The Last Jedi Kelly Marie Tran as Rose

[carrrnuttt]

Point 1 - I think Rey illustrates that point far better than anyone and rather than waste time on the casino subplot, such time could've been spent fleshing out Snoke and establishing that like Rey, he is really no one special: just someone who had aptitude in the force and used the power vacuum to seize control for himself. That demonstrates it on both sides of the aisle.

Point 2 - But that theme ultimately went no where. Its not plot exposition if it is just a throw away monologue that never comes up again. Plot exposition, by nature, needs to move the plot forward. Establishing that there are rich people who profit off of wars did not do that as it held no relevance in the grand scheme of things.

Point 3 - Was that scene really so crucial that it required a thirty minute detour? Hell, I'd argue that scene works as a stand alone scene, without the subplot. Just have some kid getting pushed around by a First Order Stormtrooper or something and you have the same exact result when he looks up at the stars hopefully.

Rey can't be an "everyman." She's well past that in name recognition alone.

The director obviously felt that a random, no-name tech whose even-more-no-name sister sacrificed herself for the idea of the Rebellion and fighting against oppression is a better connective tissue. There might be better ways of doing this, yeah. But this is what happened in the movie and I accept it for what it is.

 

[Greens]

Rey can't be an "everyman." She's well past that in name recognition alone.

The director obviously felt that a random, no-name tech whose even-more-no-name sister sacrificed herself for the idea of the Rebellion and fighting against oppression is a better connective tissue. There might be better ways of doing this, yeah. But this is what happened in the movie and I accept it for what it is.

It's a good idea, but it was executed terribly. Might as well leave it out then.

 

[danoyse]

It appears a bunch of racist trolls edited Rose's page on Wookiepedia.

RACIST ATTACKS AGAINST KELLY MARIE TRAN POSTED TO ROSE TICO’S ‘WOOKIEEPEDIA’ PAGE

"On Tuesday, Tico's page on "Wookieepedia," a fan-run online encyclopedia with entries about everything Star Wars, was edited to include racist comments. Her name was changed to "Ching Chong Wing Tong," and her homeworld (Hays Minor) to "Ching Chong China." A fake quote was also attributed to Rose: "Heil Hitler and I don't know why I was casted [sic] in a good movie like Star Wars."

Stay classy there, TLJ trolls.

 

[godisawesome]

Idiots need to get a life. And maybe a punch in the face and a soul crushing humiliation.

 

[TheVileOne]

Rose was no Lando. That's for sure. Nor was DJ for that matter.

 

[#root]

Jesus ****. What kind of assholish ****ery is that?

 

[Sithborg]

sigh

Not surprising. I remember the reaction to Finn.

 

[Big Lob]

sigh

Not surprising. I remember the reaction to Finn.

I remember the reaction to Finn, Rey, the whole lot of them, actually. There is still ugly stuff out there.

So, the premise is: Original trilogy is good, new trilogy is bad.

I don't even get it, the extreme trolls, well, if differences offend you, the original trilogy is the only pure and good thing, yadda yadda, what about Billy Dee Williams? Does his inclusion in OT films offend your sensibilities? And the kind of message Star Wars has runs counter to these kind of attitudes anyway, so I wonder what these people get out of these movies. Eh, I don't know.

Here's my deal on Rose: I like the character. Her b-plot with Finn isn't great, but I do like some moments, like her freeing the animals.

I also like Kelly and her passion for her profession and her genuine excitement to be apart of this. She's a positive force to add to the Star Wars family.

 

[Abudefduf]

This woman.

 

[Enriquespy]

Dawwwwwwww

 

[rashad]

Nothing against the actress but I wasn't a fan of her character in TLJ at all. Pretty dull imo.

 

[Frodo]

The actress was fine and I thought the character was okay. I was just bored by her storyline. Then again the whole Finn/Rose/ DJ , Canto Bight storyline was my least favorite in the film anyway.

 

[writer0327]

Rose was great.
Canto Bight was okay.
The problem is the scene was set up to be a lot sexier than it what was actually executed. Canto Bight was a statement about the galaxy-at-large and how war affects everyone from the richest scumbags to the lowly children living in serfdom. But most people would have rather just watched a thrilling secret mission to find a "master codebreaker" on a casino planet...I mean, man that sounds sexy as hell, but the scene never delivered on the expectation.

 

[writer0327]

This woman.

 

[Frodo]

Rose was great.
Canto Bight was okay.
The problem is the scene was set up to be a lot sexier than it what was actually executed. Canto Bight was a statement about the galaxy-at-large and how war affects everyone from the richest scumbags to the lowly children living in serfdom. But most people would have rather just watched a thrilling secret mission to find a "master codebreaker" on a casino planet...I mean, man that sounds sexy as hell, but the scene never delivered on the expectation.

Yeah. I like the message about war profiteers, but I actually think Finn was the wrong character to go to Canto Bight and that it actually would have had a greater impact if Poe had gone with Rose instead.

He truly is dedicated to the resistance and clearly has strong beliefs about it , and I think DJ's message about both sides of the fight would impact him much more than Finn who's really not that strong in the resistance .

Of course Finn has a role given he knows the first order , but overall, I think it would have been more interesting for Poe to have his beliefs challenged by DJ along with Rose, than with Finn who was a former stromtrooper who deserted and was basically focused on Rey anyway.

Poe of course had to learn a lesson about leadership so I can see why he couldn't also learn about the shades of grey in the conflict.

 

[writer0327]

Yeah. I like the message about war profiteers, but I actually think Finn was the wrong character to go to Canto Bight and that it actually would have had a greater impact if Poe had gone with Rose instead.

He truly is dedicated to the resistance and clearly has strong beliefs about it , and I think DJ's message about both sides of the fight would impact him much more than Finn who's really not that strong in the resistance .

Of course Finn has a role given he knows the first order , but overall, I think it would have been more interesting for Poe to have his beliefs challenged by DJ along with Rose, than with Finn who was a former stromtrooper who deserted and was basically focused on Rey anyway.

Poe of course had to learn a lesson about leadership so I can see why he couldn't also learn about the shades of grey in the conflict.

I can agree with that. One of the problems I had with TFA was how Finn was kinda one-note and underdeveloped, as you pointed out, his entire purpose was to "save Rey" in that film.

I think the decision Rian made to use Finn here instead of Poe was exactly for this reason: he never truly bought in to the Resistance, so using him here to witness first hand the larger problems of the war helped solidify his commitment to the cause. For the first time, his character has something to do other than pine over Rey. He sees those poor kids much like himself, taken from their families and conscripted into servitude to the war or those who are profiting off the war.

If Finn was going to continue to be an important part of this trilogy, he needed to have some purpose within the story, some agency of his own, other than being a stock character.

 

[Sithborg]

And the *******s forced her to shut down her social media.

 

[Deck Rickard]

People are ****ing awful. I feel really bad for her.

 

[BatLobster]

Terrible. People should be ashamed of themselves, but they're probably proud.

 

[Sithborg]

How the "fans" have treated certain people in this franchise is disgusting.

 

[Mysteryman]

So sorry to hear that has happened to her.
Such ugly disgusting people.
I hope some bad Karma comes their way and they pay for it somehow.

 

[MadVillainy]

How the "fans" have treated certain people in this franchise is disgusting.

I mean the worst thing is its all of these franchises

 

[Roose Bolton]

Pretty standard for this franchise. Just look at what happened with Jake Lloyd.

 

[Enriquespy]

Dammit people, why are you awful?.




I loved her Instas, she was so sweet!!

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

What happened?!