JLA vs. The X-men

[supes_el]

the JLA team is based on gods...

What does that mean?

JLA, all the way, come on ppl chant it with me "JLA, all the way"

OOO big scary Laser eyes, how woyld cyclops laser eyes go vs supermans heat vision?

any one for a BBQ?

JLA, All The Way...

In the words of Thedore R. Long: Holla Holla, Holla belead dat playa

LoL, you quoted Teddy Long

BTW: JLA

 

[Kmack]

I want to say JLA. . .but then again there's Phoenix. . .

 

[Trigger]

Phoenix could hold off JLA by herself if it came down to it.

 

[Calendar Man]

I love Batman, but he's bacon bits against Wolverine.

Batman would have Wolverine crying in a corner. Do not underestimate the Batgod.

 

[Calendar Man]

Batman's beaten Shiva as well.

And that was back in the day when Wolverine was much, much weaker overall. Took him like, a day to heal from gunshots, or a small stab wound.

Batman has beat Deathstroke too.

 

[Warhammer]

Close call, but JLA are a little too much for the X-Men.
But the X-Men would give a good fight.
Now the Avengers are a different story.

 

[GL1]

JLA would be the X-Men in any fair fight... but this is not a fair fight...

The OP is putting the standard JLA and then a suped up X-Men which includes the Phoenix Force and Magneto. If it was a fair fight, then we could use reserve JLAers like Captain Marvel and Green Lantern (with Ion) and the JLA would win again.

But the OP didn't do that, they OP put the Phoenix Force against the JLA, and while the Phoenix Force is far from omnipotent, it is on the sun-destroying level of play. The Phoenix would win this battle... not without destroying the planet earth (which most, if not all, of the JLA would survive, btw), but Phoenix would win.

 

[Marvin]

agreed

 

[Batmanx]

JLA vs.X-MEN = JLA

Superman vs. JeanGrey = StandStill Match
Wonder Woman vs. Colossus = WonderWoman(Hands Dn)
Batman vs. Bishop = Batman( Well soon get tha upper-hand)
Aguaman vs. Cyclops = Cyclops
Hawkgirl vs. Rogue = Rogue
Flash vs. Storm = Flash(His speed alone can take her out)
Martian ManHunter vs. Wolverine = Martian Manhunter
Green Lantern vs. Gambit = GL..
Magneto,,will watch the fight and help JLA ,just because,general purpose,doesn't like the X-Men...lol

 

[Infinity9999x]

Wolverine would probably fight Batman if we're going by matchups here, and I'd have to hand that fight to wolverine, because if batman punches him in the face he breaks his hand. It's pretty hard to hit a guy that's got the strongest metal in the world on his bones.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Any of the telepaths of the X-Men could mindlock almost the whole JLA leaving any other telepaths to attack MM. Cyclops famed richochet shots could also kill all the non invulnerable JLAers in an instant. If Magneto is part of the team then the magnetic bottle trick he used to suck the power out of Phoenix would also depower Superman. Using Rogue to power up on MM would also be a devastating tactic even if she got only a portion of his power

 

[Marvin]

Aquaman has his own telepathic power/defense

Superman is said to be immune to it in certain instances

A gl might be, but not for too long

 

[GL1]

Superman and GL breaks mind control with pure willpower
Martian Manhunter and Aquaman are telepaths
Flash is famously too fast for telepaths to track...

The telepaths May get Wondy, Bats and Hawkgirl, but they wont do much before MM points out who they are and flash K.O.s all of them. Opening up with telepaths would be a tactical mistake, the X-Men would be exposing their trump card too early.

Also Magneto cannot suck Superman's muscles out, therefore, he cannot depower Superman. And people punch and kick Wolverine all the time without breaking their bones. Besides, Batman would have that man electrocuted, gassed, blown up and grappled long before they get close enough to punch and kick.

The ONLY way the X-Men will EVER beat the JLA is if The Phoenix Force is fighting for them. This is a battle that will destroy the world and kill just about everyone on it. There is simply no other way for the X-Men to win.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

A possible scenario that I could see happening if the stakes were high enough: Cyclops opens with an optic blast richocheted off of Superman or MM depending on position.his is one of is patented multi bank shots at full power. this blast is traveling at the speed of light and cannot be seen until after it hits.Wonder Woman,Flash, Aquaman, Batman, and Hawkman are killed instantly. Xavier unloads a full power psi-bolt at MM whose mental defenses fail but probably preserve his life... barely. Supermans' powers are energy based and the energy can be siphoned off by Magnetos' magnetic bottle trick. If it can affect the phoenix then it should have no trouble on Superman. If it is Hal then he has a shield up going into the battle and has resisted all attacks without harm so far.there is no easy way for the X-Men to take him down as they did the others so it becomes a matter of dogpileing on him and wearing down his will power enough for someone to get through.Even here though Hal could still win against all the X-Men.

 

[BrianWilly]

No way would Wonder Woman, Aquaman, or Hawkman be "killed instantly" by a single optic blast.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Superman and GL breaks mind control with pure willpower
Martian Manhunter and Aquaman are telepaths
Flash is famously too fast for telepaths to track...

The telepaths May get Wondy, Bats and Hawkgirl, but they wont do much before MM points out who they are and flash K.O.s all of them. Opening up with telepaths would be a tactical mistake, the X-Men would be exposing their trump card too early.

Also Magneto cannot suck Superman's muscles out, therefore, he cannot depower Superman. And people punch and kick Wolverine all the time without breaking their bones. Besides, Batman would have that man electrocuted, gassed, blown up and grappled long before they get close enough to punch and kick.

The ONLY way the X-Men will EVER beat the JLA is if The Phoenix Force is fighting for them. This is a battle that will destroy the world and kill just about everyone on it. There is simply no other way for the X-Men to win.

That's also shotty writing. People break their hands when they hit other people hard, imagine how it would feel if you hit a guy with unbreakable metal around his bones. They used to mention that all the time in the old Wolverine comics, but then, they used to write Wolverine where he actually fought with skill, and not just go physco all the time. And I'm sorry, but Bats is toast against wolverine. Gas him? His healing factor beats out any poisions in his system. Actually, basically everything you mentioned wouldn't fase him much because of his healing system. Of course, I really don't like it, but the way the write Wolverine now, his healing is almost instantaneous.

20 years ago, bullets would take him at least a couple of minutes to heal from, now, heck he'll run headfirst into machine gun fire and be fine. It may be an overuse of healing power, but that's how he's written now. And are we saying that Batman knows who wolverine is? Because he wouldn't try to blow anyone up unless he knew they could survive it. (and heck like I said, igniting a grenade in Wolverine's face might not keep him down that long). I just don't see Bats being able to pull a win out with this one.

 

[Guyverjay]

Flash is famously too fast for telepaths to track...

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Here's two guys who say otherwise

 

[TheFalcon]

JLA would win.

 

[GL1]

That's also shotty writing. People break their hands when they hit other people hard, imagine how it would feel if you hit a guy with unbreakable metal around his bones. They used to mention that all the time in the old Wolverine comics, but then, they used to write Wolverine where he actually fought with skill, and not just go physco all the time. And I'm sorry, but Bats is toast against wolverine. Gas him? His healing factor beats out any poisions in his system. Actually, basically everything you mentioned wouldn't fase him much because of his healing system. Of course, I really don't like it, but the way the write Wolverine now, his healing is almost instantaneous.

20 years ago, bullets would take him at least a couple of minutes to heal from, now, heck he'll run headfirst into machine gun fire and be fine. It may be an overuse of healing power, but that's how he's written now. And are we saying that Batman knows who wolverine is? Because he wouldn't try to blow anyone up unless he knew they could survive it. (and heck like I said, igniting a grenade in Wolverine's face might not keep him down that long). I just don't see Bats being able to pull a win out with this one.

If Batman ever punched Wolverine in the face, then not only would Batman have the padding of gloves, and the protection of the metal that lines them, but his tender gentle hands would also be padded by the inch or so of flesh between wolverine's face and his skull.

Futhermore, since Batman typically hits pretty hard, Wolverine's head would be pushed, to some degree, backwards, resulting in further less pressure on Batman's hand from the blow. Now if Wolverine were an adamantium wall, then the glove padding wouldn't be worth much, but as is, Wolverine is a movable person, and thus, hitting him is a lot less painful than hitting a brick wall simply because he moves when you hit him. Wolverine is not invulnerable... just unkillable.

Aside from the fact that I have not mentioned Batman gassing Wolverine or any such madness, Wolverine fights Elektra, Captain America and other master martial artists pretty evenly. Batman, being on par with these skill wise would also fight Wolverine to a standstill, his claws being no more an advantage than Batman's boomerangs, both of which are fully capable of cutting up lots and lots of flesh.

While the chances of Batman and Wolverine meeting up in a free for all brawl between the X-Men and JLA are SUPER Slim, if they WERE to meet up, the fight would likely continue until one of their teammates came to help decide the battle... unless of course they were the last two standing, in which case, Wolverine would win... after four days of straight fighting of course...

 

[PWN3R]

JLA would win, but Batman would so die...

 

[X-Punisher]

Batman would have Wolverine crying in a corner. Do not underestimate the Batgod.

Surely you jest? Wolverine would kill Batman.

 

[X-Punisher]

JLA vs.X-MEN = JLA

Superman vs. JeanGrey = StandStill Match
Wonder Woman vs. Colossus = WonderWoman(Hands Dn)
Batman vs. Bishop = Batman( Well soon get tha upper-hand)
Aguaman vs. Cyclops = Cyclops
Hawkgirl vs. Rogue = Rogue
Flash vs. Storm = Flash(His speed alone can take her out)
Martian ManHunter vs. Wolverine = Martian Manhunter
Green Lantern vs. Gambit = GL..
Magneto,,will watch the fight and help JLA ,just because,general purpose,doesn't like the X-Men...lol

Magneto would most likely help the X-Men if they were fighting JLA. Magneto would most likely see JLA as a bigger threat then the X-Men. After helping the X-Men he would surely go after them.

 

[Warhammer]

Once again...
JLA would crush X-Men.

 

[Infinity9999x]

If Batman ever punched Wolverine in the face, then not only would Batman have the padding of gloves, and the protection of the metal that lines them, but his tender gentle hands would also be padded by the inch or so of flesh between wolverine's face and his skull.

Futhermore, since Batman typically hits pretty hard, Wolverine's head would be pushed, to some degree, backwards, resulting in further less pressure on Batman's hand from the blow. Now if Wolverine were an adamantium wall, then the glove padding wouldn't be worth much, but as is, Wolverine is a movable person, and thus, hitting him is a lot less painful than hitting a brick wall simply because he moves when you hit him. Wolverine is not invulnerable... just unkillable.

Aside from the fact that I have not mentioned Batman gassing Wolverine or any such madness, Wolverine fights Elektra, Captain America and other master martial artists pretty evenly. Batman, being on par with these skill wise would also fight Wolverine to a standstill, his claws being no more an advantage than Batman's boomerangs, both of which are fully capable of cutting up lots and lots of flesh.

While the chances of Batman and Wolverine meeting up in a free for all brawl between the X-Men and JLA are SUPER Slim, if they WERE to meet up, the fight would likely continue until one of their teammates came to help decide the battle... unless of course they were the last two standing, in which case, Wolverine would win... after four days of straight fighting of course...

Well I suppose that would make sense, but it would at least hurt batman to hit him. Actually you did mention Batman gassing wolverine in my original quote, I bolded it, you said And people punch and kick Wolverine all the time without breaking their bones. Besides, Batman would have that man electrocuted, gassed, blown up and grappled long before they get close enough to punch and kick.

I disagree about the claws not being any more advantage then a batarang. Batman can loose his batarangs, they can be nocked from his hand, and they're much more breakable then wolverine's claws. Also, if Wolverine gets a nasty cut, he heals, if Batman gets a nasty cut, he's screwed.

And your right, the chances of them meeting up would be slim, and they most probably wouldn't, but I only brought this up because someone had the X-men going against the JLA and played it out individualy, and I believe he had Batman going against someone other then Wolverine, to which I said I thought Batman and Wolverine would be a better matchup.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Once again...
JLA would crush X-Men.

Most likely ya, unless X-men had the phoniex force...and after destroying the world and killing everybody, if anybody in the JLA was left, the Phoniex force would bore them to death by dying and coming back to life 50billion times....because her friggin creators at marvel can't come up with anything original.