Justice League Justice League Box Office Prediction - Part 7

[markjoedelonge]

You mean Justice League? I think the worst they're going to do is just retcons things and move on to focus on individual franchise's. Getting character drivin visions is what WB needs to hone in on. Once they do that, maybe that will lead to another JL down the road. That's not the priority anymore. Pump out well thought out films, get the audience to invest again, don't turn into cardboard Marvel 2.0 and find your niche. They aren't rebooting. Major retcons though I assume.

Yup. Just pump out successful solo films and have the GA clamouring to see the heroes together.

 

[Micromind]

JL's overseas performance (barring China, Brazil) is worrisome. JL made same amount of money in overseas market as Wonder Woman did, if we compare the money JL earned without China to the money Wonder Woman earned without China.

Here's the comparison -

Justice League

Foreign market : $428 mil.
China :$106 mil.

Without China ( $428 mil. - $106 mil.) = $ 322 mil.

Wonder Woman


Foreign market : $409 mil.
China : $90 mil.

Without China ($409 mil. - $90 mil.)= $ 319 mil.

So, numbers are approximately comparable (as the difference is only $ 3 mil), which is Not a good thing.

Why ? That's because WW was a first solo female superhero movie (of current DC-verse), JL was a team up movie featuring heroes that have great name recognition all over the world, so JL performing on the level of WW is not a good thing.

 

[GreenKToo]

You mean Justice League? I think the worst they're going to do is just retcons things and move on to focus on individual franchise's. Getting character drivin visions is what WB needs to hone in on. Once they do that, maybe that will lead to another JL down the road. That's not the priority anymore. Pump out well thought out films, get the audience to invest again, don't turn into cardboard Marvel 2.0 and find your niche. They aren't rebooting. Major retcons though I assume.

Yes. They wanted their AV, but they forgot it has to be a good film first to make that magical billion dollar number.
He11, It didn't even have to make a billion, it could have pleased the critics and fans and still fell below a billion and that would have been fine.

I honestly feel they knew long ago it wasn't gonna be a hit, but they decided to take their losses and release it anyway instead of taking 6 months longer to iron things out.
we all should be highly pi$$ed it WB for going about it like they did. It's not like we have ever got a JL film before, and it may be a very long time before we ever get another.
Meanwhile, marvel is looking at their 3rd AV film that will cross a billion.

Right now, i'd take solo films all day long. I don't care about the team ups anymore.
My wish would be for a solo Superman film. Hire a really good director for Superman, like a Jackson, Abram, or Bird.
Make Superman bright and hopeful, and give us the classic Brainiac as the villain.
Set it in the 1950's, back when society was more innocent, back before everyone had cell phones and the like.

 

[MbJ]

Why ? That's because WW was a first solo female superhero movie, JL was a team up movie featuring heroes that have great name recognition all over the world, so JL performing on the level of WW is not a good thing.

Well, Batman and Superman have name recognition all over the world, and Wonder Woman now does to an extent as well. But not the others. Someone jokingly said in America Justice League is a team of DC's most popular characters, but in the rest of the world it's Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and their pals.

Still, you're correct that this is not a good thing. I am guessing we are seeing what happened with the Transformers franchise. They were huge overseas until audiences stopped being tricked by them, and the negative reputation of the franchise eventually caught up with it, which is why The Last Night severely underperformed.

I think we are seeing a similar thing happening with the DCEU. There was a time where getting these characters onscreen (as well as big international stars like Will Smith) was enough to sell these movies alone, but the audiences are becoming less forgiving.

 

[Mandon Knight]

Box Office to date....

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=dcfilm1117.htm

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Hah! Take that Batman Begins! Lolz

 

[Kanon]

Hah! Take that Batman Begins! Lolz

Adjusted for inflation would be "Take that Batman and Robin!"

 

[FunkMiller]

Box Office to date....

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=dcfilm1117.htm

To be fair, you could have just posted this.

 

[Patchwork Man]

There they are. Itchy & Scratchy.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It actually came within like $10 mil of beating Man of Steel

 

[Iceman]

Box Office to date....

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=dcfilm1117.htm

This is where it should have been after its 2nd weekend.

 

[JerseyJoker]

Fun game, go to the original Prediction thread all the way up to Pt. 3

and enjoy the hilarity of people expecting JL not to be a box office bomb.

 

[Consona]

Fun game, go to the original Prediction thread all the way up to Pt. 3

and enjoy the hilarity of people expecting JL not to be a box office bomb.

Like people have some time travel machine or something...

Spoiler

 

[JerseyJoker]

Huh?

 

[MbJ]

Fun game, go to the original Prediction thread all the way up to Pt. 3

and enjoy the hilarity of people expecting JL not to be a box office bomb.

Remember when Forbes predicted it in 2016 and everyone said they were liars and DCEU haters and everyone totally loved BVS.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

We did. We are just paid off by Disney and Russia to lie our asses off.

 

[MbJ]

I never got my check. Jerks.

 

[Limonade]

Like people have some time travel machine or something...

Spoiler

Just by going on jokesonm3 post alone in the 4th page... he was pretty spot on.

It made less than BvS.

 

[GreenKToo]

We need that superman sequel, and a director who can
A) handle big films and
B) who isn't afraid to embrace superman's boy scout nature.
I'll also add that cavill deserves another shot.

If they can do that, I don't think the b.o. Will be a problem.

 

[Micromind]

Remember when Forbes predicted it in 2016 and everyone said they were liars and DCEU haters and everyone totally loved BVS.

This prediction wouldn't be applicable had JL actually managed to get "Fresh Tomatometer" rating and good word of mouth, also, it should be noted that JL opened between the two crowd-pulling franchises (Thor 3 and SW TLJ), had it got more time and a good RT score and good wom, things might have been different. That shows the amount of uncertainty associated with this movie, the variables were far greater, add to that lackluster marketing campaign where movie's directors were not even out there promoting the movie.

In the end a lot more things went wrong for this movie than TMNT 2 as that article points out, this movie faced greater challenges.

There are far too many reasons for what happened in this case and pinning blame on one thing is not accurate.

 

[JerseyJoker]

lol.

This movie wouldn't of been a bomb if only Things 1 thru 200 have happened.

Yeah, no ****. You can say that for any movie that bombs.

 

[Micromind]

Just sayin that the theory put froward by Mendelson (reasons why Tomb raider 2 / TMNT 2 under-performed and predictions based on that as to how so will JL also underperform ) doesn't work in all circumstances.

 

[JerseyJoker]

But it does.

The general audience did not go see JL because Snyders daughter killed herself. Or they added a second director. Or because of reshoots and a CGI'd mustache. The audience didn't go see JL because of a rating on a website.

Its really simple. Batman v Superman was the second part of a trilogy. First part was Man of Steel, third was Justice League.

BvS put a really bad taste in a large portion of peoples mouths regarding Batman, Superman, and a Zack Snyder film. I would say the general public didnt even know that Joss Whedon made half that film.

So going off of previous notion of that article, the audience came in droves to BvS saw what they were getting after it was over and made a decision, that next tiem around, it wouldn't be important to see JL right away. Also it doesnt help that DC/WB has made an effort to tell you the movie you see in theaters isn't the movie most the time, cause you'll get the 'real' movie on homevideo with a directors cut or extended cut.

Justice League was the direct result of cause and effect from Snyders previous two outings. Plus the effect of bad marketing and just terrible word of mouth of people seeing it opening weekend and telling others not to waste their time.

 

[Micromind]

Audience don't make a decision just based on how the earlier movie performed (there are other factors also.), for example Quantum of Solace didn't do well but the next Bond movie Skyfall did very well.

Also, if MoS was a bad movie why did people show up to see BvS ? Going by the logic Mendelson gives, BvS should have earned only $ 400 mil, a drop of 40 % from the first movies' collections.

 

[Erzengel]

I wouldn't say that BvS wasn't a non factor.