Jurassic World - Part 10

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It's also my opinion. You're free to disagree.

I agree your opinion. It shares same concept with Sharktopus and many other B movies. Also bad screen play even makes it more obvious. Even the characters are B movie characters.

Take a look at sharktopus:

"The U.S. Navy commissions a group known as "Blue Water" to genetically engineer a half-shark, half-octopus for combat. During a demonstration attacking drug traffickers off of Santa Monica, the beast called Sharktopus escapes the control of its creators and makes its way to Puerto Vallarta. Hunted by Blue Water and a television crew, Sharktopus attacks numerous beach-goers. Sharktopus is eventually defeated by detonating explosives embedded in its brain."

If anyone disagree just write all main plots /characterizations of JW movie on a paper and read out loud. You'll see it's not better than a syfy movie.

I get people can enjoy it same way they enjoy similar blockbuster movies like Transformers etc. but there is no denying this is one of those big budget /low quality movies. Just because it's not piranha 3D doesn't mean it's a worthy sequel to one of the best movies of all time.
 
Why does that make him smart?

The I-rex lured humans into his cage so that he could get out, which makes him as intelligent as the Joker in TDK since he reversed the trope. He knew to flip that giant Turtle-like dinosaur on its back. He knew to remove his tracking device.

That's how scientists think T.Rex would hunt those ankylosaurus (turtle-like ones) same way.

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Rest of it happens because it's a dumb movie. I can understand if an animal can take a device because it's uncomfortable in his skin but I-Rex does it after the escape, not in the cage. That means he probably knew that's how they'll looking for him. Also he ambushed them there that way. He knows what a tracking device is.

Same goes for his escape plan.

Raptors are smarter than dolphins and primates in Jurassic Park story but that's way too much even for highly intelligent animal. They started open doors and now they are scheming prison break.
 
Finally saw it yesterday. There was a lot to like, namely the spectacle of the park and Chris Pratt, but the movie was riddled with cliches and much of it felt forced. And I spent the last battle shaking my head at how ridiculously over the top it was, especially the Raptor stuff. Overall, it's entertaining but not very good.

I put this in the FF7 category. A mediocre movie that does enough to entertain you, and somehow makes a killing.
 
If anyone disagree just write all main plots /characterizations of JW movie on a paper and read out loud. You'll see it's not better than a syfy movie.

Lmao That's literally perhaps one of the most idiotic ways to see it. Any movie's plot can sound **** on paper.

Interstellar - Then end is near. NASA thinks the only chance is to find a new planet going through a wormhole. A middle-aged aged dad will have to save his daughter, in the past, because love trascends space-time.

Batman Begins - A kid who didn't get past over the death of mommy and daddy travels the world on his own, gets trained by a group of super-secret ninjas, but when his master turns out to be evil (schock!) and wants to destroy a city he decides to cosplay as a bat and defeat him and other thugs.

Jaws
- A super-strong, super-persistent, super-resilent and super-intelligent shark wrecks havok on a little island because the Mayor isn't smart enough to notice it's eating its inhabitants.

King Kong - The love of story between an actress who went to a mysterious island inhabited by dinosaurs and fell in love with a gigantic gorilla.
 
Sure, and you make good points but then you say "it's like a SyFy movie" as oppossed to saying "I found it to be like a SyFy movie" or "I couldn't stand it".

Comparing something we don't like to something that's considerably worse and almost universally seen as "******" is the easiest way to validate one's opinion beyond the thoughts of the rest.

With the exception of the poor characters (and even then, you bring them to the point of biased exageration - you could argue they aren't that far of from the characters of the original) all the other complains you make are extremely subjective. Yet you treat them as facts.

No suspense? A lot have pointed out that I-Rex' escape, its subsequent encounter with the AMC and the encounter with the Gyrosphere are three very suspensful scenes, well-constructed in their use of image and sound that prefer to imply instead of showing everything onscreen. No memorable scenes? Then I must have gone to the wrong third act. Or the wrong finale. No build up to anything? Sure, that mus be why the I-Rex spends the movie almost completely hidden until showing himself to the kids (and is still kept hidden in much more scenes after that). The I-Rex is almost universally considered to be a highlight and yet you call it a glorified T-Rex (admitting that you never liked the concept in the first place doesn't make you more objective) and same with the controlled raptors which are have been generally seen as a potentially-wacky concept but one that was pulled off succesfully. You also ignore every strengh, even in weaker areas (the Apatosaurs scene is a great character moment, for example).

But the thing is, I don't really care about you disliking, even hating, the movie. It's a flawed movie and there are enough flaws for some people to dislike it. At the same time, it's got enough strenghs for people to like it - It depends on whether you like some things more than others, story vs storytelling, logic vs spectacle.

But you act as if it's universally ******. You talk in absolutes, instead of trying to be more moderate. Your signature says that fans acknoledge screw-ups and fanboys make excuses, well, haters make excuses, while someone truly interesting inreviewing a film will be able to see its strenghs (even if they don't embrace them) as opposed to making excuses and comparisions to SyFy.

It's a pet peeve of mine. You've got pet peeves that prevented you from enjoying the movie in a way that wasn't Rifftrax fodder. Well, fine, but that sentence is my pet peeve and I wanted to point out I found it ignorant. Plain and simple.

Mate, it's my opinion. How I feel about it is entirely my own. The only reason it's rubbing you wrong is because you don't agree with it. If I want to make SyFy movie comparisons I'll do so and I won't apologise for it. Instead of being annoyed at what I said why don't you just accept it and move on?
 
Mate, it's my opinion. How I feel about it is entirely my own. The only reason it's rubbing you wrong is because you don't agree with it. If I want to make SyFy movie comparisons I'll do so and I won't apologise for it. Instead of being annoyed at what I said why don't you just accept it and move on?

Fine, but if you post your opinion here is for people to comment on it, and what I think about it is entirely my own then. I just wrote one sentence, you answered, and we started to argue.
 
this film has conclusively proven that quality and box office $ dont always correlate. Americans love their pop corn and cheese
 
this film has conclusively proven that quality and box office $ dont always correlate. Americans love their pop corn and cheese

Never has really just look at bayformers, however that is what summer movies are is popcorn and cheese. Summer movies are suppose to be fun and escapism from our lives for a couple hours. Granted theres more junk in recent years but last year was days of future past and winter soldier and this year mad max and jurassic world, whats wrong with that?
 
I do really feel that we as an audience have become increasingly jaded and harder to entertain. I enjoyed the bits of meta-commentary on that, but I also like that the movie didn't get lost up its own butt with the commentary and remembered to just be an entertaining thrill-ride. It was a nice balance. And I can't help but feel that the some of the reception to this movie is a result of that jadedness. Movie fans on the whole are much more hypercritical about movies now than they were 20 years ago, it's just the way it is. A lot of blockbuster movies, including the original Jurassic Park would not hold up to the level of scrutiny that gets thrown at modern blockbusters.

Now, Spielberg is a master and I'm not saying Treverrow's filmmaking is on the same level (but who knows, he could end up becoming great). However I actually completely agree with Mike Stoklasa that this felt more "Spielbergian" than even JJ's Super 8, or IMO a more successful attempt to emulate that style while also making a modern movie and not purely a nostalgia piece.
 
this film has conclusively proven that quality and box office $ dont always correlate. Americans love their pop corn and cheese

Umm...it broke international records as well. But whatever, go on and rag on Americans if you must. :whatever:
 
this film has conclusively proven that quality and box office $ dont always correlate. Americans love their pop corn and cheese
You just figured that out? Mad Max, Ex Machina and Spy are much better films than say Avengers Age of Ultron and they won't make nearly as much. And yeah your American bashing is pathetic and odd because it's a huge hit internationally.
 
I enjoyed the bits of meta-commentary on that, but I also like that the movie didn't get lost up its own butt with the commentary and remembered to just be an entertaining thrill-ride.

Instead, the movie commits the crimes it's making fun of. Audiences are jaded and want bigger, badder monsters... so here's a bigger, badder monster! Product placement is so stupid... so here's a bunch of obvious product placement! It's like... "yeah, we're part of this machine and we hate it but what are you gonna do?"
 
I do really feel that we as an audience have become increasingly jaded and harder to entertain. I enjoyed the bits of meta-commentary on that, but I also like that the movie didn't get lost up its own butt with the commentary and remembered to just be an entertaining thrill-ride. It was a nice balance. And I can't help but feel that the some of the reception to this movie is a result of that jadedness. Movie fans on the whole are much more hypercritical about movies now than they were 20 years ago, it's just the way it is. A lot of blockbuster movies, including the original Jurassic Park would not hold up to the level of scrutiny that gets thrown at modern blockbusters.

Now, Spielberg is a master and I'm not saying Treverrow's filmmaking is on the same level (but who knows, he could end up becoming great). However I actually completely agree with Mike Stoklasa that this felt more "Spielbergian" than even JJ's Super 8, or IMO a more successful attempt to emulate that style while also making a modern movie and not purely a nostalgia piece.

This.
 
Have we really become jaded? Just one month ago, a movie came out that was universally praised and on the way to becoming a classic in its genre. So... if we love the good movies and complain about the not-so-good movies, what exactly has changed?
 
I'm really hoping Jurassic World can top $600m. It's still a long shot at this point, but I'd flip hard if Pratt got a $600m movie, as well as the OW record.
 
I'm really hoping Jurassic World can top $600m. It's still a long shot at this point, but I'd flip hard if Pratt got a $600m movie, as well as the OW record.

Given the huge opening & largely positive reception, I definitely think it's possible.
 
this film has conclusively proven that quality and box office $ dont always correlate. Americans love their pop corn and cheese

International audiences are just as dumb as Americans.
 
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