JLA vs. The X-men

[MagicPrime]

Seems like I remember some telepathic fella that the JLA used to have, that often protected them from these types of things.

I think it's been well established that Flash is a lot faster than Marvel U. speedsters.

And that is why I call him Quick "Nowhere Near as Fast as the Flash" Silver


Without the Avengers the Marvel Universe would cower before the DCU. Remember when Krona virtually raped Galactus and built a fortress out of his BODY?!

The X-Men stand little to know chance against the JLA. The X-Men are not the Marvel Flagship Team, the Avengers are. The X-Men are a Sideline team. A more acceptable questions would be X-Men vs. the Outsiders or the Titans.

 

[batnkevlar]

I mean, Captain America vs. Batman is a good match...

Thor versus Superman...

Iron Man vs. Green Lantern...

those are better matches...

 

[Aristotle]

And that is why I call him Quick "Nowhere Near as Fast as the Flash" Silver

That's actually his full legal name. Little known factoid.

Remember when Krona virtually raped Galactus and built a fortress out of his BODY?!

And then remember when, clearly unsettled by that, Marvel decided not to treat it as canonical, though DC did?

 

[MagicPrime]

That's actually his full legal name. Little known factoid.

And then remember when, clearly unsettled by that, Marvel decided not to treat it as canonical, though DC did?

We all love selective memory.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

The X-Men are a lot more formidable than the Avengers. The X-Men have a lot of telepaths and energy wielders. When Rogue was first introduced she whipped the Avengers all by herself. The lineup included Thor and Wonderman.

Krona beating Galactus is absurd, he has never had even a fraction of the power needed. If he pushed himself to the limit he might be powerful enough to make Galactus pay momentary attention to him.

 

[Aristotle]

We all love selective memory.

And Marvel arrogance.

Krona beating Galactus is absurd, he has never had even a fraction of the power needed. If he pushed himself to the limit he might be powerful enough to make Galactus pay momentary attention to him.

Not a big DC Comics reader, are we?

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Not a big DC Comics reader, are we?

Nah, I only started reading them 45 years ago.

 

[MagicPrime]

Galactus vs. Guardians of the Universe...

Big Purple guy doesn't even stand a chance.

 

[LexCorp]

JLA for me would win this one.

 

[KAD]

Since when was Professor X all of a sudden a factor in this?

The first post clearly states who is in this "match":

Batman, Wonderwoman, Superman, Martian Manhunter, the Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkgirl, Green Arrow, and Aquaman as the JLA.

Versus

Cyclops, Wolverine, Rogue, Storm, Jean Grey (With the Phoenix), Colossus, Bishop, Gambit, and Magneto (he is an unactive member).

Why all of this talk about the Professor? And then here and there I heard talk about Nightcrawler and other characters as well. The members of each "team" were listed, so that's what is put into account.

With this line up Xmen would win hands down

Magneto could easily take out supes the same way Dr polaris did
Bishop on GL try absorbing the green energy??
Storm on Aquaman
wolverine on bats
Cyclops and collosus on Green arrow and hawk girl

Pheonix on MM and Flash

Rogue on WW

 

[LexCorp]

When you put it like that...it could go either way but Batman loosing to Logan no way.

 

[MagicPrime]

After the first time Bishop absorbs a Ring blast and fires it back, GL Will just resort to throwing heavy things at him.

 

[trustyside-kick]

With this line up Xmen would win hands down

Magneto could easily take out supes the same way Dr polaris did
I never read that fight between Dr. Polaris and Supes, but could you be more specific? I don't see how that should happen when even Aquaman, who is not as strong as Supes, defeated Polaris 1v1. Course, his telepathy was his edge.

Bishop on GL try absorbing the green energy??
Bishop can only store so much energy. So you are talking about Bishops's limit versus the amazing willpower of Kyle Rayner...Kyle would win.

Storm on Aquaman
Don't see how it would hurt him too much. He is real durable, and to be more specific even more to heat and energy. So good luck with that. Aquaman would win.

wolverine on bats
Yea, Batman would lose; he should.

Cyclops and collosus on Green arrow and hawk girl
That's not the most even of the match ups, therefore, yea Cyclops and Colossus would win that one.

Pheonix on MM and Flash
Kind of debatable. Aren't there different types and such of the Pheonix? Sadly, the guy who started this thread wasn't very specific.

Rogue on WW
It's already been mentioned the fact that technically, Wondie is a "golem" and empowered by magic. So I don't recall Rogue being able to do so. But even that aside, Rogue doesn't have that super strength anymore. She has Sunfire's powers.

Not necessarily as you see...

 

[TheCorpulent1]

If we're talking about a Phoenix who can easily take down the Martian Manhunter and the Flash, we might as well just remove the rest of the X-Men and just say the Phoenix can beat the entire JLA roster, since we're clearly dealing with the cosmic-level Phoenix entity rather than Jean Grey simply using the name.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Yea, the guy was never specific in this thread...and then a butt-load of people are posting without even looking at the first post to see the rosters.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It's a 4-year-old vs. thread; why in God's name was it resurrected?

EDIT: Ah, I see. Our old friend from the "Storm pwns Thor" camp, OZONE, did it.

 

[MagicPrime]

If we're talking about a Phoenix who can easily take down the Martian Manhunter and the Flash, we might as well just remove the rest of the X-Men and just say the Phoenix can beat the entire JLA roster, since we're clearly dealing with the cosmic-level Phoenix entity rather than Jean Grey simply using the name.

Was Jean still officially part of the X-Men while she was all crazy powerful Phoenix-like?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't even care anymore. I try my best to forget about continuity relating to Phoenix, Jean, Cable, Rachel Summers--basically, the whole Summers/Grey families other than Cyclops and Havok.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Who would win? JLA vs. The X-men

The JUSTICE LEAGUE

 

[SenseiofCheese]

The only version of the Phoenix I recognize, is the all-powerful, reality-warping, omega-level mutant. I'm not a big X-Men reader, and I've always thought Phoenix could wipe out the world, basically. (Or am I confusing her with Dark Phoenix?)
What I meant to say was, all the way down the X-Men roster I was thinking "Supes could take him...Flash could take her...." and so forth, but as soon as I read "Jean Grey (Phoenix), I thought "Well, that's the fight."

Am I wrong in thinking that Phoenix could just wipe JLA out without an extra blink of the eye? (And as a DC buff, that's a hard thing to say)

 

[TheCorpulent1]

No, the Phoenix really is that powerful. Of course, the JLA have gone up against ridiculously powerful, cosmic-scale threats before and won, but if the Phoenix were really determined to wipe them out, I'm sure it could. I say "it" because I'm treating it as its own entity and ignoring all of the obfuscation about where Jean ends and the Phoenix begins that "Here Comes Tomorrow," "Planet X," and Phoenix: Endsong wrought.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

When you speak of Cosmic entites you speak of characters like Galactus, The Celestials or The Living Tribunal. I'm a 100 percent sure that neither Jean Grey or Magneto is as powerful as them. Jean with the Phoenix force is so god awfully writen power wise and has been recton over and over that it's just to damn convoluted for the chracter to hold any real weight. The Living Tribunal is also the most powerful being in the Marvel Universe.

Jean Grey with the Phoenix Force is about as powerful as Galactus is....I mean she destroyed a star system. And Magneto is thought to be about as powerful as Silver Surfer.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Cyclops powers don't originate from an alternate dimension, they come from the sun... so the real way to inhibit his powers would be somehow deplete his cells of the solar energy then block out the sun...

No, incorrect. His powers work at night. That was only in the cartoon, the Morlock episode...where he was used in place of Warren Worthington. Cyclops has no eyes in the traditional sense, they are apertures to an alternate dimension.

All the ambient solar energy does is allow him to maintain the apertures.

Cyclops possesses the mutant ability to project a beam of heatless ruby-colored concussive force from his eyes, which act as inter-dimensional apertures between this universe and another.

It's been reasoned that these dimensional holes would actually take over his whole body if he didn't focus them through his eyes (Civil War: X-Men)

 

[SenseiofCheese]

Okay so, (And I realize X3 isn't a movie that should be brought up alot), if Phoenix could do that thing where she incinerated everything except Wolverine, that means everybody in the JLA except Superman & maybe Wonder Woman would be taken out.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

The interdimensionasl explanation however contradicts what Marvel itself has said on the subject over the years and has been featured as a major part of at least one storyline. Marvel's original explanation of Scott's powers is that he absorbs and converts sunlight and stores the energy in his body. This was a big part of the Arkon story where Scott absorbs Storm's lightning and converts it into power for his optic blast. The blast is then used to power a device to reenergize the rings that function in place of a sun for Arkon's world. To my knowledge the interdimensional idea has never been referred to in any comic.