GL1 said:
Argh, you cought me, I did mention gassed since that would slow/preoccupy Wolverine's healing factor a bit, much the same way Omega Red's gasses do.
I really don't see how hitting Wolverine would hurt. Batman's got gloves, pure and simple.
I think you're painting disadvantages for Batman where there are none. Batman's had nasty cuts before and won, not been "instantly screwed." Likewise, Batman doesn't "lose" batarangs. He either hits or misses, and them NOT being attatched to him means he has more reach than Wolverine, immeasurably more, which is an advantage, not a handicap. I don't know how you got the image of Batman dropping batarangs and them getting knocked out of his hand, but it doesn't happen any more often than people sneak up on Wolverine. While he's awake. Looking for them.
Wolverine has the advantage in that damage to him is soon retracted (in most cases), and he has limitless endurance... but if Wolverine can't outFIGHT Batman on pure skill (and he CAN'T) then none of that matters until Batman gets tired, which takes three days. During that time, Batman has plenty of time to electrocute, blow up, drown, drag and outmaneuver Wolverine.
While Wolverine fans may think he's all that, I've read plenty of both characters, and it's painfully obvious to me that this is an even fight...
Good point, Batman probably wouldn't drop his Batarangs much, I was just saying that he could loose his weapon, while Wolverine can't. I think it would be a pretty even fight too, but one reason I believe Wolverine could win (and this is just my own personal opinion) is because Wolverine can fight with skill when writers want him too, it's just no one likes to anymore. He has beaten more skilled martial artists in his past (Shingin for example) but I won't deny it would be a close fight.
The reason I think Batman would loose, is pretty much because I tend to view my Batman as a more realistic human (ie The Batman I imagine would not be able to endlessly fight three days straight, because I know of no non metahuman person that could) but I also realize that there are other interpretations of him being able to do this.
But I think one thing people tend to overlook is, if Batman does get close to Wolverine, he would probably be in big troubble. Think if Wolverine headbutted him, that's an adamatium skull going into a normal nose. Now yes, he does have a kevlar enforced cowl, but how much protection could he have over his nose piece? And think of how much it hurts to be headbutted by a normal person, then envision that skull being laced with metal. Basially, I just think Batman would go down quickly if he brought the fight to Wolverine, because once you make it close quarters, Batman could land a hit that would normally totally incopacitate someone, and Wolerine would still be going, then all Wolverine has to do is get in one good swipe, and Batman has a near fatal wound. That's the way Wolverine has beaten many skilled Martial artists (Shingin, the silver Samuri to name a few)
Of course, like I said, this is all taking into account my own interpretations of the characters. I like my Wolverine more like the early eighties Claremont version, who still used some skill, and actually tried to controll his rages, and the Batman I envision is closer to the O'Neal/Loeb version, who isn't as powerfull as some write him.
All in all it all comes down to how the characters are being protrayed I suppose, but I do agree with you, it would be a hell of a fight.
(but Hal would kick his ass)
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