Marvel vs DC, Who up against who?

[TheCorpulent1]

I can see your point but you know the way IM is right now, you'd never see him lose to GL. Whenever they meet in comics, whether it was JLA/Avengers 2000s or the JLA/Avengers mini in the 90s when they went up against Darkseid and Magneto, it has always come out a draw......or GL just losing to an inferior opponent. IM is almost top tier now and I can't see them letting him lose to GL. Though I was shocked by Thor losing to Supes.

I wasn't shocked that he lost. I was shocked that his loss was written so piss-poorly, though. Busiek's got a long record of making Thor look like a *****.

 

[Phenomenal]

Yeah, they're kind of on different playing fields, though. Galactus is powerful, but he's not universe-crushing powerful. The Celestials and plenty of other beings right in Marvel's own universe are more powerful than he is.

Well Corpulent, you seem not to be bias if only these fanboys would understand that Galactus isn't the end all of Marvel. They say Galactuse can crush a universe they say he is more powerful than a Celestial..

I wasn't shocked that he lost. I was shocked that his loss was written so piss-poorly, though. Busiek's got a long record of making Thor look like a *****.

Preach...Preach!

 

[CBG]

Well Corpulent, you seem not to be bias if only these fanboys would understand that Galactus isn't the end all of Marvel.

That'd be Squirrel Girl.

 

[BrianWilly]

I can see your point but you know the way IM is right now, you'd never see him lose to GL...IM is almost top tier now and I can't see them letting him lose to GL.

Guy in armor, however advanced, is not going to win guy with power to stop supernovas. I'm sorry, I can never understand how this; how do people not realize even today that Green Lantern is a Superman-class cosmic power? Is Iron Man in Superman's range now? No? Then he can't beat Green Lantern, first fight or not.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Iron Man is in Batman's range in mind and more in terms of doing big projects. The GLs are not exactly the brightest bulbs in the galaxy even though they got a lot of hearts, and so there is where IM advantages lie.

 

[yenaled]

How can you call 7900 people collectivly stupid?

 

[chiefchirpa]

Each GL, not gang bang GLs.

 

[BrianWilly]

Tony is about ten million times smarter than the Hulk. In an actual fight between the two, Hulk beats Iron Man pretty much every single time. In an actual fight, brainpower is of limited significance if you are simply and completely outclassed.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Hulk is in another league of GL & IM. And if you read Marvel comics, Iron Man did win some fights against Hulk with sacrifice strike.

 

[BrianWilly]

Right, like how in World War Hulk, Iron Man threw everything he had at the Hulk with an extraordinary amount of prep-time...and still lost and lost big.

I like how you're still suggesting that GL and IM are in the same league. Green Lantern moves planets. Iron Man shoots lasers. Out. Matched. Give it up. In your logic, nerds get to beat jocks. That's simply not the case in any sort of real practice whatsoever.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, technically, one of Iron Man's satellites did take down the Hulk. And SPIN may have even been able to do it sooner if Hardball weren't a moron.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Right, like how in World War Hulk, Iron Man threw everything he had at the Hulk with an extraordinary amount of prep-time...and still lost and lost big.

Tony would have won that fight straight up if not for Hardball's *****ery. And even with that he stood up pretty well considering.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree with the first part, but the second? Really? The Hulk pretty much walked all over him. Hercules did better just standing there trading blows with the Hulk, and he didn't have fancy-shmancy armor the size of a modest house on.

 

[moraldeficiency]

I agree with the first part, but the second? Really? The Hulk pretty much walked all over him. Hercules did better just standing there trading blows with the Hulk, and he didn't have fancy-shmancy armor the size of a modest house on.

I was just saying that Iron Man took the hulk's beating pretty well considering his plan didn't work (batman doesn't have to put up with that ****). No one in the MU could out strength the hulk at that point but tony trades some pretty big hits which IMO would have downed the hulk pre Planet Hulk, so I was pretty impressed with the whole thing. I mean they basically took out Tony's strategy and he still stuck with it to the end, so he get's points on that for being the stand up guy. Besides were talking about a hulk that beat Dr. Strange by mystically breaking his hands???? Reed Richards by punching a guy that cannot be hurt through physical force?????? Same going for Slapstick in AtI??????? And a guy with the power of a kagillion suns or whatever nonsense. Tony was the only guy to proactively come at the hulk and would have won, but when the strategy was taken out he still traded a lot of damage with the hulk, it was just that the hulk was going to walk over everyone regardless because the event was based on the hulk walking over everyone regardless of logic.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, WWH Hulk was pretty ridiculous. Meh. I try to forget about the whole thing and move on.

 

[Hmarrs]

captain america vs. batman??? uh, batman.

Please don't go there.I hear people say this all the time.
Just because they are die-hard Batman fans.
Stats show: Capatian America has been in full scale warfare
He is used to taking out groups of people at one time 20-30 Hydra.
He has had all of 60 somthing plus years experience.
If nothing else he has Super Soldier serum which makes him faster stronger,swifter and more agile.Batman is peak human condition but Captain America has augmented peak Super human condition.
Batman my hit Cap a few times Cap will hit him back in reality it should be more than what Batman can take.If not that at some point Cap will catch him with his shield which in reality should crush his skull.
I'm a Batman fan too but it is what it is.

 

[Hmarrs]

Perhaps I was mistaken lol. Aquaman could just call upon his underwater allies.

I hate that Flash is considered able to beat Quicksilver.
Quicksilver is a mutant in speed he was born with it.
Flash got his powers in an accident.
Even if Flash were faster.Quicksilver should have faster reflexes.
It should be tied up.
Whoever said Aquaman could beat Namor.
Are you serious? Can you see Aquaman going toe to toe with the Huk.
I can't!!!Namor has been there and done that and has even won!!!!
One of the few to have actually beaten Hulk.
Also just for the record Namor can speak and have telepathy with fish.
They havn't shown that much throught they years but it's been done.

 

[Hmarrs]

The reality is winners are picked by popularity.I hate that.They should measure up the stats.

 

[Hmarrs]

Namor's edge is in his brain, not just whether he can call marine creatures or not.

Flash > Quicksilver
Superman > Crazy Sentry, Odinforce Thor, Emperor Hulk > Superman
Lobo > Wolverine
Batman barely > Captain America
Iron Man > Each Green Lantern
Ms Marvel in Binary form > Wonder Woman

Namor fought the Hulk!!!He even won!!!!Where does Aquaman even fit into this equation???!!!!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I hate that Flash is considered able to beat Quicksilver.
Quicksilver is a mutant in speed he was born with it.
Flash got his powers in an accident.
Even if Flash were faster.Quicksilver should have faster reflexes.
It should be tied up.

At the height of his purely speed-based powers--i.e., barring his time-manipulation powers from the Terrigen Crystals--Quicksilver's top speed was only a few times faster than the speed of sound. The Flash, for the bulk of his superhero career, has been able to meet and exceed the speed of light. Reflexes and perceptions included. I don't know what the method by which they acquired their powers has to do with it. The Flash is just much, much faster than Pietro in every way.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Right, like how in World War Hulk, Iron Man threw everything he had at the Hulk with an extraordinary amount of prep-time...and still lost and lost big.

I like how you're still suggesting that GL and IM are in the same league. Green Lantern moves planets. Iron Man shoots lasers. Out. Matched. Give it up. In your logic, nerds get to beat jocks. That's simply not the case in any sort of real practice whatsoever.

Tony threw the final punch (satellite beam) that KO the Hulk in WWH - a one big Hulk jobbing the whole Marvel superheroes story. No other superhero has the honor to do that.

Superman moves planet. Batman can't even move cars. But Batman did beat Superman several times. I don't see the difficulty of handling one average Green Lantern knowing that dozens of them got killed in Sinestro Corps Wars and Iron Man is the leader of the MU earth superhero through his winning ethos.

If Batman can get by the lowliest of the Green Lantern member (and a sizeable # of your DC Bat-fanboy thinks he can even take the man Hal himself), Iron Man can do more. A whole lot more.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Please don't go there.I hear people say this all the time.
Just because they are die-hard Batman fans.
Stats show: Capatian America has been in full scale warfare
He is used to taking out groups of people at one time 20-30 Hydra.
He has had all of 60 somthing plus years experience.
If nothing else he has Super Soldier serum which makes him faster stronger,swifter and more agile.Batman is peak human condition but Captain America has augmented peak Super human condition.
Batman my hit Cap a few times Cap will hit him back in reality it should be more than what Batman can take.If not that at some point Cap will catch him with his shield which in reality should crush his skull.
I'm a Batman fan too but it is what it is.

Even I'm more of a Marvel guy, Batman has things that Cap doesn't have - scientific knowledge & resources. It's hard to go against a guy who can mass produce sleeping gas & flashbangs.

 

[Phenomenal]

That'd be Squirrel Girl.

Yep, she is...That she is.

The Flash, for the bulk of his superhero career, has been able to meet and exceed the speed of light. Reflexes and perceptions included. I don't know what the method by which they acquired their powers has to do with it. The Flash is just much, much faster than Pietro in every way.

Flash has to reach speedforce for him to touchdown at lightspeed and beyond.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

No, he actually doesn't. He had a problem where he would start merging with the Speed Force if he exceeded light speed for a while, but he seems to have gotten over it, since he's done things that would put him well in excess of light speed without any SF-related problems.

 

[Docker2.0]

Even I'm more of a Marvel guy, Batman has things that Cap doesn't have - scientific knowledge & resources. It's hard to go against a guy who can mass produce sleeping gas & flashbangs.

So............just cuase he can produce sleeping gas and flashbangs, that gives him an advantage? Cap has the advantage. Why? Cuase they are probably dead even but the only difference is Cap doesn't get tired. They can fight for hours and be dead even but when fatigue comes in to play, Cap wins.