Joker (Graphic Novel)

People fail to see the importance of this story. The most significant theme is how it is like to be close to the Joker. Its frightening and the guy is a complete phscopath, this book shows that so well.


oh and why wouldnt the Joker cry in private?
 
Because crying shows remorse for actions.
 
hes just troubled.....
see, you're going to have to explain your reasoning cause the author sure as **** didnt.
 
new riddler and croc suck

I actually liked the new croc as far as realism. Riddler was kinda, eh. Penguin was also a neat take. I also really like Lee's Batman. Anyways, I thoroughly enjoyed this novel and plan to pick up a few more of his works.
 
People fail to see the importance of this story. The most significant theme is how it is like to be close to the Joker. Its frightening and the guy is a complete phscopath, this book shows that so well.


oh and why wouldnt the Joker cry in private?

But why would any one work for the Joker in the first place? Why doesn't one of his henchmen try shooting him after Joker kills some of his buddies?
 
Because villains are a cowardly and superstitious lot. Duh.
 
But why would any one work for the Joker in the first place? Why doesn't one of his henchmen try shooting him after Joker kills some of his buddies?

There are usually three reasons why anyone works for The Joker that are commonly accepted by fans.

1. Money. Despite the fact that he's nutty as a fruitcake, the fact is that when he decides to actually commit a crime with some form of gain, he is one hell of a thief, and has more than enough cash lying around to pay henchmen buttloads. And there are some people out there who would, to varying degrees, be willing to look the other way when they see all those unmarked bills.

2. Hero worship. For whatever reason, they think he's the hottest thing since flamethrowers were invented. Impressionable minds that either he has manipulated, or have come to him on their own, who look at him almost as a god or messiah figure. Sort of a Manson Family thing going on. Maybe they see him as a philosopher terrorist who sticks it to the man who desperately needs sticking to. Maybe they dig the fact that he has completely abandoned any notions or morality or sanity, as they see them as hindering and outdated. And maybe they think that he's simply a madman who acts on behalf of the greater truth of madness itself. In any event, they think he's bigger than sliced bread.

3. Madness. Something of an extension of the hero worship, as some of his groupies are probably impressionable because they're kind of crazy. Basically, the henchmen here are about as crazy as The Joker is, or crazy enough in a different way that they simply don't see the problem with what he does. They work with him because they think like him, or even if they don't, think differently enough from everyone else that they have an easier time co-existing with The Joker.
 
There are usually three reasons why anyone works for The Joker that are commonly accepted by fans.

1. Money. Despite the fact that he's nutty as a fruitcake, the fact is that when he decides to actually commit a crime with some form of gain, he is one hell of a thief, and has more than enough cash lying around to pay henchmen buttloads. And there are some people out there who would, to varying degrees, be willing to look the other way when they see all those unmarked bills.

2. Hero worship. For whatever reason, they think he's the hottest thing since flamethrowers were invented. Impressionable minds that either he has manipulated, or have come to him on their own, who look at him almost as a god or messiah figure. Sort of a Manson Family thing going on. Maybe they see him as a philosopher terrorist who sticks it to the man who desperately needs sticking to. Maybe they dig the fact that he has completely abandoned any notions or morality or sanity, as they see them as hindering and outdated. And maybe they think that he's simply a madman who acts on behalf of the greater truth of madness itself. In any event, they think he's bigger than sliced bread.

3. Madness. Something of an extension of the hero worship, as some of his groupies are probably impressionable because they're kind of crazy. Basically, the henchmen here are about as crazy as The Joker is, or crazy enough in a different way that they simply don't see the problem with what he does. They work with him because they think like him, or even if they don't, think differently enough from everyone else that they have an easier time co-existing with The Joker.

But the fact is if Joker goes around skinning his guys alive for no reason, then reasons 1 and 2 are irrelevant, the hero worship would likely end and money is worthless if you are dead. If money is the objective, then why not just shoot Joker and take all his money. If some of these guys are crazy, why don't they shoot Joker for no reason. seriously it makes no sense that anyone work for him at this point.

Because villains are a cowardly and superstitious lot. Duh.

I think you are confusing with being cowardly with having a death wish, do Joker's guys have no self preservation skills.
 
Why don't you go shoot a mafia boss and steal his money. That's the kinda power you can't buy. It's the powa a fear.
 
But the fact is if Joker goes around skinning his guys alive for no reason, then reasons 1 and 2 are irrelevant, the hero worship would likely end and money is worthless if you are dead. If money is the objective, then why not just shoot Joker and take all his money. If some of these guys are crazy, why don't they shoot Joker for no reason. seriously it makes no sense that anyone work for him at this point.

For the first reason, yeah, money only goes so far. As for reason number two, the idea behind that is that people look at him with that kind of reverence because he does stuff like skin people alive for no reason. For some reason, they think that's the way to go, and are able to convince themselves that it won't happen to them, either through their own self delusions or The Joker's manipulation. Or both. And reason number three, just because they're insane doesn't automatically mean they're going to shoot The Joker for no reason. They may not be crazy in that way.
 
Man, I loved this book. Completely psychotic and brilliant. I didn't get the Croc design at first, but it grew on me. really dug the Two-Face and Penguin angles. Riddler was useful for giving Joker another great line. Harley Quinn is crazy sexy. The art didn't jar me the way it has some other readers. I would love to see Bermejo's work again and again.

The main point of the story for me was that Joker and Batman are forever attached to Gotham City. Since this is a Joker book, he is seen and heard from a lot, but even when he's not on panel his prescence is felt. Same thing with Batman. Even though he shows up briefly in the book, his prescence is always felt. The realization that it is dangerous and destructive to become apart of that world is brilliant and rarely seen from a citizen psychological standpoint.

I will be recommending this book to anyone who likes the Batman universe and especially to anyone who dug "The Dark Knight".
 
This book is ****ing awesome. Anyone else feel like this is Jokers epilogue fom TDk(with the exception of 2face)
 

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