Just Harry?

[Anti-Venom]

EDIT: I am not asking if you would like it if they just had Harry. But, given the choice, would you choose an underpacked movie or an overpacked moive? Which is worse?

Most of us agree that there was too much packed into Spidey 3. So...

Would the movie have been better if it JUST had Harry as the villain? No symbiote, Venom, or Sandman.

Having just Harry would not be the ideal movie...but do you think it'd be better than what they ended up with?

At least if they did that, they could save Venom and Sandman for future films and do them right. In the comics, Harry screwed with Peter for a while. Not attacking him, but just doing things to drive him nuts. Like casually flying by on his glider, but not attacking anyone.

 

[Showtime]

No. Not just Harry.

It would have been fine if they had completed the Harry storyline, the Venom storyline, and knocked out the Sandman arc.

Besides Harry's abnormal reaction to amnesia, he was the best character in the movie. Venom, if developed, could have been the best Spiderman villian yet. The problem is Venom wasn't even in the movie, a freakin Bizzaro Spiderman was cast instead.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I love that they had Venom, Sandman, the Symbiote, and Harry as villians. and I think if Harry was the only Villian in Spider-man3 then that wouldn't work because like in the Comics, when Harry died he and Peter held hands and talked to eachother in the ambulance and that wouldn't have happened in the film. not to mention it would have been better to see more than one villian because I have always wanted to see Venom and Sandman and the whole Symbiote storyline on film.

 

[webhead731]

If it were just Harry this would be a short ass movie.

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

No. Not just Harry.

It would have been fine if they had completed the Harry storyline, the Venom storyline, and knocked out the Sandman arc.

Besides Harry's abnormal reaction to amnesia, he was the best character in the movie. Venom, if developed, could have been the best Spiderman villian yet. The problem is Venom wasn't even in the movie, a freakin Bizzaro Spiderman was cast instead.

i completely agree

 

[Anti-Venom]

"Short-ass movie"? There are tons of stuff in the comics that they didn't include at all. Probably because they had to squeeze in all the Venom and Sandman stuff.

I don't like the idea of just Harry either. But I think it would not have been as bad as what happened. I would much prefer they save Venom for a later movie and do him right.

I think the ideal SM3 movie is Harry, symbiote, and maybe Venom (might wanna save him for SM4). But underpacked is better than overpacked.

 

[Leenie]

It certainly wouldn't have hurt the film if Sandman or Venom was cut out of the film. I liked both villains, but I would have LOVED it if the original idea of a two-parter had pulled through.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Thing is, the story isn't about Venom, or the Sandman. It's about Peter. So if you take out the villains, you take out Peter's rage against the Sandman, and the black suit making his turn to the Dark Side.

The story works great as it is. If you seriously went into the film expecting to see a biopic of Venom, then more fool you.

 

[pjspider1C]

As much as I loved Sandman in the film, it might have been stronger if he were removed. Have Harry do something bad to MJ, and then have Peter seek revenge on Harry. Still do the same Black Suit & Venom thing, just kind of transfer the purpose of Sandman over to Harry... don't know if that would work or not...

 

[DACrowe]

It probably would have been strongest with the removal of Venom and maybe leaving the symbiote.

But someone needed to be there to kill Harry that he needed to team with Spidey against b/c just his own trap his not cinematic enough and would seem even mmmore forced if he turned to help him in a movie.

 

[Showtime]

Thing is, the story isn't about Venom, or the Sandman. It's about Peter. So if you take out the villains, you take out Peter's rage against the Sandman, and the black suit making his turn to the Dark Side.

The story works great as it is. If you seriously went into the film expecting to see a biopic of Venom, then more fool you.

The story working out great is debatable, I happen to disagree and I was suprised Raimi would craft a story like this one after Spiderman and Spiderman 2.

The story is always about Peter, just as Spiderman and Spiderman 2 were, but the ridiculous way that Sandman was connected as being Ben's killer was an after thought and a poorly executed afterthought if you ask me. Sure there were parts of Spiderman 3 that were nicely done, but for me, it disappointed me to all hell.

 

[Man-E-Toys]

i would have had harry & sandman as the main villains. introduce brock right from the beginning. have peter get the symbiote during the middle of the film. final fight would be sandman vs. peter. and like the movie, have spider-man getting his ass kicked, then harry has a change of heart and helps spider-man defeat sandman but not before dieing. peter gets rid of the symbiote at the very end at the church bell tower and it falls on brock. the end. save venom entirely for SM4.

 

[nirvamets]

i would have had harry & sandman as the main villains. introduce brock right from the beginning. have peter get the symbiote during the middle of the film. final fight would be sandman vs. peter. and like the movie, have spider-man getting his ass kicked, then harry has a change of heart and helps spider-man defeat sandman but not before dieing. peter gets rid of the symbiote at the very end at the church bell tower and it falls on brock. the end. save venom entirely for SM4.

That's almost perfect. The only change, would be instead of the church bell symbiote falls on brock story, I would have liked after Peter takes off the black suit of on the bell tower, the symbiote searching for Peter during the last fight against sandman and merging with brock while he is taking pictures of spiderman during the fight, because he wanted to redem himsef with Jamerson. Then after Peter and Harry defeated Sandman, make Harry die form an overdose of the performance enchancers and close the film in a scene in which Eddie is looking at Peter with hate from a building when Peter is at Harry's funneral. Then Eddie transforms into Venom and says "I'm going to eat your brains out Parker" and the end. That would have been perfect. Those idiots with 250 million and all those resources and can't make a good movie.

 

[GoldGoblin]

They should of made Black Cat in this movie instead of Venom and Gwen.Make black spidey falls for Black Cat over MJ,so basically Black Cat is black spidey's girlfriend.

Then You could have Harry and Sandman team up against black spidey and Black Cat.Then the ending of the fight could be where black spidey all of a sudden reveals razor sharp teeth and bites Sandman and Harry retreats from the fight when he sees what Peter has done.

Then black spidey tells Black Cat that he is gonna go after Harry alone,because it's personal.

Then the last fight would be at Harry's place.Where black spidey is asking Harry why he left the fight,because it's not finished until one of them is dead.

Then after the fight black spidey goes to the church to take off the symbiote because he thinks the suit has made him kill his friend Harry.And you would have a cool cliffhanger as we see black spidey take off the symbiote and it attaches to Brock to create the villain Venom for SM4.

But in SM4 regular spidey doesn't want anything to do with Black Cat,and she becomes pyschotic when regular spidey rejects her.So in a way the symbiote has created two villains.

Then you could have Harry show up when spidey is getting beaten to death by Venom and Black Cat.

 

[Abaddon]

i would have had harry & sandman as the main villains. introduce brock right from the beginning. have peter get the symbiote during the middle of the film. final fight would be sandman vs. peter. and like the movie, have spider-man getting his ass kicked, then harry has a change of heart and helps spider-man defeat sandman but not before dieing. peter gets rid of the symbiote at the very end at the church bell tower and it falls on brock. the end. save venom entirely for SM4.

would've been much better

 

[Spider-Bat]

I liked all the villians featured in Spider-man 3, it felt like one of the comic books that had all the villians in there, one of those types, so I thought it was cool.

I think they did a good job of fitting everyone in there.

I like how they did it. It would still be good if it was just Harry but I think they did well giving him enough screen time and story.

I didn't feel like I missed out on anyone. I got enough of everything to make me happy.

I would have liked a bit more Venom, yet I like what I got.

I was happy with the progression of Harry's character into GG, but I think with all the back story from 1 and 2 this was all I needed to see in part 3, it was all set up already.

Maybe it would have been too much Harry if it was just him, but then again no, it would be fine either way.

 

[The Kid]

They should of made Black Cat in this movie instead of Venom and Gwen.Make black spidey falls for Black Cat over MJ,so basically Black Cat is black spidey's girlfriend.

Then You could have Harry and Sandman team up against black spidey and Black Cat.Then the ending of the fight could be where black spidey all of a sudden reveals razor sharp teeth and bites Sandman and Harry retreats from the fight when he sees what Peter has done.

Then black spidey tells Black Cat that he is gonna go after Harry alone,because it's personal.

Then the last fight would be at Harry's place.Where black spidey is asking Harry why he left the fight,because it's not finished until one of them is dead.

Then after the fight black spidey goes to the church to take off the symbiote because he thinks the suit has made him kill his friend Harry.And you would have a cool cliffhanger as we see black spidey take off the symbiote and it attaches to Brock to create the villain Venom for SM4.

But in SM4 regular spidey doesn't want anything to do with Black Cat,and she becomes pyschotic when regular spidey rejects her.So in a way the symbiote has created two villains.

Then you could have Harry show up when spidey is getting beaten to death by Venom and Black Cat.

Exactly. And Precisely why I'm not looking forward to anymore of these films.

X3, Batman Forever, blade 3, tmnt 3, Superman 3 only make matters worse. Wev'e already driven off this bridge. Why do we keep doing this?

 

[Spider-Bat]

One more thing, I like the new GG costume but, I still thing the mask should have been more like the Goblin face, maybe something more like the early design for Norman, wher it would have had ears and the eyes but was strapped under the chin and you still saw some face.

 

[pjspider1C]

The only thing that didn't make sense about the costume is that Harry didn't wear a helmet. If you're going to be flying around at great speeds hundreds of feet in the air and pick a fight with Spider-Man - you might want to make sure your head is protected. I mean, come on Harry - you're Dad thought of that, why didn't you?

 

[nirvamets]

They should of made Black Cat in this movie instead of Venom and Gwen.Make black spidey falls for Black Cat over MJ,so basically Black Cat is black spidey's girlfriend.

Then You could have Harry and Sandman team up against black spidey and Black Cat.Then the ending of the fight could be where black spidey all of a sudden reveals razor sharp teeth and bites Sandman and Harry retreats from the fight when he sees what Peter has done.

Then black spidey tells Black Cat that he is gonna go after Harry alone,because it's personal.

Then the last fight would be at Harry's place.Where black spidey is asking Harry why he left the fight,because it's not finished until one of them is dead.

Then after the fight black spidey goes to the church to take off the symbiote because he thinks the suit has made him kill his friend Harry.And you would have a cool cliffhanger as we see black spidey take off the symbiote and it attaches to Brock to create the villain Venom for SM4.

But in SM4 regular spidey doesn't want anything to do with Black Cat,and she becomes pyschotic when regular spidey rejects her.So in a way the symbiote has created two villains.

Then you could have Harry show up when spidey is getting beaten to death by Venom and Black Cat.

That would have been much better than the crappy movie that we got.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Exactly. And Precisely why I'm not looking forward to anymore of these films.

X3, Batman Forever, blade 3, tmnt 3, Superman 3 only make matters worse. Wev'e already driven off this bridge. Why do we keep doing this?

It's the curse of 3's.

 

[Victarion]

No. If this movie consisted of Green Goblin 2 and Venom, it would've been a great deal better. Peter would be in the suit throughout the movie, Eddie'd have had more development, and Harry a leaner, meaner, goblin suit. The theme of revenge and forgiveness would have been just as strong, too...

 

[shigsy2003]

Nope. I am perfectly happy with the way the movie turned out

 

[Anti-Venom]

Trilogy curse? No. This is what happens when you try to please everyone. Everyone demands that their favorite be in the last (or what we thought might be the last) film. You can't try to please everyone...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q_taep3ElI

Thing is, the story isn't about Venom, or the Sandman. It's about Peter. So if you take out the villains, you take out Peter's rage against the Sandman, and the black suit making his turn to the Dark Side.

I find the Harry storyline in the comics to be one of the most compelling stories in all the Spidey comics. And there is no black suit. They could have come up with a good 2-hour story about two best friends' relationship being messed up.

The ideal SM3 movie is Harry, black suit, and maybe Venom. The symbiote and Harry storylines fit so well together because it makes Peter react to Harry's attack in a very different way. Peter actually does want to kill Harry, under the influence of the suit. Venom provides an oppurtunity for Harry to save Peter at the end.

I would have prefered a movie with just Harry and the symbiote over what they ended up with. Save Venom and Sandman for future films.

 

[co2]

No. Not just Harry.

It would have been fine if they had completed the Harry storyline, the Venom storyline, and knocked out the Sandman arc.

Besides Harry's abnormal reaction to amnesia, he was the best character in the movie. Venom, if developed, could have been the best Spiderman villian yet. The problem is Venom wasn't even in the movie, a freakin Bizzaro Spiderman was cast instead.

My complete sentinments exactly