RokMeAmadeus
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This is exactly what I took out of it.
IMO the story is great, but the musical aspects were just so poorly integrated making for a grueling and often cringe inducing experience. And I love musicals.
It wasn’t the raw amateur singing. That can be an effective choice in a musical. It was simply the lack of narrative function.
Annette with Adam Driver is sort of what I was hoping this would be more like. Wild, raw, weird.
You're blaming the actor for the material. The performance that's given is exactly what the script calls for. The world Fleck lives in is so cartoonishly cruel to him, there's no joy to be found.No, I understand that's the point of the movie, but I just find his performance doesn't have any spark to it until the very end of the movie. His Joker is a joyless character.
The D cinemascore and Rotten Tomatoes.... yikes. WB is really having it with their DC movies lately. Those are just dismal results.
IMHO considering most of the musical numbers are like fantasy sequences happening in the characters' imaginations, they should've been bolder and better done.
Now, also I think Phoenix probably should've been dubbed over for his lyrics. His voice did not sound good. These are fantasy imagination sequences, it's OK if his voice sounds more bombastic. It's clearly not him singing Burt Bacharach in the opening for example.
Even as dull as it is, I really don’t think it’s worse than films like Shazam 2, Aquaman 2, Black Adam, Antman Quantumania etc etc
The production value, cinematography, and acting alone beats those.
I know I'm probably giving Phillips too much credit, but I feel like things were deliberate choices for that very reason. The more I read about this movie, the more I think he intentionally Joe Dante'd the film.I find it ironic that the first movie and the people who made it really catered to the Martin Scorsese "comic book movies are not real cinema" crowd, and ultimately once it became a billion dollar grosser the sequel fell into the same traps and tropes that a lot of generic comic book movies fall into, like introducing legacy characters like Harley Quinn and Harvey Dent (because its now a franchise), setting up Harvey Dent to become Two-Face by having half his face get blown up in the court room, and tying into The Dark Knight Trilogy by having Arthur get killed by Heath Ledger's Joker, or hints at it .
So in the end, this "franchise" becomes the very thing it was supposed to be the antithesis of: Just another Batman franchise.
Kill myself.What is KMS?