JLA vs. The X-men

[Infinity9999x]

Juggs is not more powerful then supes. I'll say they are on the same level, Superman probably edges him out becuase he has the potential to be more destructive then Juggs, because of his additional powers. Juggs has strength and invulnerbility to sum it up, he doesn't have heat vision, superspeed, freeze breath, and super senses. Not saying Juggs would be a push over, cause Supes would have his hands full, but there are many ways that superman can defeat juggs, eventhough he doesn't hurt him. Also Superman may not be able to hurt him, but I'm certain that Galactus or the Celestials wouldn't have a problem.

Of course Galactus or the Celestials would hurt Juggs. You misunderstand what I said. Juggernaut cannot be hurt by PHYSICAL means. Anyone who has telepathy or any reality warping abilities could hurt Juggernaut.

As for Juggs at full power not being able to be hurt or stopped by any means, well maybe you shoyuld ask Onslaught how he hurt Juggs and ripped the Ruby of Cytorak out of his chest. Also how some other female character whom i forget was wearing Juggs down, cuase her power allowed her to see the weaknesses in anything and she could them exploit it

As I said above, Juggernaut is immune to physical harm. Onslaught was a being of pure psiconic energy, hence why he could hurt juggernaut. I don't know the girl your referring too, but I'm going to bet that she had some kind of mental powers to help her do it.


Superman would have more trouble with Juggernaut then someone like professor X because he relies solely on physical force. He could probably find a way to remove juggs from the playing field (ala Hulk or doing something like flying him into space) But Superman can not physical knock Juggernaut out.

 

[MagicPrime]

The debate of whether or not Supes could knock out Juggernaut not withstanding. Don't for a second act like Juggernaut would just laugh/shrug off a hay maker from Superman.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Magneto would get his head handed to him period.

Doubtful. Dr. Polaris beat the entire Justice League. Magneto is as powerful, if not moreso, as Dr. Polaris.

 

[CaptainClown]

The debate of whether or not Supes could knock out Juggernaut not withstanding. Don't for a second act like Juggernaut would just laugh/shrug off a hay maker from Superman.

Juggernaut may be tought but he really isn't a match for Superman

 

[Phenomenal]

What the Fudge!!? Do you know anything about comics at all? Scarlet Witch at her House of M levels would wipe her pretty bottom with anyone less than Odin or maybe even Galactus. She is a reality warper....that means she is far more powerful than the likes of Thor.

False! Reality Warper can't warp a being more powerful than themselves.

Wow, I'm really curious to hear how Magneto would even SURVIVE an encounter with Green Lantern or Flash let alone beat ONE(except maybe Batman) of them.

Magneto would rape Green Lantern just like a weaker Dr. Polaris. Flash will easily get blasted (like he always does).

You do not necessarily have to be an Omega-level mutant to be powerful. Case in point, Elixir.

True. I am talking about handling people like Thor or Thanos.

True, but as to who, that's debatable.

No, A reality Warper can not just warp someone with extreme power!

 

[Infinity9999x]

The debate of whether or not Supes could knock out Juggernaut not withstanding. Don't for a second act like Juggernaut would just laugh/shrug off a hay maker from Superman.

Oh, I'm not saying that Juggs would laugh off a big hit from Supes, but there is no debate as to weather or not Superman could actually hurt Juggernaut with physical force. Because he can't. Juggernaut can not be harmed by physical force when he is at full power. That's fact, and that's not debatable.

Now, that obviously doesn't mean that Juggernaut couldn't be beaten. If Superman was smart, the easiest way to beat Juggernaut would be to fly him out into space and let him drift out there forever. The stupid way to try to handle Juggernaut would be to try to get in a hit for hit fistfight with him, because Superman would eventually tire out. Juggernaut wouldn't.

 

[CaptainClown]

Oh, I'm not saying that Juggs would laugh off a big hit from Supes, but there is no debate as to weather or not Superman could actually hurt Juggernaut with physical force. Because he can't. Juggernaut can not be harmed by physical force when he is at full power. That's fact, and that's not debatable.

Now, that obviously doesn't mean that Juggernaut couldn't be beaten. If Superman was smart, the easiest way to beat Juggernaut would be to fly him out into space and let him drift out there forever. The stupid way to try to handle Juggernaut would be to try to get in a hit for hit fistfight with him, because Superman would eventually tire out. Juggernaut wouldn't.

Superman tire out?
You are also forgetting Supermans superspeed.

 

[Dr. Fate]

The JLA would crush the X-Men into the ground. Nuff said.

 

[Phenomenal]

Magneto alone would take most of the JLA!

 

[MagicPrime]

Oh, I'm not saying that Juggs would laugh off a big hit from Supes, but there is no debate as to weather or not Superman could actually hurt Juggernaut with physical force. Because he can't. Juggernaut can not be harmed by physical force when he is at full power. That's fact, and that's not debatable.

Now, that obviously doesn't mean that Juggernaut couldn't be beaten. If Superman was smart, the easiest way to beat Juggernaut would be to fly him out into space and let him drift out there forever. The stupid way to try to handle Juggernaut would be to try to get in a hit for hit fistfight with him, because Superman would eventually tire out. Juggernaut wouldn't.

I could defiantly just see Superman flying in at top speed from behind, smashing into his back and just continuing the flightpath out of the atmosphere before shoving him out into the unknown. Physics state that he would just keep going and going and going. and with the Juggernaut being an "irresistible" force once he gets momentum he would just drift in space at the speed forever, smashing through planets/comets/stars/etc.

I do however think Superman could One-punch the Hulk.

haha.

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

Magneto alone would take most of the JLA!

This statement seems extremely fanboyish. Gotta come with some facts dude....

 

[Majik1387]

The Phoenix would devour the JLA and if she goes a bit crazy she might eat some X-Men by accident too.

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

False! Reality Warper can't warp a being more powerful than themselves.



Magneto would rape Green Lantern just like a weaker Dr. Polaris. Flash will easily get blasted (like he always does).



True. I am talking about handling people like Thor or Thanos.



No, A reality Warper can not just warp someone with extreme power!

What do you mean by more powerful? The only beings I know of that are immune to the effects of reality warpers such are Cosmic Necessities and Omega level mutants but there are supossedly there are Reality Warpers that can even effect them.

Care to explain what you mean by more powerful?

It kinda seems like you are making sh** up.

 

[Nokio]

Of course Galactus or the Celestials would hurt Juggs. You misunderstand what I said. Juggernaut cannot be hurt by PHYSICAL means. Anyone who has telepathy or any reality warping abilities could hurt Juggernaut.



As I said above, Juggernaut is immune to physical harm. Onslaught was a being of pure psiconic energy, hence why he could hurt juggernaut. I don't know the girl your referring too, but I'm going to bet that she had some kind of mental powers to help her do it.


Superman would have more trouble with Juggernaut then someone like professor X because he relies solely on physical force. He could probably find a way to remove juggs from the playing field (ala Hulk or doing something like flying him into space) But Superman can not physical knock Juggernaut out.

I'm certain that Galactus would not have to use reality warping powers or psionics. I'm sure Galactus could easily reduce juggs to dust or vaporize him. That Cytorak guy is the one who gives juggs his power. Ten bucks says that Galactus is more powerful then him.

Well actually Onslaught had massive superstrength that he said he could increase. When Onslaught ripped the gem out of Juggs he didn't use any psionic powers. He squeezed it out of him literally.

As for the lady who was hurting juggs, she was a human who gained a gem similar to Juggs. It was some story arc in spiderman i believe, where i think it was 6 or 7 gems that was hidden on earth and was to allow these demons or whatever they were to see which was the most powerful among them. The demons placed the gems on earth becuase they didn't want to battle in their dimension and the 1st human who touched them would gain their power and be under their control. The gem of Cytorak was of strength and force, and one was mind power or psionics, and another was for fighting skills and great speed and to see the weakness in anything, and another was the touch of death, one was of wind power. I can't recall the others but they could all hurt one another. They were all supposed to possess a host at a specific time according to a prophecy, but juggs found his gem before it's time and Cytorak wasn't able to control him. I think Cain was not supposed to even get the gem or either he got it too early and that was why Cytorak couldn't control him. I just can't remember all the details, but Spiderman, Prof X, Iron Man, Cap, Thor, some of the other avengers were on board to help stop the hosts because their battle probably would have destroyed earth and Juggs joined with them.

 

[Phenomenal]

This statement seems extremely fanboyish. Gotta come with some facts dude....

1. Magneto is Taylor Made to kick Supes @#$ He would drain him like this..........

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2.Green Lantern??? No, Maggs would do worse than what Dr. Polaris did to him. Maggs would turn his ring against him but worse.

3. Flash? How is he going ot touch Maggs with his shields?? Vision couldn't even phase through them!

4. Martian Manhunter? What...he is going to try and mind rape Maggs? Nope, Maggs has resisted Xavier's mind blast with sheer will power. I doubt MM could phase through his shields if Flash and vision can't. Magss would Tagg blast MM.

5. Wonder Woman? No She would get hurt by projectiles.

6. Batman? Non-factor.

7. Who Aqua-man, Hawk Girl?? LOL they have metal objects they lose.

Maggs wins.

 

[Phenomenal]

What do you mean by more powerful? The only beings I know of that are immune to the effects of reality warpers such are Cosmic Necessities and Omega level mutants but there are supossedly there are Reality Warpers that can even effect them.

Care to explain what you mean by more powerful?

It kinda seems like you are making sh** up.

Show me where A reality Warper just turned someone like Hulk or Thor into Gold???? If that were the case Surfer would have no problem changing Thanos into a box of cookies everytime they fought, now would it?

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

Show me where A reality Warper just turned someone like Hulk or Thor into Gold???? If that were the case Surfer would have no problem changing Thanos into a box of cookies everytime they fought, now would it?

Uh....how about heroes reborn were Frankiln Richards made Thor AND Hulk re-live their entire lives as he saw fit or how Korvac pwned the Avengers like it was nothing with his even bringing them back to life in the end.

And Surfer isn't really a reality manipulator.

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

1. Magneto is Taylor Made to kick Supes @#$ He would drain him like this..........

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2.Green Lantern??? No, Maggs would do worse than what Dr. Polaris did to him. Maggs would turn his ring against him but worse.

3. Flash? How is he going ot touch Maggs with his shields?? Vision couldn't even phase through them!

4. Martian Manhunter? What...he is going to try and mind rape Maggs? Nope, Maggs has resisted Xavier's mind blast with sheer will power. I doubt MM could phase through his shields if Flash and vision can't. Magss would Tagg blast MM.

5. Wonder Woman? No She would get hurt by projectiles.

6. Batman? Non-factor.

7. Who Aqua-man, Hawk Girl?? LOL they have metal objects they lose.

Maggs wins.

First off Phoenix lost because she didn't even know how to use her own powers at the time. Second, I would really like to see how Mags would survive against the JLA when there are four members on the team that can move faster than the speed of thought. That rules out the psychics too. Magneto would have his head ripped of in less then a nano-second.

 

[CaptainClown]

You can always tell who is a Marvel/DC fan in these fights.

 

[Majik1387]

I'm a fan of both Marvel and DC, but I really don't see how people are trying to claim that someone like the Flash can take the Phoenix.

 

[CaptainClown]

I have a little Bias for DC, but it really all depends on who is writing these stories

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

I'm a fan of both Marvel and DC, but I really don't see how people are trying to claim that someone like the Flash can take the Phoenix.

Because of stuff like him beating Instantaneous travel and single handedly destroying the Anti-Monitor's Material form in an alternate timeline. He has some extremely insane feats under his belt. I'd like to see a psychic take on someone who jogs faster than the speed of thought.

 

[CaptainClown]

Ya technically he could go back in time kill Jean Grey then come back and ta da

 

[Majik1387]

I have a little Bias for DC, but it really all depends on who is writing these stories

Exactly.

Because of stuff like him beating Instantaneous travel and single handedly destroying the Anti-Monitor's Material form in an alternate timeline. He has some extremely insane feats under his belt. I'd like to see a psychic take on someone who jogs faster than the speed of thought.

Didn't the Flash(Barry Allen) die when taking the Anti-Monitor on?

Speaking of the Flash, which Flash are we talking about?

 

[CaptainClown]

I like Wally =) but Barry Allen is suppose to be the most powerful flash, I think..