Justice League Justice League Box Office Prediction - Part 2

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1. BVS and SS have the second and third lowest RT audience score out of every DC and Marvel/Sony/Fox movie released in the last 5 years...

2. I have no idea what this means. You know good movies can flop too, right?

3. The audience score for JL is dropping at a faster rate than BVS did, it’s at 86% and it’s not been out in the US a full day...

1. Still a passing score. Majority wins. majority>100 RT critics.

2. I know good movies flop too ofcourse. I'm talking mainly about blockbuster and popular movies and big time movie franchises. 98% of the time real bad movies flop hard except for twilight or even TF (if you call it bad). Real bad movies = flop, bad audience scores, no or every few likes from people. So if RT rate a movie as "BAD" but audience score and box office score is not, then its not really bad but actually good or ok enough. All requirements above should agree not just RT scores.

and whats the big deal with RT, their reviews are generic and lame like any casual viewers would say after watching a movie. the way review things their like you and me, normal people. they are normal and not experts if you read the way they review things. so if they are just like you and me, then majority GA>RT people pretending to be experts. these critics are not even detailed and technical (not scoring things such as costume, best batman look ever, acting, music, action, set pieces, best fight scene ever by batman, best superman costume ever, etc) in their reviews but rely more on their feelings and preference about a movie. wow such bias. No wonder SS won oscar for best makeup while RT people doesn't even grade such things and basically grades movie mostly if you have "fun" or entertain by it or not. mcu basic key ingredients no wonder they gets a pass.

Asgard is about to be destroyed but no one cares, who cares, no drama no stakes, thor gets his eye cut, who cares, odin died who cares, but its "comedy fun" so who cares, its still enjoyable so it gets a pass. Asgard was detroyed their whole civilation gone, but it doesnt seem like it, GA reaction = who cares! movie is fun thats all that matters. when it comes to JL this critics nitpicks things such as plot and cgi lol what in the world, have you not seen cgi of thor, loki and odin backdrop before odin died, or cgi spderman and upside down peter parker talking to ned cgi was so bad, why ignore all this in mcu movies specially the mcu plot (who cares plot as long as its fun) and forced and cringed quips and banters in mcu half comedy superhero movies while they nitpick JL quips and cgi and messy plot (so whats the plot in gotg2?) since they dont really have anyting else negative to say.

they make big deal about batvsup fight stop while gamora and nebula tries to kill each other (yeh forgetable no one cares side story) in the most brutal way but a few second suddenly stop because "i want to have a sister or something" what? but who cares right? gotg2 was FUN so it gets a pass while bvs is so serious so you overanalyze it and the moment you can't handle it you automatically say its bad.

Now, they nitpick JL characters are not flesh out even though JL movie tried and successfully squish it in the beginning of the film while gotg who gives a #$#$ about gamora, groot and drax stories as long as it's FUN and its good to go. whats the deal about scarlet witch, black widow, hawkeye, etc who cares as long as its fun

3. as long as its not below 6 then its a passing score and majority likes it. just like batvsup and SS majorities likes them. audience scores proves it, box office score proves it, facebook likes proves it and just like JL is bound to be
 
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Are Cyborg, Aquaman or The Flash household names in the U.S. through other media? I can't imagine anyone not into comics, games, cartoons/animated films having heard of them here as they are never mentioned in the mainstream. Same goes even for the likes of Iron Man and Green Lantern before their films.
I am biased towards Flash because Wally West is my favorite hero. I think Flash is a household name the CW show with Barry has helped a lot, the old JL cartoons were great and Wally West Flash was awesome and beloved. I think the issue with him is that they kind of made Barry into Wally. I always saw Barry as the nerdy unfunny one as a kid while Wally would quip and was the fastest ever. They have Barry as the silly guy now, hate the damn armor outfit though.

Aquaman is known but not taken seriously imo.
 
Yeah I don't think Flashpoint will happen
Shame because Flash is the only character I truly love in DC. If they reboot that means they will again go through the heavy hitters like Batman and Superman before even touching Flash. I would also like Martian Manhunter but they rather do mess like Shazam, Gotham Sirens, Lobo or whatever.
 
1. Still a passing score. Majority wins. majority>100 RT critics.

2. I know good movies flop too ofcourse. I'm talking mainly about blockbuster and popular movies and big time movie franchises. 98% of the time real bad movies flop hard except for twilight or even TF (if you call it bad). Real bad movies = flop, bad audience scores, no or every few likes from people. So if RT rate a movie as "BAD" but audience score and box office score is not, then its not really bad but actually good or ok enough. All requirements above should agree not just RT scores.

and whats the big deal with RT, their reviews are generic and lame like any casual viewers would say after watching a movie. the way review things their like you and me, normal people. they are normal and not experts if you read the way they review things. so if they are just like you and me, then majority GA>RT people pretending to be experts. these critics are not even detailed and technical (not scoring things such as costume, best batman look ever, acting, music, makeup, action, set pieces, etc) in their reviews but rely more on their feelings and preference about a movie. wow such bias. No wonder SS won oscar while RT people doesn't even grade such things.

3. as long as its not below 6 then its a passing score and majority likes it. just like batvsup and SS majorities likes them. audience scores proves it, box office score proves it, facebook likes proves it and just like JL is bound to be

I don't think Hollywood cares about Facebook likes as much as you think.
 
1. Still a passing score. Majority wins. majority>100 RT critics.

2. I know good movies flop too ofcourse. I'm talking mainly about blockbuster and popular movies and big time movie franchises. 98% of the time real bad movies flop hard except for twilight or even TF (if you call it bad). Real bad movies = flop, bad audience scores, no or every few likes from people. So if RT rate a movie as "BAD" but audience score and box office score is not, then its not really bad but actually good or ok enough. All requirements above should agree not just RT scores.

and whats the big deal with RT, their reviews are generic and lame like any casual viewers would say after watching a movie. the way review things their like you and me, normal people. they are normal and not experts if you read the way they review things. so if they are just like you and me, then majority GA>RT people pretending to be experts. these critics are not even detailed and technical (not scoring things such as costume, best batman look ever, acting, music, action, set pieces, best fight scene ever by batman, best superman costume ever, etc) in their reviews but rely more on their feelings and preference about a movie. wow such bias. No wonder SS won oscar for best makeup while RT people doesn't even grade such things and basically grades movie mostly if you have "fun" or entertain by it or not. mcu basic key ingredients no wonder they gets a pass. Asgard is about to be destroyed but no one cares, who cares, no drama no stakes, thor gets his eye cut, who cares, odin died who cares, but its "comedy fun" so who cares, its still enjoyable so it gets a pass.

3. as long as its not below 6 then its a passing score and majority likes it. just like batvsup and SS majorities likes them. audience scores proves it, box office score proves it, facebook likes proves it and just like JL is bound to be

Jesus, look at this... Well you can’t make sense out of nonsense.

I’m out.
 
I just want to take a minute to laugh at the notion that reviewers don't mention things like costume designs, makeup or art direction. I'm not sure what world you are living on where that is true.
 
How can a movie that made 13M on Thursday make less than 100m for the weekend? I don't think that has ever happened.
I refuse to believe it will be that low. Somebody made a mistake.
 
How can a movie that made 13M on Thursday make less than 100m for the weekend? I don't think that has ever happened.
I refuse to believe it will be that low. Somebody made a mistake.

Yeah.
WB.
 
Low end: 95 million
High end: 105 million

According to the trades.

jesus, how did this happen ? maybe opening 2 weeks after TR might be a case of too many superhero movies in too few weeks senario ?

Maybe opening a week later might have been a little better (or TR opening a week or 2 earlier).

those numbers are depressing.
 
How can a movie that made 13M on Thursday make less than 100m for the weekend? I don't think that has ever happened.
I refuse to believe it will be that low. Somebody made a mistake.

I find it hard to believe too, these things are usually wrong though, or is this specific one more accurate?
 
jesus, how did this happen ? maybe opening 2 weeks after TR might be a case of too many superhero movies in too few weeks senario ?

Maybe opening a week later might have been a little better (or TR opening a week or 2 earlier).

those numbers are depressing.

I think this goes really back to the impression left by BvS mostly.
 
If it just cracks 100 million OW and has a second week drop anywhere similar to SS or BvS it's pretty much DOA.

BvS saving grace domestically at least was its pretty huge OW.
 
No way a Thor movie (even with Hulk) beats a Justice League movie the first week. The fans will support it at least on opening weekend.
They saw the movie as it was shot by Snyder and they shot stuff that must have improved it to test audiences. You don't spend millions for reshoots to make a movie worse.

Nobody (but Fox) reshoots a movie to make it less appealing.
 
No way a Thor movie (even with Hulk) beats a Justice League movie the first week. The fans will support it at least on opening weekend.

It sure is looking like that right now.
It would be a defeat but oh well, I choose to see what's to gain from this for the fans.

I'm optimistic WB can only improve from now on.
They have to.
 
jesus, how did this happen ? maybe opening 2 weeks after TR might be a case of too many superhero movies in too few weeks senario ?

Maybe opening a week later might have been a little better (or TR opening a week or 2 earlier).

those numbers are depressing.

Opening two big CBM's 2 weeks a apart was a bad idea. JL is vastly underperforming and Thor 3 is expected to have a 65% weekend drop.

But yeah, WB have nobody else but themselves to blame for these horrible numbers! JL having a chance at sub 100m opening weekend? That's insane!! Embarrassing too! Imagine that, JL being outgrossed by Suicide Squad and Guardians of the Galaxy! If someone had made a claim like that (SS & GotG outgrossing JL) a few years ago, you'd be laughed out the forum and called crazy!
 
No way a Thor movie (even with Hulk) beats a Justice League movie the first week. The fans will support it at least on opening weekend.
They saw the movie as it was shot by Snyder and they shot stuff that must have improved it to test audiences. You don't spend millions for reshoots to make a movie worse.

In what multiverse? :huh:
 
No way a Thor movie (even with Hulk) beats a Justice League movie the first week. The fans will support it at least on opening weekend.
They saw the movie as it was shot by Snyder and they shot stuff that must have improved it to test audiences. You don't spend millions for reshoots to make a movie worse.

Nobody (but Fox) reshoots a movie to make it less appealing.

Wanna bet?
 
Opening two big CBM's 2 weeks a apart was a bad idea. JL is vastly underperforming and Thor 3 is expected to have a 65% weekend drop.

But yeah, WB have nobody else but themselves to blame for these horrible numbers! JL having a chance at sub 100m opening weekend? That's insane!! Embarrassing too! Imagine that, JL being outgrossed by Suicide Squad and Guardians of the Galaxy! If someone had made a claim like that (SS & GotG outgrossing JL) a few years ago you'd be laughed out the forum and called crazy!

To be honest, the rules about "more popular characters should make more money" haven't applied for a long time now. The first GoTG made more money than both ASM1 and ASM2. Deadpool made more than MoS. Doctor Strange made more than X-Men. It's really not surprising that Thor would outgross Justice League. Is it kind of sad? Sure, but it's not like this is something new when it's been happening for years already.
 
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1. Still a passing score. Majority wins. majority>100 RT critics.

2. I know good movies flop too ofcourse. I'm talking mainly about blockbuster and popular movies and big time movie franchises. 98% of the time real bad movies flop hard except for twilight or even TF (if you call it bad). Real bad movies = flop, bad audience scores, no or every few likes from people. So if RT rate a movie as "BAD" but audience score and box office score is not, then its not really bad but actually good or ok enough. All requirements above should agree not just RT scores.

and whats the big deal with RT, their reviews are generic and lame like any casual viewers would say after watching a movie. the way review things their like you and me, normal people. they are normal and not experts if you read the way they review things. so if they are just like you and me, then majority GA>RT people pretending to be experts. these critics are not even detailed and technical (not scoring things such as costume, best batman look ever, acting, music, action, set pieces, best fight scene ever by batman, best superman costume ever, etc) in their reviews but rely more on their feelings and preference about a movie. wow such bias. No wonder SS won oscar for best makeup while RT people doesn't even grade such things and basically grades movie mostly if you have "fun" or entertain by it or not. mcu basic key ingredients no wonder they gets a pass.

Asgard is about to be destroyed but no one cares, who cares, no drama no stakes, thor gets his eye cut, who cares, odin died who cares, but its "comedy fun" so who cares, its still enjoyable so it gets a pass. Asgard was detroyed their whole civilation gone, but it doesnt seem like it, GA reaction = who cares! movie is fun thats all that matters. when it comes to JL this critics nitpicks things such as plot and cgi lol what in the world, have you not seen cgi of thor, loki and odin backdrop before odin died, or cgi spderman and upside down peter parker talking to ned cgi was so bad, why ignore all this in mcu movies specially the mcu plot (who cares plot as long as its fun) and forced and cringed quips and banters in mcu half comedy superhero movies while they nitpick JL quips and cgi and messy plot (so whats the plot in gotg2?) since they dont really have anyting else negative to say.

they make big deal about batvsup fight stop while gamora and nebula tries to kill each other (yeh forgetable no one cares side story) in the most brutal way but a few second suddenly stop because "i want to have a sister or something" what? but who cares right? gotg2 was FUN so it gets a pass while bvs is so serious so you overanalyze it and the moment you can't handle it you automatically say its bad.

Now, they nitpick JL characters are not flesh out even though JL movie tried and successfully squish it in the beginning of the film while gotg who gives a #$#$ about gamora, groot and drax stories as long as it's FUN and its good to go. whats the deal about scarlet witch, black widow, hawkeye, etc who cares as long as its fun

3. as long as its not below 6 then its a passing score and majority likes it. just like batvsup and SS majorities likes them. audience scores proves it, box office score proves it, facebook likes proves it and just like JL is bound to be

Lmao
 
Cinemascore is B+, same as SS, which means it will probably perform like SS this weekend.
 
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