Jurassic Park IV - Part 1

[Rez]

that scene where the t-rex roars with the san diego skyline behind him is so iconic to me.

Always hought that this, along with the "Now you're John Hammond/" should have been the end of the movie. That way you avoid the campy trash of the rest of the final act, and set up a third film of pure dinosaur mainland madness. The comedy bits in the Rex in the City scene might actually even work spread out across an entire film, but taking up the entire end of the film one right after another ruined any impact the scenes might have had, as well as ruining an otherwise semi decent film.

Also, consider me the world's greatest champiion of a Cadillacs & DInosaurs Xenozoic Tales film. I really don't know why it hasn't happened(or didn't, especially with the big marketing push in the 90s). The thing is a license to print money, and has always been my #1 dream film

 

[Doctor Jones]

Ah, but if you cut it out we would have never gotten the epic response from Sarah's slow down line.

"Auhhh... I don't think so."

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Always hought that this, along with the "Now you're John Hammond/" should have been the end of the movie. That way you avoid the campy trash of the rest of the final act, and set up a third film of pure dinosaur mainland madness. The comedy bits in the Rex in the City scene might actually even work spread out across an entire film, but taking up the entire end of the film one right after another ruined any impact the scenes might have had, as well as ruining an otherwise semi decent film.

Also, consider me the world's greatest champiion of a Cadillacs & DInosaurs Xenozoic Tales film. I really don't know why it hasn't happened(or didn't, especially with the big marketing push in the 90s). The thing is a license to print money, and has always been my #1 dream film

I agree. That would have been better if The lost World ended with the T- Rex roaring at the city skyline and Ian telling the ingen guy (forgot his name) " Now your John Hammond". Then the third movie picking up with the T- Rex and some Raptors running around the city.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

that scene where the t-rex roars with the san diego skyline behind him is so iconic to me.

Agreed completly. That and the scene at the end of the first film where the T-Rex roars after killing the raptors.

 

[Thundercrack85]

How'd he get in there anyway? That is one silent 7.5 ton dinosaur.

I will say this for Jurassic Park 3, they did at least use some new dinosaurs.

 

[Wolfwood]

JP3's biggest crime was having the T-Rex be killed off by that new dinosaur. I loved that they finally brought in Pterodactyls though.

 

[Thundercrack85]

It was a rather lazy way of saying "look how powerful this new dinosaur is". The Worf Effect.

In real life, a fight between a Spinosaurus and a T. Rex would likely end very badly for the Spinosaurus. There are dinosaurs that could kill a T. Rex, but it would never be easy. Not that Jurassic Park cares about those kinds of things. Though the Spinosaurus is a cool dinosaur in its own right.

 

[Spider-Who?]

How'd he get in there anyway? That is one silent 7.5 ton dinosaur.

I will say this for Jurassic Park 3, they did at least use some new dinosaurs.

If you look behind the t Rex as the camera pans to show everyone running away, there are large, double doors right behind the Rex that are wide open. He literally just had to stick his neck in, lol.

 

[Spider-Who?]

It was a rather lazy way of saying "look how powerful this new dinosaur is". The Worf Effect.

In real life, a fight between a Spinosaurus and a T. Rex would likely end very badly for the Spinosaurus. There are dinosaurs that could kill a T. Rex, but it would never be easy. Not that Jurassic Park cares about those kinds of things. Though the Spinosaurus is a cool dinosaur in its own right.

Yup. The Rex's jaws were made to crush bone. They have the strongest bite force of any land animal. Spinosaurus on the oter hand....his jaws were made to catch fish.

 

[Spider-Who?]

Also, consider me the world's greatest champiion of a Cadillacs & DInosaurs Xenozoic Tales film. I really don't know why it hasn't happened(or didn't, especially with the big marketing push in the 90s). The thing is a license to print money, and has always been my #1 dream film

I've said this a few times. I'd totally be down for it.

 

[Punisher Rising]

I think the T-Rex being killed by the Spinosaurus in JP3 can easily be explained that the T-Rex in JP3 was clearly not a fully-grown adult, so maybe at that stage in their lives, T-Rexs (at least as bred by InGen in this series) aren't nearly as strong as juveniles until they become adults. The Spinosaurus certainly could've had some genetic tampering done, too.

 

[Wolfwood]

If that's the case, it would've been great if at the end a full grown and fully pissed off T-Rex had shown up and completely crushed the Spinosaurus.

 

[Rez]

I've said this a few times. I'd totally be down for it.

This will probably only amuse, well, me, but a quick search on this site shows that I just won't let it go:

http://forums.superherohype.com/search.php?searchid=9464937

Easily more than half of the results are of me going on and on about C&D over the years. I think my second or third post on this site, ever, was about it! We should move to hollywood and get the ball rolling together.

 

[TX85]

I agree about the way Lost World should have ended,But I still think the film itself is overall a little more than decent and JP3 ain't all that great But defiantly underrated,The original is indeed my favorite But as a trilogy..It's one of my top favorites!!!

 

[John Locke]

I don't know. I mean I love the series and the first one is my favorite movie ever but I don't really count it as a trilogy. Since not one character in the second movie returns for the third one. It's not one continuing story. It's just one story with two stand alone follow ups.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Yup. The Rex's jaws were made to crush bone. They have the strongest bite force of any land animal. Spinosaurus on the oter hand....his jaws were made to catch fish.

They really should have played more to the Spinosaurus' strengths. In the water it would have been very fearsome.

I still think that it would be better now to have a big budget mini-series than a sequel.

 

[Wolf Boy]

Would love another. Just bought all the films on blu-ray and it's really sprung up a love of dinosaurs in me again, i've even started watching the Walking With Dinosaurs doco for the first time. So fascinating.

The first Jurassic is still brilliant and of my all time favs, i never tire of it. The Raptor/kitchen scene is one of the most tense things ever put on film.

Second movie is a lot of fun too, the third is enjoyable but i pretty much hated all of the characters minus Sam.

I'd love another one, as long as the film is entertaining and there lots of dino action, i'll be happy. They'll never top the first one, so i'm cool with that. I do hope we have better characters in part 4 though, the ones in 3 were so annoying.

 

[8wid]

Would a fourth film be the start of a whole new trilogy or be the last one made? The plot then will either go to the mainlands of South America in pursuit of evolving dinosaurs or back to the original islands and the threat of their extinction through some sort of disease. Can you imagine rabid and ill dinosaurs running around in this environment?

 

[Thundercrack85]

I see no point in doing a sequel. None of them have been any good and the original movie was made in 1993. That's 18 years of backstory (easily 20 by the time any movie would come out). That might not be so bad if the sequels were good, but most writers (and movie goers) would presumably want to ignore the panned sequels. If they even know of the last one.

There are a few angles they haven't explored. We have never seen the dinosaurs being created. Perhaps a protagonist who actually helped create the dinosaurs for the titular park.

 

[Rocketman]

I just don't think there's any territory in this franchise that hasn't been explored already. The idea of a 4th movie is automatically about doing something inferior than what we've had before. It's automatically a destructive process. I mean, let's be honest: What are the odds of this movie being the best of the franchise? How about the second-best?

 

[Thundercrack85]

I just don't think there's any territory in this franchise that hasn't been explored already. The idea of a 4th movie is automatically about doing something inferior than what we've had before. It's automatically a destructive process. I mean, let's be honest: What are the odds of this movie being the best of the franchise? How about the second-best?

To be fair, while the first movie won't be topped (at least, I don't see that happening), the sequels have been lousy. It's certainly possible to give the franchise another good movie.

 

[8wid]

The problem is that the point of the first film was to show the dangers of bioengineering prehistoric species for profit and entertainment. The second continued this danger by showing that life could continue to exist even if there was no nutrient to keep it going, it could evolve. The third dealt with none of this and was essentially a B-movie. A fourth movie should deal with the re-adaptation of these animals to other environment, especially those with the migration to areas where humans live. Otherwise the US air force should raze the whole thing like in the first book.

 

[Victarion]

The first book said that the dinosaurs' diet had to be carefully regulated to keep them from getting ill. A movie could play off of that by having them develope some horrid virus akin to the Black Plague, reaching the mainland and spreading it.

The only hope for a cure is to return to Isla Nublar, where there was a stock of the antivirus kept. Along the way they run into a tarzan-esque Robert Muldoon (RIP his RL actor.).

I don't think Nublar was definitively destroyed in the movie universe.

 

[Lord]

I didn't end the books but from what i heard in the end of both book they supposedly launched a virus to extinct the dinossaurs, that could be an interesting plot for the sequel

 

[Spider-Who?]

I didn't end the books but from what i heard in the end of both book they supposedly launched a virus to extinct the dinossaurs, that could be an interesting plot for the sequel

You're thinking of the lyzine deficiency the engineers gave them. The idea being that the dinosaurs would never survive on their own unless the park gave them food with the right enzymes. In the first book, the costa rican government napalmed the island. In the second book, site b is left alone at the end.