Fant4stic Just got back from seeing it... Any questions?

Another question:
So it sounds like Reed & Victor decide to go through with the experiment for alcohol-fueled egotistical reasons. Does Reed have some kind of arc that leads him to realize this mistake, or does it go unmentioned & not regretted? I'm curious as to whether this falls in line with Trank's "show 'em all!" way of thinking he's expressed in interviews regarding his own origin story.
 
And thank god because that would've just been a giant, pointless FU to the fans.
 
Unless I'm forgetting something incredible, most of the 'scary new power' shots are in the trailers.

Doom's transformation is a little more interesting
He's left behind after he falls into what can only be described as green lava, and when he is seen again, his Doom-like appearance is the result of fusing with his space suit



Not that I can remember, thankfully.




I suppose it could be fixed. The cast are solid. They'd do better with a lighter tone and in the Marvel Universe though. I came out hoping this would bomb so it isn't forced into the X-Men universe.

This film is an odd case in that the original films, while terrible, actually did pretty well with the costuming and tone. Even the cast was good minus Alba. They just needed better scripts.

Ow. That's harsh. And truth be told, it probably will bomb. Only Michael bay makes critic proof films.
 
I haven't really been following any FF news or discussion so correct me if I'm wrong, but in this movie Reed, Ben, Johnny and Victor travel through space/dimensions and that's how they get their powers, right? So how exactly does Sue gain hers if she's not even part of this mission?
 
1) Does Victor get rescued by a second team and brought back to the Institute?
2) Is Victor ever referred to as "Doom"?
3) What is Victor's endgame?
4) Did you get a sense of which things were likely reshot? Was it a lot?
5) Whose powers look the best? The worst?
 
Does the [blackout]year-long jump[/blackout] come off as a blatantly obvious afterthought edit to skip over the "body horror" stuff Trank supposedly shot, possibly in an effort to avoid the darker material?

It's possible.

The year long jump felt very unnecessary. Not a lot has changed from one point to the other. The passage of time is there solely to introduce how the government has handled the group.

Another question:
So it sounds like Reed & Victor decide to go through with the experiment for alcohol-fueled egotistical reasons. Does Reed have some kind of arc that leads him to realize this mistake, or does it go unmentioned & not regretted? I'm curious as to whether this falls in line with Trank's "show 'em all!" way of thinking he's expressed in interviews regarding his own origin story.

The latter more than the former. There's a scene before the drunken expedition where Sue suggests that Reed wants to be famous. He denies this, and claims he only wants to use his inventions to help people. It's really just accepted as his character throughout the film. After the incident, he feels responsible for what happened to his friends, particularly Ben, but it's not tied into any regret over his ego.

Do they get the costumes at the end? Also can u post a plot summary of the movie. Thanks

I think they are still wearing the same suits by the end. There may have been a post credit stinger, but I didn't bother to hang around,

Plot Summary:

It's 2007, and a young Reed Richards is in school giving a presentation on his ambition to create a teleportation device. He is scolded by his teacher, who tells him that he was supposed to talk about his career ambitions and not fantasy (because the teacher is a *****e).

Ben Grimm is in the same class. We see him return home to his family's car part... place where he is smacked around by his big brother (also a *****e). Ben investigates a noise outside, and finds Reeds rummaging for parts. The two go back to Reed's home where he has built that teleportation device in his garage. They turn it on, and it works, making a toy car disappear, though it kills the power to houses all over the neighbourhood.

Jump 7 years later, and the pair are at a science fair showing off a revised version of the device. They successfully transport a toy plane away, and this time reverse the process to bring it back. The same teacher as before again scolds the boys for attempting to sell a 'magic trick' as science. Never-the-less, they catch the attention of Franklin Storm (accompanied by his adopted daughter Sue), who tells them that they are not moving the object to some undisclosed location, they are in fact transporting it back and forth between dimensions. He offers them a place at his lab, as this is the very thing his team have been working on.

Reed enrolls at the Baxter building, and Ben bids him fair well, saying that Reed is finally home. Franklin tracks down Victor, a former student who was kicked out for poor behavior. He already developed the technology to transport objects to another dimension, but could never crack the method to bring things back. He is offered another chance to be involved in the project.

Johnny Storm is injured in a street drag race, and told by his father Franklin that he has to work for him to pay back the damages to the car Franklin paid for. He is a skilled mechanic, and 'can build anything'.

They all work together and build a fully functioning dimension jumping device. The board who funds the project witness a successful test involving a monkey, and decide to move on to human subjects. They don't want to use the scientists however, and intend to pass the project over to Nasa. Victor hates those guys already, and after a few drinks, Victor, Reed and Johnny decide to make the trip first. Reed calls Ben to come with them, as he was there when Reed first dreamed up the idea.

The four of them travel to the other dimension, where Victor disrupts some volcanic green energy substance and everything goes bad. As they flee to the device, Victor falls into the substance and the rest jump into their pods. Back on earth, Sue has become aware of the unauthorised trip and helps them get back. Everything goes bang upon their arrival, and the Fantastic Four are born.

They are taken to a secure facility where their powers can be contained in seperate units. Reed hears Ben calling for help and crawls through the air vents to get to him. Alarms sound, Reed panics and escapes the facility, leaving Ben behind.

Jump ahead a year. Ben is being used as a weapon by the military. Sue and Johnny are honing their own powers. A new device is being built, and there is an uneasy relationship with the government as they do what they are told in the hopes of finding a cure. Reed is off on his own, cobbling together gadgets of his own. He is desperate to find a cure for his friends. Believing he'll be needed to fix their situation, Sue aids in the search for Reed. He is located and Ben brings him in. The two hash out their differences on the plane ride back.

A team of red shirts jump into the other dimension, and discover that Victor is still alive. They bring him back, but things go badly imediately as the distrusting and frankly crazy Victor rejects the government and goes on a murder spree. He decides humanity have already ruined their world, and he won't let them ruin 'his'. He returns to the other dimension, and opens a wormhole thing that begins sucking in the facility on earth and the surrounding area. The Fantastic Four follow him over and fight it out. Doom is eventually disintergrated in the portal and the team escape back through it before it closes.

The team then reject any more orders from the government, and are given a space to work free from intrusion. They ponder names, and there's a cheesy Age of Ultron style cut before the name is given.

Credits.
 
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It sounds like the thing I was talking about earlier is actually in the film, but maybe it was just a blink and you miss it thing?
 
It's possible.

The year long jump felt very unnecessary. Not a lot has changed from one point to the other. The passage of time is there solely to introduce how the government has handled the group.



The latter more than the former. There's a scene before the drunken expedition where Sue suggests that Reed wants to be famous. He denies this, and claims he only wants to use his inventions to help people. It's really just accepted as his character throughout the film. After the incident, he feels responsible for what happened to his friends, particularly Ben, but it's not tied into any regret over his ego.

Thanks, and damn. Does anyone have a fleshed out arc, or even a simplistic Avengers/GOTG-style "team arc" leading to some kind of change in them?
 
So Reed literally abandons his friends for a year?
 
1) Does Victor get rescued by a second team and brought back to the Institute?
2) Is Victor ever referred to as "Doom"?
3) What is Victor's endgame?
4) Did you get a sense of which things were likely reshot? Was it a lot?
5) Whose powers look the best? The worst?

1) Yes
2) Yes... In that painful, jokey way before he's turned. He's being cynical and Sue cals him Dr. Doom. He later says there is no Victor, only Doom.
3) Destroying Earth/Protecting and developing his new 'home'. Same old.
4) I didn't really. I didn't follow much of the news on this and wasn't looking though.
5) Human Torch looked good. Reed looked bad.

Ow. That's harsh. And truth be told, it probably will bomb. Only Michael bay makes critic proof films.

We'll see. I strongly doubt word of mouth will help this, but the screening I went to was pretty full.

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It sounds like the thing I was talking about earlier is actually in the film, but maybe it was just a blink and you miss it thing?

.... Hmm yeah I must have missed it. Odd, because that is so awful I surely would have remembered. Certainly not watching this again to be sure.

I haven't really been following any FF news or discussion so correct me if I'm wrong, but in this movie Reed, Ben, Johnny and Victor travel through space/dimensions and that's how they get their powers, right? So how exactly does Sue gain hers if she's not even part of this mission?

The energy that transforms them kinda, sorta comes back to earth with them. There's an explosion of sorts that occurs after the guys return. Sue is in the lab with them.
 
Plot Summary:

It's 2007, and a young Reed Richards is in school giving a presentation on his ambition to create a teleportation device. He is scolded by his teacher, who tells him that he was supposed to talk about his career ambitions and not fantasy (because the teacher is a *****e).

Ben Grimm is in the same class. We see him return home to his family's car part... place where he is smacked around by his big brother (also a *****e). Ben investigates a noise outside, and finds Reeds rummaging for parts. The two go back to Reed's home where he has built that teleportation device in his garage. They turn it on, and it works, making a toy car disappear, though it kills the power to houses all over the neighbourhood.

Jump 7 years later, and the pair are at a science fair showing off a revised version of the device. They successfully transport a toy plane away, and this time reverse the process to bring it back. The same teacher as before again scolds the boys for attempting to sell a 'magic trick' as science. Never-the-less, they catch the attention of Franklin Storm (accompanied by his adopted daughter Sue), who tells them that they are not moving the object to some undisclosed location, they are in fact transporting it back and forth between dimensions. He offers them a place at his lab, as this is the very thing his team have been working on.

Reed enrolls at the Baxter building, and Ben bids him fair well, saying that Reed is finally home. Franklin tracks down Victor, a former student who was kicked out for poor behavior. He already developed the technology to transport objects to another dimension, but could never crack the method to bring things back. He is offered another chance to be involved in the project.

Johnny Storm is injured in a street drag race, and told by his father Franklin that he has to work for him to pay back the damages to the car Franklin paid for. He is a skilled mechanic, and 'can build anything'.

They all work together and build a fully functioning dimension jumping device. The board who funds the project witness a successful test involving a monkey, and decide to move on to human subjects. They don't want to use the scientists however, and intend to pass the project over to Nasa. Victor hates those guys already, and after a few drinks, Victor, Reed and Johnny decide to make the trip first. Reed calls Ben to come with them, as he was there when Reed first dreamed up the idea.

The four of them travel to the other dimension, where Victor disrupts some volcanic green energy substance and everything goes bad. As they flee to the device, Victor falls into the substance and the rest jump into their pods. Back on earth, Sue has become aware of the unauthorised trip and helps them get back. Everything goes bang upon their arrival, and the Fantastic Four are born.

They are taken to a secure facility where their powers can be contained in seperate units. Reed hears Ben calling for help and crawls through the air vents to get to him. Alarms sound, Reed panics and escapes the facility, leaving Ben behind.

Jump ahead a year. Ben is being used as a weapon by the military. Sue and Johnny are honing their own powers. A new device is being built, and there is an uneasy relationship with the government as they do what they are told in the hopes of finding a cure. Reed is off on his own, cobbling together gadgets of his own. He is desperate to find a cure for his friends. Believing he'll be needed to fix their situation, Sue aids in the search for Reed. He is located and Ben brings him in. The two hash out their differences on the plane ride back.

A team of red shirts jump into the other dimension, and discover that Victor is still alive. They bring him back, but things go badly imediately as the distrusting and frankly crazy Victor rejects the government and goes on a murder spree. He decides humanity have already ruined their world, and he won't let them ruin 'his'. He returns to the other dimension, and opens a wormhole thing that begins sucking in the facility on earth and the surrounding area. The Fantastic Four follow him over and fight it out. Doom is eventually disintergrated in the portal and the team escape back through it before it closes.

The team then reject any more orders from the government, and are given a space to work free from intrusion. They ponder names, and there's a cheesy Age of Ultron style cut before the name is given.

Credits.

Awful.

As most have said over the past year or so, this movie truly only shares the four character names and trademark powers of the Fantastic Four. Even "Doom" is not Doom in any regard...name, origins, personality, or abilities.

The whole thing sounds so cookie-cutter, it's laughable.
 
And with that plot summary, I now can officially skip this one. Thank you sir!
 
1) Yes
2) Yes... In that painful, jokey way before he's turned. He's being cynical and Sue cals him Dr. Doom. He later says there is no Victor, only Doom.
3) Destroying Earth/Protecting and developing his new 'home'. Same old.
4) I didn't really. I didn't follow much of the news on this and wasn't looking though.
5) Human Torch looked good. Reed looked bad.
Thanks, henzINNIT, for your answers and for taking the time to write a summary.
 
And with that plot summary, I now can officially skip this one. Thank you sir!

My favourite bit is the Fox logo at the beginning. The F lingers for a moment like the X does for their X-Men films. Thought that was cute. Not a great sign when your favourite bit is technically before the film even starts however.

So Reed literally abandons his friends for a year?

Yup. He's trying to help them, and it's implied he's at least following what's going on with them, but he makes no attempt to contact them and is only found after that year because he is tracked down.

Thanks, and damn. Does anyone have a fleshed out arc, or even a simplistic Avengers/GOTG-style "team arc" leading to some kind of change in them?

Not really. That line in the trailer "He's stronger than any of us, but he's not stronger than all of us" is about as far as it goes.

Sue gets nothing. There's some strained father/son relationship stuff with Johnny and Franklin that doesn't really go anywhere. Thing is just miserable about his situation.

Thanks, henzINNIT, for your answers and for taking the time to write a summary.

My pleasure. I'll hang about for a bit longer but I should really sleep soon lol.
 
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What gets me about this, is that this synopsis is nearly identical to the first Story movie. Sure some of the details are different, but a film dedicated to them figuring out their powers and then a two minute battle with the bad guy and then them hanging around saying, "hey let's form a team!".
 
What gets me about this, is that this synopsis is nearly identical to the first Story movie. Sure some of the details are different, but a film dedicated to them figuring out their powers and then a two minute battle with the bad guy and then them hanging around saying, "hey let's form a team!".

Dare I say it? I think the first Story film was better. Neither accomplish much of anything, but at least the original had some fun with it.

Out of curiosity how did Doom sound?

I flat out don't remember. Like a villain...? He's doesn't say anything memorable, maybe that's why I'm struggling. I did quite like the actor pre-transformation though. Looked like he was about to blow up at all times. Seething.

Random observation too: The main government guy is constantly chewing. Like, the entire film. It's very distracting.
 
We really appreciate all this, henzINNIT. Thank you.
 
Dare I say it? I think the first Story film was better. Neither accomplish much of anything, but at least the original had some fun with it.



I flat out don't remember. Like a villain...? He's doesn't say anything memorable, maybe that's why I'm struggling. I did quite like the actor pre-transformation though. Looked like he was about to blow up at all times. Seething.

Random observation too: The main government guy is constantly chewing. Like, the entire film. It's very distracting.

Question, does the "Mole man" ever say/do anything that would hint towards his villainous future? Apologies if you've already answered this.
 
So Sue gets shafted... again....

I was never looking forward to this film but, I just hoped she would be good at least. :csad:
 
Plot Summary:

It's 2007, and a young Reed Richards is in school giving a presentation on his ambition to create a teleportation device. He is scolded by his teacher, who tells him that he was supposed to talk about his career ambitions and not fantasy (because the teacher is a *****e).

Ben Grimm is in the same class. We see him return home to his family's car part... place where he is smacked around by his big brother (also a *****e). Ben investigates a noise outside, and finds Reeds rummaging for parts. The two go back to Reed's home where he has built that teleportation device in his garage. They turn it on, and it works, making a toy car disappear, though it kills the power to houses all over the neighbourhood.

Jump 7 years later, and the pair are at a science fair showing off a revised version of the device. They successfully transport a toy plane away, and this time reverse the process to bring it back. The same teacher as before again scolds the boys for attempting to sell a 'magic trick' as science. Never-the-less, they catch the attention of Franklin Storm (accompanied by his adopted daughter Sue), who tells them that they are not moving the object to some undisclosed location, they are in fact transporting it back and forth between dimensions. He offers them a place at his lab, as this is the very thing his team have been working on.

Reed enrolls at the Baxter building, and Ben bids him fair well, saying that Reed is finally home. Franklin tracks down Victor, a former student who was kicked out for poor behavior. He already developed the technology to transport objects to another dimension, but could never crack the method to bring things back. He is offered another chance to be involved in the project.

Johnny Storm is injured in a street drag race, and told by his father Franklin that he has to work for him to pay back the damages to the car Franklin paid for. He is a skilled mechanic, and 'can build anything'.

They all work together and build a fully functioning dimension jumping device. The board who funds the project witness a successful test involving a monkey, and decide to move on to human subjects. They don't want to use the scientists however, and intend to pass the project over to Nasa. Victor hates those guys already, and after a few drinks, Victor, Reed and Johnny decide to make the trip first. Reed calls Ben to come with them, as he was there when Reed first dreamed up the idea.

The four of them travel to the other dimension, where Victor disrupts some volcanic green energy substance and everything goes bad. As they flee to the device, Victor falls into the substance and the rest jump into their pods. Back on earth, Sue has become aware of the unauthorised trip and helps them get back. Everything goes bang upon their arrival, and the Fantastic Four are born.

They are taken to a secure facility where their powers can be contained in seperate units. Reed hears Ben calling for help and crawls through the air vents to get to him. Alarms sound, Reed panics and escapes the facility, leaving Ben behind.

Jump ahead a year. Ben is being used as a weapon by the military. Sue and Johnny are honing their own powers. A new device is being built, and there is an uneasy relationship with the government as they do what they are told in the hopes of finding a cure. Reed is off on his own, cobbling together gadgets of his own. He is desperate to find a cure for his friends. Believing he'll be needed to fix their situation, Sue aids in the search for Reed. He is located and Ben brings him in. The two hash out their differences on the plane ride back.

A team of red shirts jump into the other dimension, and discover that Victor is still alive. They bring him back, but things go badly imediately as the distrusting and frankly crazy Victor rejects the government and goes on a murder spree. He decides humanity have already ruined their world, and he won't let them ruin 'his'. He returns to the other dimension, and opens a wormhole thing that begins sucking in the facility on earth and the surrounding area. The Fantastic Four follow him over and fight it out. Doom is eventually disintergrated in the portal and the team escape back through it before it closes.

The team then reject any more orders from the government, and are given a space to work free from intrusion. They ponder names, and there's a cheesy Age of Ultron style cut before the name is given.

Credits.

So they made Doom some sort of
Annihilus
 
Awful.

As most have said over the past year or so, this movie truly only shares the four character names and trademark powers of the Fantastic Four. Even "Doom" is not Doom in any regard...name, origins, personality, or abilities.

The whole thing sounds so cookie-cutter, it's laughable.

Sounds like Trank could've just create his own superheroes for this movie since this FF isn't like the one from the comics at all.
 
Thanks for this henzINNIT!

How would you particularly rate the lead fours performances?
 

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