Joker 2019 boxoffice predictions

[terry78]

It's all in the execution. You can't crank this **** out on an assembly line. Well Disney can but they have it to a science.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Maze]

Box Office: 'Joker' to Become Top-Grossing R-Rated Pic of All Time

 

[Detective Conan]

Man, Joker’s box office dominance is no laughing matter. Especially when you’re the one that was betting against it —The self-righteous critics who were sounding the alarm bells about how “irresponsible” or “dangerous” this movie was sure do look like the real clowns now that this movie is making big bank.

Congratulations Clown Prince of Crime— Now you’ve become the Clown Prince Of Money(cheesy but you get the point).

 

[Iceman]

Haha. Good range to be doing both Joker and Hangover.

 

[NotNickFury]

Good range and legs for Joker. Looks like all this panic in the street the media tried to conjure up amounted to people either seeing the film or seeing the film and then dancing on stairs.

 

[Boom]

Don't worry. The media drama will pick back up again in a couple of months when awards season starts.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Yowza]

The Chinese market is necessary for Joker to pass a Billion I think. Only so many foreign films are allowed per year so perhaps it doesn't matter either way but I found this article interesting from October 7th.

Joker draws comparisons to Hong Kong protests in China

Joker draws comparisons to Hong Kong protests in China
People eager to see the film worry the violent, R-rated film might never pass China’s censors, and some blame similarities with the chaos in Hong Kong

Joker had a strong opening weekend around the world, but not in China. Many moviegoers in the world’s second-largest film market fear they may never get to see the controversial comic book movie in theaters.


The latest DC film tells the origin story of Batman’s arch nemesis, the Joker. In this version, he’s an aspiring stand-up comedian troubled with mental illness who morphs into a murderous clown as he grapples with the cruel and apathetic society he was raised in.


Society’s role in creating the Joker is seen as a critique of the failures of capitalism. The irony of a potential blackout in Chinese cinemas wasn’t lost on the public.


“A film that criticizes the ideologies of capitalism can be screened in almost all capitalist countries, but it can’t be approved in a socialist country like China,” one person wrote on the movie review site Douban, drawing more than 200 likes. “That itself is a joke.”


Featuring what some call an “Oscar-worthy” performance by Joaquin Phoenix, the film broke box office records this past weekend despite being a subject of controversy. Many worry that the movie invites too much sympathy for a mass murderer and that it might incite copycat crimes.


But in China, cinephiles worry the the movie will never land in cinemas because it paints a bleak picture of a violent society. Even when R-rated films do get released in China, though, they can be heavily censored. Logan, known as Wolverine 3 in China, had 14 minutes cut from the China release. The first Deadpool never got a theatrical release in the country, and the sequel was only released when it got a PG-13 cut titled Once Upon a Deadpool.


“It can [get released] if they change the name to Happy Comedian and cut some violent scenes,” joked one user on Q&A site Zhihu under a question about the possibility of Joker being released in China.


“How is it possible that the Joker exists in the beautiful new era of socialism?” another person wrote on Douban.


Some critics say that the new Joker movie deviated from the more mysterious character featured in The Dark Knight, who was presented as a “malign agent of chaos” and considered a good adaptation of the comic book character who never had an official origin. In the new film, Joker has become more of a “V For Vendetta-style anti-capitalist revolutionary.”


“Our homeland only produces Lei Feng, not Joker,” another Douban user joked, referring to a Communist propaganda figure representing selflessness and modesty. “Because we have the guidance of Marxism.”


But some people think it’s not the dissimilarity with the Communist Party’s vision of China that’s the problem, but rather similarities to another part of the country.


“It’s impossible,” a Zhihu user said about the possibility of Joker being released in China. “Certain scenes in the movies are too much like what’s happening recently in a certain place.”


That place, of course, is Hong Kong, where protests that have gone on for four months have become increasingly violent. And ironically, that’s one place in China where people can actually watch the film.


“Watched it in Hong Kong tonight and came out to find the subway shut down,” said one short review on Douban. “It feels like the movie has not ended.”


“So does Gotham need an anti-mask law or does Hong Kong need a Batman?” another Douban user asked, referencing Hong Kong’s recent anti-mask law that drew a violent backlash over the weekend.


Thanks to censorship and effective propaganda, many nationalistic Chinese netizens show a lack of sympathy for Hong Kong protesters. But some are also asking people to think differently.


“Instead of worrying whether people in Hong Kong will turn into Jokers, why not reflect on whether you are as hypocritical and indifferent as Thomas Wayne and Murray?” another Douban user said in a comment with more than 600 likes.


But for those who can’t go to Hong Kong to see the film and make comparisons themselves, there’s at least one other option. Many Chinese netizens are already asking about where to find pirated copies online.

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

 

[Pennywise]

 

[psylockolussus]

Thats great!

 

[Iceman]

Joker turned into a titan, without the budget to match.

 

[psylockolussus]

I always knew its going to be a box office success like Venom, the most iconic villain of a very iconic superhero. Its legs though are surprisingly really good, I didn't expect it to outgross Maleficent in the other countries. For example, in the Uk, Maleficent opened at #2 despite Joker already being in its 3rd weekend. Even in the U.S, daily grosses, its already outgrossing Maleficent.

 

[geosphere]

I always knew its going to be a box office success like Venom, the most iconic villain of a very iconic superhero. Its legs though are surprisingly really good, I didn't expect it to outgross Maleficent in the other countries. For example, in the Uk, Maleficent opened at #2 despite Joker already being in its 3rd weekend. Even in the U.S, daily grosses, its already outgrossing Maleficent.

it will reclaim the #1 spot from Maleficent this weekend too according to the trades.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Mutant 77]

I always knew its going to be a box office success like Venom, the most iconic villain of a very iconic superhero. Its legs though are surprisingly really good, I didn't expect it to outgross Maleficent in the other countries. For example, in the Uk, Maleficent opened at #2 despite Joker already being in its 3rd weekend. Even in the U.S, daily grosses, its already outgrossing Maleficent.

I'm very glad that you're a Batman fan. Finally we're on the same page.

VENOM is an accomplished and popular standalone superhero, and the cinematic version is also stripped of connections with Spider-Man, spider-powers and spider-logo. So it's a new franchise.

 

[ironwez20]

That venom movie was meh.

 

[Pennywise]

Box Office: ‘Joker’ Becomes The First R-Rated Movie To Top $800 Million

 

[terry78]

Of course studios will now assume they can do this with any R rated property, not realizing you need a Joaquin caliber actor and dare I say, Phillips caliber director.

 

[psylockolussus]

I'm very glad that you're a Batman fan. Finally we're on the same page.

VENOM is an accomplished and popular standalone superhero, and the cinematic version is also stripped of connections with Spider-Man, spider-powers and spider-logo. So it's a new franchise.

There was nothing in my post that would say I'm a Batman fan. Odd.

 

[ironwez20]

There was nothing in my post that would say I'm a Batman fan. Odd.

the guy is kinda strange tbh

 

[Mutant 77]

There was nothing in my post that would say I'm a Batman fan. Odd.

It was my personal hope. I'm all about redemption, and I wanna see something good in you. My fault LOL.

 

[Mutant 77]

For true Batman fans:

Batman is the most profitable solo superhero in movie history.

Total gross of the Batman movies:

$4,992,988,243

+

$746.8 million
Suicide Squad (no superheroes; Batman is featured; depicting Joker and Harley Quinn, as well as other popular Bat-villains like Deadshot)

+

$657.9 million
Justice League (Batman as main character, Wonder Woman as co-lead; Superman as secondary character. Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg at that point still not having solo movies)

+

Joker... 800 million dollars and COUNTING.

+

The Lego Movie (2014)
$469,160,692
(he was the only leading superhero of the movie)

 

[B]

For true Batman fans:

Batman is the most profitable solo superhero in movie history.

Total gross of the Batman movies:

$4,992,988,243

+

$746.8 million
Suicide Squad (no superheroes; Batman is featured; depicting Joker and Harley Quinn, as well as other popular Bat-villains like Deadshot)

+

$657.9 million
Justice League (Batman as main character, Wonder Woman as co-lead; Superman as secondary character. Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg at that point still not having solo movies)

+

Joker... 800 million dollars and COUNTING.

+

The Lego Movie (2014)
$469,160,692
(he was the only leading superhero of the movie)

Pretty sure Spider-Man is the most profitable superhero in movie history.

Infinity War & Endgame made $4.8b combined alone. Then Far Far Home made another $1.1b, Homecoming $900m, then you've the Toby Maguire trilogy to add on probably another $2b or so, Garfield's 2 movies another $1.5b, Into The Spider-Verse another £350m..

Spider-Man's way out ahead at the minute.