experience and not something most people can replicate at home (no 3D TV will ever match Avatar in 3D in a huge IMAX theater)

But the Blu-Ray offers just such a stunning level of clarity and color that you cant get in any theater, 3D or not. And even though its 2D, the movie still has an amazing sense of depth throughout it.

 

[Passdom]

Some script excerpts from the Dream Hunt, the biggest deleted scene from the entire movie:

GRACE
No matter what you prove out there-- you are still in here.
(shaking him)
Right here.

JAKE
I have to go all the way -- become one of them--

GRACE
(furiously)
Goddammit, Jake, you can never be one of them!

Norm looks up, startled at the VEHEMENCE in GRACE&#8217; voice.

GRACE
Our life out there takes millions of dollars of machinery to sustain. You
visit -- and you leave.

During this, Jake pulls himself from his wheelchair, levering
himself into the Link, hauling his useless legs inside.

GRACE
(softening)
You can never truly be with her.

JAKE
But if I tell Quaritch the truth, he
yanks me out -- I never see her again.
And if I tell her the truth, the clan
throws me out -- that&#8217;s if they don&#8217;t cut
my heart out and show it to me.

Jake looks hopelessly at the two of them. In his own perfect
Hell.

MACRO -- AN EARTHEN JAR is opened. EYTUKAN removes a
writhing black ARACHNOID, the Pandoran equivalent of a
scorpion.

He places it against the back of Jake&#8217;s neck and presses. The
insect drives its stinger into Jake&#8217;s skin and --
Jake grimaces. Mo'at and Eytukan step back, leaving Jake
alone in the circle.

Neytiri watches intently, joining in the low chant.

SLOW DOLLY IN on Jake. His eyes OPEN. He looks around at thefaces -- they seem to TRANSFORM, becoming threatening.

Jake looks down at the palms of his hands.

JAKE&#8217;S POV -- his body and hands transforming -- fingers
stretching into tendrils, legs becoming roots which spread
outward across the ground, a thousand glowing dendrites which
connect to the roots of the trees and --

CUT TO REALITY -- Jake is on his hands and knees, PUKING in
the dirt. He contorts, crying out in agony as the venom
contracts his muscles but --

REAL JAKE writhes in the dirt, his back arched as his muscles
seize. He foams and thrashes, his eyes rolled back in his
head, while inside --

Outside of the Earth scene, this was pretty much the most significant deletion from the movie. It would have never made it to the final cut due to length alone, as it would push the movie over its IMAX limit.

Unfortunately, the scene will be presented as a deleted scene with template CG, and wont be finished and included in the extended cut. Im guessing it would have probably cost ~10 mil to complete this scene alone.

 

[dark_b]

fantastic music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWVYZmhObkc&feature=related

 

[dark_b]

Avatar extended love scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrpWdFRcM7o&feature=related

 

[Passdom]

Pictures from Extended Edition blu-ray, courtest of blu-ray.com forum

 

[Donut]

Arnold should do avatar 2 since he is no longer Governor in January. He can tell Navi Jake to get to the choppa

 

[Kane52630]

Blu-Ray Review: Avatar: Three-Disc Blu-Ray Extended Collector's Edition

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-mendelson/blu-ray-review-avatar-thr_b_781645.html

Avatar: 3 Disc Extended Collection

160 min (theatrical), 168 min (special edition re-release), 179 min (extended)
rated PG-13
Available from Fox on Blu-Ray on November 16th

by Scott Mendelson

My original review of the theatrical cut can be found here. For this review, I watched the 179-minute extended cut. It's still the same movie. Most of the new footage is just little bits and pieces, a bit more action here, a longer flight there. There is a six-minute prologue that takes place on Earth, which establishes the environmental damage that the planet has sustained, while also establishing Jake Sully (Sam Worthington) as someone who cannot walk away from someone in peril. It's a bit broad, but it gives us a rooting interest in Sully beyond him simply being the lead character. There are extra moments for Grace (Sigourney Weaver), including a more detailed explanation of why her precious school for Na'vi ended up closing. There is a very brief (and non-explicit) sex scene between Jake and Neytiri (Zoe Saldana). The other big change is a very different finale for Tsu'tey (Laz Alonso). Oh, he still gets his powerful final stand and subsequent death plunge, but... well, you'll have to see for yourself what happens afterward. It's an interesting addition, but I kinda liked the haunting original demise.

None of the additions radically affect the movie. It's still a ripping adventure story that works on a visual and emotional level. The second act still drags a bit, but the pay off is more than worth it. I still love Saldana's fiercely emotional work as Neytiri. I still love the climactic action sequence, a stunning piece of work that rivals the epic warfare in Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings and John Woo's Red Cliff. I still love how company man Parker Selfridge (Giovanni Ribisi) isn't quite as one-dimensional as he appears (he's clearly bothered by the collateral damage, just too weak to do anything about it). I love that the entire film is edited with long, fluid takes that puts the 'put your film in a blender' editing from Paul Greengrass or Ridley and Tony Scott to shame. And for the record, the film works every bit as well in 2D on Blu-Ray as it did in 3D IMAX theaters. Heck, since the film was shot in 3D by someone who knows what he's doing, the entire film has a three-dimensional quality that almost makes it feel like 3D. Truth be told, the only time you miss it is during the occasional obvious 3D bits (creatures flying towards the camera, etc). Avatar was never the greatest film ever made. Sully's on-the-nose expository voice over is more annoying than ever (most of the cheesy dialogue is from the voice over), while Norm Spellman (Joel Moore) and Trudy Chacon (Michelle Rodriguez) are basically irrelevant to the story. But it remains a visually beautiful adventure story with just enough social relevance to make it matter. It's still a damn good movie.

Needless to say, all three cuts on disc 1 look and sound superb. If there is a flaw, it is that the ultra-bright richness of the image diminishes the photo realism that the darkened 3D image helped sell in theaters. But if you simply accept that what you're seeing couldn't possibly be real anyway, it doesn't take you out of the film to any real degree. Oddly enough, the relative simplicity of the core story allows repeat viewers to just scan the image for any number of details that they missed the first time around. It helps that most of the exposition is in the first act, which mainly takes place away from Pandora, which allows viewers to just drink in the visuals in the second and third acts. Assuming the lack of 3D isn't a deal breaker, this is a stunning image. Oh, and Fox earns big bonus points for allowing viewers to simply skip to the new footage in either of the longer cuts, for those who just want to see the new stuff.

Now about those extras. There are a total of just between 7-9 hours of video-based material on the second and third discs (there's a 65 minute feature on disc three that can be watched three different ways). Best of all, there are no unnecessary bells and whistles. It's 7 hours of deleted scenes, marketing materials, and hardcore behind the scenes footage. Plus, you get 15 photo and art galleries (costumes, weapons, locations, etc) and two versions of the screenplay (the original 'scriptment' and the final shooting script). The main attraction is the 67 minutes of rough and unfinished deleted scenes, which adds up to 28 scenes totaling about 45 minutes of new footage. I won't do a run-down of the scenes, as I imagine anyone who wants to buy this disc would prefer to discover them for themselves. But I will note that the best new stuff is from the human characters. We get more guilt for Jake, and more moments of shading for Parker, including a climactic confrontation with Quaritch (Stephen Lang) where he basically attempts to stop the coming genocide. You also get a climactic bit for Dr. Max Patel (Dileep Rao), who in the finished cuts basically vanishes at the start of the third act. I'm not sure the world needs a four-hour cut of Avatar, but there are any number of character beats in this batch of footage that would have improved the picture.
As far as pure documentary footage, here's what you get: There's a 20 minute PSA, which basically details James Cameron's activism in preserving the rain forests. There's a 98 minute documentary covering the making of the film in a general fashion. There's 85 minutes of technical featurettes, mainly dealing with the minutia motion capture processes. And that's just disc two. Disc three starts with 65 minutes of Scene Deconstructions, which allows you to view 17 different scenes in three stages of production (which I guess makes this a 195 minute feature). Anyway, the coolest option is watching the the finished film with the original performances in a small window. It's further proof that the actors in Avatar were giving full-blown performances, and that Zoe Saldana should have received an Oscar nomination. There are also a total of 92 minutes of general featurettes, covering things like editing and the score (minor quibble - there is no PLAY ALL for these featurettes, while every other batch of extras has that option). There are also 15 separate galleries, with art work and production stills and the usual assortment found in such collections. I've never been a fan of walking through these galleries, but those who approve will be in heaven. Finally, as mentioned, there is a grab-bag of stuff, including the film's teaser and trailer, the aforementioned screenplay options, a 449-page Pandora Encyclopedia, and more. I didn't check on everything, but most of this material appears to be in HD.

Aside from the lack of 3D options (and the lack of subtitles on any of the bonus material - boo!), this is as comprehensive a Blu-Ray set as any Avatar fan could hope for. In fact, the only thing I wish was included (aside from a theoretical commentary) was the dynamite interview that James Cameron gave with Charlie Rose back in February. In it, Cameron takes on many of the sillier criticisms of Avatar point by point and renders them more or less impotent. The film remains a terrific adventure, and this disc is a genuine labor of love from all involved. Fox is nice enough to house the set in a sturdy book-like box, which is only slightly taller than a normal Blu-Ray box. This is no monstrous pizza box or giant collector's case that won't fit on any bookshelf here. The film is presented in three different variations, there are nearly an hour of deleted scenes, plus about eight hours of documentary material and about an hour of other goodies, plus scripts and copious still galleries. If you liked Avatar last year, there's no reason not to pick this Blu-Ray set up.

Film: A-
Video: A
Audio: NA (English 2.0 set up)
Extras: A

 

[terry78]

Arnold should do avatar 2 since he is no longer Governor in January. He can tell Navi Jake to get to the choppa

**** that, Arnie should BE a Navi. A big, steroid looking one.

 

[Castro]

Can someone tell me the difference between Special Edition and Collectors extended what not cut?

 

[Passdom]

Can someone tell me the difference between Special Edition and Collectors extended what not cut?

Special Edition = 8 minutes 40 seconds of footage, 99% of which is Na'vi Avatar stuff

Collectors Extended cut = those 8 minutes 40 + aproximately another 8 minutes of scenes with Humans (the new opening on Earth and new scenes with Jake, Grace, etc)