Jordan Peele’’s 'Us'

[redhawk23]

lol @ Shyamalan trying to be relevant

His self financed $20m movie made $246m dollars. Shyamalan is doing just fine.

 

[redhawk23]

lol @ Shyamalan trying to be relevant

His self financed $20m movie made $246m dollars. Shyamalan is doing just fine.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Really? not lazy?

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1. What happens to the clone when a real person flies from point A to point B?
2. How do the clones not die of disease or child birth?
3. Why are the tunnels so clean if the experiment is 'abandonded'?
4. Why have Red speculate it was abandoned and not just leave it be without explanation to avoid plot holes?
5. Why would a government just abandon this experiment without getting rid of the clones?
6. Why wasn't the entry to the tunnels guarded?
7. How come this clone was the only one to managed to get out? There was just one power failure in 30 years?
8. Real Adelaide didn't find a way out for 30 years?
9. Why don't the authorities just shoot the clones doing the Hand Across the America thing?

Then you have a whole bunch of people writing weird theories like Jason is a clone even tho it makes no damn sense just because they didn't get the youngest clone was the most feral/most prone to copying. The script is a damn mess

those just off the top of my head. That's about all the time I am willing to spend tying to make sense of this. You have dozens of people online confused not because this is brilliant but because it is filled with gaping holes, inconsistencies and leaps of faith.

These are fair points. But I also feel like people glossed over the plot holes in Get Out. Or perhaps simply the sheer ridiculousness of the idea that one guy and his son could perform brain transplants in their basement without any other help in the surgery. I hate to say it, but that was the point where Get Out kinda jumped the shark for me. The movie really had me up until that point, and then I was like, "Really?" And the common excuse I get from anyone when I bring this up is, "Well, it's a horror movie." Yeah, I get that. But for something that was also a good social commentary, I found this to just be too silly to take seriously. At the very least, I feel it keeps the film from having a "perfect" script like everyone always says it has.

To be clear, I still think Get Out is a really good movie but I was just really disappointed in the ending.

 

[MadVillainy]

Just read that this is the highest debut for an "original movie" since Avatar in 2009.

 

[harlequinade]

These are fair points. But I also feel like people glossed over the plot holes in Get Out. Or perhaps simply the sheer ridiculousness of the idea that one guy and his son could perform brain transplants in their basement without any other help in the surgery. I hate to say it, but that was the point where Get Out kinda jumped the shark for me. The movie really had me up until that point, and then I was like, "Really?" And the common excuse I get from anyone when I bring this up is, "Well, it's a horror movie." Yeah, I get that. But for something that was also a good social commentary, I found this to just be too silly to take seriously. At the very least, I feel it keeps the film from having a "perfect" script like everyone always says it has.

To be clear, I still think Get Out is a really good movie but I was just really disappointed in the ending.

Both films have ridiculous sci-fi core ideas 1. brain surgery that transfers subconscious

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2. clones that mimic the real people

. Us has no internal logic and has plenty of stuff that just doesn't work within its internal universe Peele created. The ONLY plot hole with GO for me was that no one was knocking on Armitages' doors in spite of Rose seducing all those dudes and them disappearing but even there there was a scene establishing cops as not caring that much about other black man that went missing. Us has just way too many plots holes to be taken seriously. It's not consistent, it doesn't create believable universe

 

[Boy Scout]

Most of those complaints about it being a “lazy script” are nitpicks that you’d probably find in any movie. If you didn’t like the movie, that’s totally fair, but I don’t think it was lazily written at all.

 

[Boom]

If I'm honest, I really didn't care for this. It was tense at times but I never found it particularly scary. And the entire mythology behind the Tethered felt half-baked.

I dunno. Walked away from it with little-to-no desire to see it again.

 

[harlequinade]

Most of those complaints about it being a “lazy script” are nitpicks that you’d probably find in any movie. If you didn’t like the movie, that’s totally fair, but I don’t think it was lazily written at all.

Not in Get Out.

 

[Boy Scout]

That’s...one movie out of the millions that have ever been made.

 

[Deck Rickard]

All I know is, I need them to get to work on the crossover!

VS.

#ExpandedPronounUniverse

 

[harlequinade]

That’s...one movie out of the millions that have ever been made.

Am I supposed to list all that are better written? I watch a lot of movies and I read a lot of scripts. I gave the example of great script written by the same writer. I was really looking forward to this and I am astonished Peele was satisfied delivering the audience something this half baked.

 

[Pond]

Most of those complaints about it being a “lazy script” are nitpicks that you’d probably find in any movie. If you didn’t like the movie, that’s totally fair, but I don’t think it was lazily written at all.

I think the main problem many people are having is that the movie is neither fully explained nor is it totally unexplained. It stays in a grey area where some things get explained (and even then, just sort of) but some stay abstract and open. There is a semblance of a sci fi concept going on, but also many indications that something supernaturall is at works too.

I think it works both beautifully and brilliantly, but it sets the movie in a sort of netherworld or dream-state that seems to put people who want one thing or the oher off. It intentionally puts you in a world where things get a general shape, but you are not sure that of that shape, so that is unsettling and part of the charm of the movie.

In a way, it is very similar to what some people are arguing here about Get Out and the whole father and son surgery procedure in your basement. Get Out was a proud peace of PULP. A mad doctor story suddenly spoted in the middle of the modern world. It was crazy and absurd, and I LOVED it for it. Watching a Weird Tales story from the pulp golden years with social comentary ambitions and first rate tecnicakl sjkill ,set in current times, needs you to be in that mindset tough. If you are looking for smething more real you will be booted out of the film by force.

 

[:eek:]

All I know is, I need them to get to work on the crossover!

VS.

#ExpandedPronounUniverse

 

[Deck Rickard]

 

[CaptainWagner]

I didn't have any problems with the script. The group I went with all loved it and want to see it again. Very well made, with stellar performances. Lupita is definitely the first player in the Oscar race this year, and I'm still so happy to see Winston Duke's star continue to rise. I've been rooting for him ever since his spot on Person of Interest.

 

[Kane52630]

Someone mentioned that the tunnels was suppose to also represent the prison system and now I feel like I need to see it again.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

I’ve seen some people complain that this should’ve just stayed supernatural for the explanation. However, I think it doesn’t work as well despite the lack of definite explanation. I’m a white guy, nearly 30, and I wasn’t too impressed with Get Out, but I didn’t think it was a bad film. I did realize that I related as a human but I wasn’t quite scared by GO because I didn’t have those experience to be scared by, those relating specifically to race.
How does this relate to US? Because it has messages about change in America, but its core scares come from people. We invent monsters and ghosts to scare us, but sometimes, especially for minorities, the fears come from people, and some people have to live with those fears every day. They could’ve been aliens or ghosts or a projection of our souls, but people can be scary, and that is what the movie wanted us to be scared of: Us.

 

[Boy Scout]

Am I supposed to list all that are better written?

Go for it. I won’t stop you. But my point was that what you’re calling lazy would happen in a lot of other movies. Giving an example of one movie where little inconsistencies (maybe) don’t happen doesn’t change that.

I think the main problem many people are having is that the movie is neither fully explained nor is it totally unexplained. It stays in a grey area where some things get explained (and even then, just sort of) but some stay abstract and open. There is a semblance of a sci fi concept going on, but also many indications that something supernaturall is at works too.

That’s a complaint that I both agree with and understand. The complaints I addressed with the poster above were different issues.

 

[Kane52630]

Double Toasted has a video up on yt that brings up some good points and valid criticism.

 

[Lasirius]

Saw it last night. Having seen an advance preview while the film was in post-production, I'll be that guy and say that I preferred the first version of the film. Nothing really changed other than the way it was edited and a couple of things added in, especially some of the exposition in the ending provided by Red. It was originally left a little more ambiguous which made it a lot more thought-provoking.

The story doesn't deviate though, I still really liked it. I'd say 8.5/10 when I first rated it a 9/10.

 

[jolldan]

Just out from seeing this.

First two acts were enjoyable enough although it felt like it did take a while to get going.

Third act it really started to feel silly at times. Think it would have been much better if it hadn’t made so many have a tether and they had just kept it the counterpart of the family.

Also I and most of my friends called the twist very early on (and we usually suck at this)

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

It was an okay episode of the Twilight Zone.

Lupita deserves at the very least an Academy Award nomination for this movie though. She and the kids were great.

 

[DeadStroke]

Someone mentioned that the tunnels was suppose to also represent the prison system and now I feel like I need to see it again.

Funny you mention that since the red outfits look like prison garb.

 

[MadVillainy]

I don't think it's prison or at least if it's a prison allegory there was a lot more, even subtly they could have/should have done.

 

[jmc]

It's almost like you.....you can still have box office success with original ideas.........what a crazy notion.