The Dark Knight Joker Casting Threads [merged-30]

[regwec]

No.

 

[GL1]

Not too bad... he's an EXCELLENT actor and, well... I think he would give the character a truly deep life that would steal the show quite nicely... make the Joker the once-in-a-lifetime villain he's supposed to be instead of just a comic book character...

 

[Nightwing5]

Well Maxwell, I told you how i feel about this over at BOF.

AWESOME!!!!!!

 

[Nightwing5]

Cool

How do you mkae a sig here?

 

[Maxwell Smart]

No.

I just cannot respect your opinion if you come up in my thread and just blurt out a negative response without explaining why you feel that way.

 

[Maxwell Smart]

Cool

How do you mkae a sig here?

Unfortunately its got a really crap system where you can't make one until you've had a certain number of posts. I think its 200 for a sig..

 

[J835]

yes he could fitt and SOME ONE NEW PLAY FOR THOMAS WAYNE <
MARTHA WAYNE < JACQULINE BISSETT

 

[Nightwing5]

That is really stupid!!!!

I better start posting

 

[regwec]

I just cannot respect your opinion if you come up in my thread and just blurt out a negative response without explaining why you feel that way.

It's not a "negative response", it's not "your" thread, and I didn't "blurt" out anything. I simply happen to disagree with your opinion, the reason being that I consider many other actors to be preferrable for the role, and that I have never considered The Joker to be either Hispanic or physically powerful. I'll happily admit that the fellow is a fine actor, but this smacks of a "flavour of the month" bias.

 

[Maxwell Smart]

It's not a "negative response", it's not "your" thread, and I didn't "blurt" out anything. I simply happen to disagree with your opinion, the reason being that I consider many other actors to be preferrable for the role, and that I have never considered The Joker to be either Hispanic or physically powerful. I'll happily admit that the fellow is a fine actor, but this smacks of a "flavour of the month" bias.

First of all, I recognize people have different opinions. But I find it insulting when people don't take the time to explain their opinions.

This is not a flavor of the month choice at all. Del Toro is a very, very solid actor with a distinct personality. Which is what is needed for a role like The Joker, because whoever plays him needs to have a definite PRESENSE(which I think Del Toro does). I am suggesting him for the role because I think that his performance in "Sin City" suggests he could play that kind of role. It really made me picture him as "The Joker".

And why does it matter if the actor who plays "The Joker" is Hispanic? What do you think, he is going to go around saying "ay essay Bat hombre me and my bro chewey going to **** you up mang!"? Del Toro is an ACTOR, and can play someone outside his ethnicity easily. I didn't detect an accent from him in "Sin City" AT ALL.

I'm guessing you think a Hispanic actor can't play "The Joker" because the character has white skin. That is completely devoid of logic when you consider the fact that ANY actor who plays him will be under makeup and prostetics anyway. Del Toro's skin can be easily made bone white, he isn't that dark anyway.

And besides? Who says that the character can't be Hispanic anyway? The Joker's ethnicity has never been specified, and it has jack to do with his character. His skin was stained white, his hair green, and his eyes although green could just as easily have been turned that color by the chemicals as his hair and skin. Besides, not all Latin people are dark. Lots of Spaniards have blonde hair and green eyes.

 

[HarleyLover]

A fine choice. When I think about who could do a particular character justice, it's important not to think stereotypically. If you're thinking of candidates for Batman, you've got to think of someone who can really bring the intensity. Michael Keaton and Christian Bale, while being completely different physically and in their nuances as actors, both have shown that "something" that you need to pull off Batman.

For the Joker, I wouldn't go straight for only tall, lanky men with large noses. Just like I wouldn't go for only men with jet black hair and the body of a Greek God for Batman.

There are a bunch of guys I'd like to see as the Joker, most of them are actors with a sort of oddball sensibility, they don't all look exactly like how the Joker looks on the page, but they've got that "something."

Crispin Glover, Johnny Depp, Justin Theroux, Robert Downey Jr, to name a few.

 

[DDRSkata]

I'm going to disagree. Physically and in terms of acting ability, he'd do well. But you can still hear his accent in his voice, even if barely, and that kind of took me out of Sin City a little and would definitely do the same for Batman.

 

[Maxwell Smart]

I'm going to disagree. Physically and in terms of acting ability, he'd do well. But you can still hear his accent in his voice, even if barely, and that kind of took me out of Sin City a little and would definitely do the same for Batman.

His accent isn't there at all. It just isn't. (In Sin City)

Hes a fine actor, and he did a great gritty voice for Sin City, his voice in Fear and Loathing didn't sound Spanish at all either.

EDIT: I would have expected you to back me up after your Robin thread..Its a two-way street.

 

[BatmanRules33]

oh God, Benicio Del Toro, OH God.......i dont think i have to explain myself this time for why i dont think he'd be joker AT ALL.

 

[Matis17]

I could deffinitely get behind this. Sin City really proved to me that he could do the character justice.

 

[Maxwell Smart]

oh God, Benicio Del Toro, OH God.......i dont think i have to explain myself this time for why i dont think he'd be joker AT ALL.

No..you do. If you think its because he is Hispanic, I've already provided a strong argument against that.

If thats not it..than what?

 

[BatmanRules33]

wow, after seeing him in all his movies, hes just too damn serious of a guy to be joker. i mean, everyone accepted nicholson cuz hes known for his "wackiness", thats why hes called "jack the wack". but this guy? hes soo weeeird. not in a funny, joking way, hes a creep! joker doesnt look like a creep, well he does in a way, but not in the creepy way del toro has,he has a veery serious creepiness about him that just doesnt fit with a joker. and im srry about sayin this, but even if he could cover up his accent well, he still LOOKS hispanic and he will always look hispanic cuz he IS hispanic and everyone knows that, even though there isnt a comic that SAYS he american, there isnt a comic that has him REMOTLY looking hispoanic, therefore everyone knows how joker should look, and trust me, its not hispanic. im not a racist, but i just wouldnt want a hispanic joker cuz it just wouldnt look riught, especially with del toro. i heavily heavily heavily doubt Nolan would ever ever ever even THINK about using del toro, heck, we dont even know if he will use joker in the next bat film, so why say anything about it?

 

[Maxwell Smart]

wow, after seeing him in all his movies, hes just too damn serious of a guy to be joker. i mean, everyone accepted nicholson cuz hes known for his "wackiness", thats why hes called "jack the wack". but this guy? hes soo weeeird. not in a funny, joking way, hes a creep! joker doesnt look like a creep, well he does in a way, but not in the creepy way del toro has,he has a veery serious creepiness about him that just doesnt fit with a joker. and im srry about sayin this, but even if he could cover up his accent well, he still LOOKS hispanic and he will always look hispanic cuz he IS hispanic and everyone knows that, even though there isnt a comic that SAYS he american, there isnt a comic that has him REMOTLY looking hispoanic, therefore everyone knows how joker should look, and trust me, its not hispanic. im not a racist, but i just wouldnt want a hispanic joker cuz it just wouldnt look riught, especially with del toro. i heavily heavily heavily doubt Nolan would ever ever ever even THINK about using del toro, heck, we dont even know if he will use joker in the next bat film, so why say anything about it?

JESUS CHRIST.

I mean God if you had posted a half-respectable argument..but that was one of the biggest blocks of drivel I've ever seen. I'd be embarassed to post **** like that.

Where do I even begin?

First, Benicio Del Toro can't be wacky? I don't think he was exactly the pinnacle of seriousness in Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas. And I must ask, have you actually seen Sin City? You really should if you haven't. I don't see how you can watch the "Car ride scene" with him and Clive Owen(you all know the one) and not think he can be both creepy and funny at the same time quite well.

And how does he "LOOK hispanic"? What does a hispanic look like? A hispanic can be black, white, brown. They can have blue eyes, green eyes, brown eyes etc. From the way Del Toro "looks" you could just as easily call him Greek, or Lebanese, or even Irish or Welsh. Have you never heard of Dark Irish? George Clooney is a dark-skinned Irishmen. Many Welsh people(like Catherine Zeta-Jones) are known for looking very mediterranean. So its rather silly to say someone of a certain ethnicity is going to always look a certain way. I am Welsh, Scots-Irish, and a smittering Native American, and I've been mistaken for Italian I can't even tell you how many times.

So even if it was determined that The Joker is of Northern European ancestry(which it never has been), he still would not necessarily be light-skinned. And here is the BIG POINT against your argument..

IT DOESN'T ****ING MATTER WHETHER HE IS WHITE OR BROWN-SKINNED ANYWAY BECAUSE HIS SKIN IS STAINED BONE-WHITE FROM CHEMICALS.

Any actor who plays The Joker would go under heavy make-up and prostetics. Did you know the guy who played The Joker in the 60s television show was a Cuban? You see, make-up covers up things, including skin color.

Most people aren't as ignorant as yourself, so no they won't care if hes Hispanic(so it doesn't matter that everyone "knows he is Hispanic").

And if you aren't racist, why did you feel the need to say you weren't?

 

[Postman]

I think he's saying he has hispanic features, but if he can't get past that its his loss. If Bececio is cast I don't see how anyone could complain. He's one of the best actors around. He could bring a creepy evil Joker alive and at the same time make him funny w/o being camp. I don't see how anyone could have a problem with Del Toro I guess if they can't get past his race which imo is sad.

 

[GL-Corps#28]

The thing with Joker is, there are actually probably abround 15 to 20 actors who could do an amazing job with the role, it's just a matter of choosing one.

Del Toro is a fine choice for Joker. I've also heard him suggested for Bane, based on the assumption that some kind of technology would be used to incorporate a freakishly muscular body.

 

[Quietstorm]

I didn't hear his accent AT ALL in Sin City. If you told those people in the theater(around my way) that he is latin, they wouldn't have never guessed it.

 

[BatmanRules33]

well, we all have opinons, and I SAY that del toro would NOT be a good joker, just cant picture him. and alot of ppl all over the world know joker as a white american looking normal guy, not some hispanic, heavy irish, indian, itailian, blah blah blah you get the point, now i dont neccassarily have anything to back up my argument that he would be a bad joker, but neither can anyone have a good argument abouit whether he'd be a good joker either, since he hasnt played joker at all, so really it comes down to the matter of OPINION, and MY opinon is that he would suck as joker, i just cannot imagine him as joker for reason beyond me, so thats all im gonna say for the rest of this thread if i can help it.

 

[Nightwing5]

The thing with Joker is, there are actually probably abround 15 to 20 actors who could do an amazing job with the role, it's just a matter of choosing one.

There are about 13 people that get thrown around:

1.Johnny Depp
2.Benicio Del Toro
3.Adrien Brody
4.Jude Law
5.Christopher Eccleston
6.Paul Bettany
7.Tim Roth
8.Justin Theroux
9.Crispin Glover
10.Steve Buscemi
11.John Turturro
12.Lachy Hulme
13.Willem Dafoe

I do no support all of them, but there are a few on there I think could be good.

 

[BatmanRules33]

william defoe would most likely not be eligible for a joker part, cuz he was already a villian in another big comic book movie, i doubt they would use him again in another CB movie in the same way almost. i dont think they would want to connect him with spiderman, but he plays awsome villian though! what im confused about is jude law (?),whats he doing on there, lol?

 

[super scar]