JLA vs avengers

[Bnightwing]

who do u think would win if there was a comic about it dont think about it what do YOU think

 

[hippie_hunter]

Based on current incarnations

Mighty Avengers < Justice League of America < New Avengers

 

[Venom.Symbiote]

I think the JLA would outnumber the Avengers by about 15 to one. I also know that DC overpowers all of their characters and that makes it a very uneven, unfair fight. I'd love to see the Avengers win but I know it won't happen (unless I write the story ).

 

[Roughneck]

^exactly

 

[Roughneck]

Or look at Superboy Prime vs the Teen Titans.

I love Marvel, but DC guys just are too powerful to contend with.

 

[Roughneck]

Also was that pic ever released a s a poster or anything?

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

wasn´t there already a comic about it? maybe 3 or 4 years ago?

 

[LibrarianThorne]

Or look at Superboy Prime vs the Teen Titans.

I love Marvel, but DC guys just are too powerful to contend with.

This line of thinking always bothers me. You're telling me that a team with two demi-gods, an Eternal, the greatest tactician in the universe (as acknowledged by several sources), more than its fair share of bona-fide super geniuses, and (on several occasions) the Incredible Hulk as members is underpowered?

Granted, the JLA has none too few heavy hitters, with three characters in the Superman-class. However, of the usual big seven lineup, only the Flash (Wally West) imbalances things in favor of the Justice League. I'm as big a fan of Big Blue as anybody you'll find on these boards, but Thor has him just beat out (for the same reason that Captain Marvel should beat Superman: when all other physical stats are equal, magic will give them the edge against Superman). Wonder Woman and the Martian Manhunter are also incredibly powerful, but if the Avengers lineup in question is packing the Hulk and the Sentry, it essentially takes the "big bombs" out of both teams for the duration of the fight.

Captain America will beat Batman eventually. Yes, they start out about dead even, but the Super Soldier Serum coursing through Cap's veins keeps his body from being fatigued. Batman doesn't have that. So, in a prolonged engagement, Cap should take Batman down. That leaves just the Green Lantern against whatever else the Avengers can throw at him, and that's going to be a tough job for anyone with an Oan power ring.

Now, don't ge me wrong, this did require an upgunning for the Avengers and a degunning for the JLA (as the Flash is almost unquesitonably the most powerful member of the League). Any way you cut it, though, a matchup like this is going to depend on the lineup of the teams involved. Even taking teams at their absolute peak of power (the Avengers having King Thor and the JLA having Superman One Million), it's really more of a stalemate than anything.

And besides, you woudl in fact need two "Earth's Greatest Heroes" for two Earths, right? So why can't everyone get along?

(Really enjoyed that part of JLAvengers)...

 

[US Agent]

As everybody on here knows, I have said this before that I am NOT a superman fan. But what you said is right on the money.

 

[Darthphere]

As everybody on here knows, I have said this before that I am NOT a superman fan. But what you said is right on the money.

 

[gildea]

how would quicksilver with his new powers fair against the flash?

 

[Darthphere]

Not so good, he doesnt have super speed anymore and Flash would probably evade him.

 

[gildea]

i thought his powers could be used like zooms?

 

[Brainiac 8]

Yea, it's hard to compare the two. The New Avengers wouldn't stand a chance, Superman could take out the entire team, only having a hard time with his more boring Marvel-Clone counterpart. But at that point the rest of the team can give him a hand.

Certain classic lineups would have a better chance, because Thor could give Superman a very hard fight.

All in all though, the power levels are just out of synch, the JLA are just much more powerful all together than the Avengers.

 

[Brainiac 8]

The New Avengers could probably take on the Blue Beetle incarnation of the JLA. Bloodwynd was probably their strongest member at that point.

 

[Darthphere]

i thought his powers could be used like zooms?

In Son of M he used it that way, but it seems he either has choisen not to use it anymore, or he just plain lost it according to the latest X-Factor.

 

[roach]

JLA beats the Nu Avengers

 

[torkibe]

Now, don't ge me wrong, this did require an upgunning for the Avengers and a degunning for the JLA (as the Flash is almost unquesitonably the most powerful member of the League).

I used to think this way too, but Superboy Prime proved that raw power could overcome the speedforce. I think the real x factor in this battle would be the Sentry. None of the current or past members of the Avengers* has ever shown the level of power that Superboy Prime showed in Infinite Crisis, but we have yet to see the Sentry really put to task.

*For the record, I'm not including King Thor or Superman One Million. Neither was really a member of their respective teams when they were at that level

 

[kytrigger]

In Son of M he used it that way, but it seems he either has choisen not to use it anymore, or he just plain lost it according to the latest X-Factor.

Even if he still could use it, I think he would still lose. It would be interesting, but now that Bart has the Speedforce entirely inside of him it could make him just that much more powerful.

 

[samurai black]

i think this question could be answered better if you took 7 of the most powerful members from each team(any incarnation) and then did a vs. thread bc there are heavy hitters, super geniuses,magicians/witches, archers, peak human prep time masters, and speedsters on each side so it's too open to just say who's better without defining exactly who's on which side. for example (this is just mine)

JLA-Superman,Wonder Woman,Martian Manhunter, Flash, Green Lantern (Jordan),Zantanna and The Batman.
VS.
The Avengers-Sentry,Iron Man,The Hulk,Quicksilver, Thor,The Scarlet Witch and Captain America.

With this line-up the edge goes to the JLA. The heavy hitters cancel each other out, but the variable lie in the powers and potential of The Flash and Green Lantern.

 

[Elijya]

Also was that pic ever released a s a poster or anything?

Nope

wasn´t there already a comic about it? maybe 3 or 4 years ago?

Sort of. It was a 4 issue prestige-format miniseries from 2003 entitled JLA/Avengers. The two teams united to fight a common villain who, of course, initially pited them against one another, and there were fight scenes between them, but few official "squared off" moments. Superman did beat Thor, and we saw Quicksilver give the Flash a run for his money after he tapped into the Speed Force. Batman and Captain America squared off and exhanged a few blows, btu then they both acknowledged they were both very good, and decided to instead investigate the villain together. No other fights were given much show time.

And Hawkeye finally gave the punch line to a joke 30 years in the making

 

[samurai black]

And Hawkeye finally gave the punch line to a joke 30 years in the making

Which was?

 

[Horrorfan]

New Avengers. Sentry could probably take the JLA on his own.

And this sort of has happened in marvel continuity...of course its not official, but since the squadron supreme are pretty much the jla...the squadron put up a great fight but the avengers have taken them twice afaik, and it was done very plausibly too. So I kinda cout them as jla vs avengers, even though its not officially, we all know it is supposed to be.

 

[torkibe]

New Avengers. Sentry could probably take the JLA on his own.

You can't really say that. Up until now his powers have been pure specualtion. Not to mention, he hasn't fought any magicians or Psychics, so we don't really know how vulnerable he would be to them.

 

[Darthphere]

Theres no magician or psychics on the current JLA team.