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Krypton Krypton - General Discussion Thread

I feel like the Lobo show was probably planned before they even wrote the episodes, so he was just awkwardly shoehorned in there to sell that show rather than serving any worthwhile purpose in this show.
Yea I'm getting that feeling too. I'll wait to see how the season play's out, but he just seems to be more a fan service easter egg at this point.

I actually hope he's used as a weapon against Doomsday in the finale, and they have an epic face off.
 
Not that they would kill off Lobo or Brainiac… but the show seems to be operating under “alternative timeline” rules. Thus, Adam is genuinely concerned for Seg’s safety - even though, in the original timeline, Seg must live to father Jor; and Jor, in turn, must father Kal. Likewise, Zod is worried about Lyta - even though, in the original timeline, her immediate survival was/is assured (she has to live long enough to give birth to Zod). (Unless… Zod is lying about his true parentage. :ninja:) IOW, the characters with knowledge of time travel don’t assume, in-universe, that the new/current timeline must necessarily follow the original. Indeed, Zod apparently believes he can change history; and Adam is actively working to restore history. So “predestination” isn’t a thing.

I've been having this thought for some time now and I don't think lyta is Zod's mother. that maybe who he thought she was, but it's possible the one he met since time travailing isn't her and his mom may have just used the name. but with seg it's been really bugging me, I don't think seg is Jor el super man 's grand father. But his great grand father. in the book's there was "Jor el the first" in the comic's and it was "Jor el the second" that fathered kal El /Superman.

Also Jor El the second had a Twin who was a Weapon designer on krypton and they were fallowed by kara Zor El /super girls, father as their youngest sibling.

Right now there's that baby cor Vex which everything's up in the air. I know the writer's of this series wanted to do their own thing and they create seg.

but what if both Adam strange & Zod over shot what they thought superman's grand father time line went to his great grand fathers instead?

this may also have some to with val being Exiled and his family being made rank less but for real Seg doesn't fit right. it's possible he's of the blood line but I don't him as the grand but the great grand father. biut only time will tell in this series.

The only Thing I see from seg is that he's pig headed stubborn. and it's get's him beat down alot by way better fighters. and the only science that's coming out of him so far seem's to be from Brainiac via the weird merger. the way thing's are going it's possible seg may become brainic and there's the fact there clones of most of the current kryptonian as we saw from the season prior.
the some true scientist in the family is val.

if lyta dies though Ion the Zod and he's still around it's just confirm some of my suspicions .
 
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Fairly certain Nyssa's story has already established the method of Lyta's return.
 
Fairly certain Nyssa's story has already established the method of Lyta's return.
so it's ether I missed some thing after Nyssa freed Adam & kem or it's about the clone thing I mentioned in the second to latter paragraph of my post.
the thing is with that .

As Nyssa said before her dad head was blown apart in front of her "how can she be sure she's truly like the original? (& as she was told it's possible her father would have still told her another lie.) And most clone's aren't that any more.

Ether as I said the one zod met in this time line wasn't his mom regardless. He really shouldn't have bothered to time travel ether. But bad guys & their wanting to rule the universe. any way thanks for the answer.
 
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I think that Kem will be part of Superman's bloodline. The quality that makes Superman inspirational is that, powers aside, he's an Everyman who is just trying to help and do the right thing. Kem is the Everyman on this show, the ordinary person who finds himself in a position to help. He isn't motivated (much) by ambition or remorse. In his heart, he's a protector.

I wonder if Kem ever needed to pass for Ranked back in the day. Or maybe, as a defector from the Sagitari, his life will always be in danger. I wouldn't be surprised if his fake ID says "Lor-Van".
 
This version of Doomsday's origin is lame af.

Also, is it me or is Brainiac showing more emotion/personality this season? He seems more like "generic British bad guy with a voice changer" this season to me.
 
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I really enjoyed this episode. I found it engaging more so than previous episodes.

Doomsday's origin was condensed for TV, but it had enough classic elements for me. Same with Brainiac, especially in this episode. I prefer seeing him do some dastardly stuff rather than making Seg argue with himself.

Also liked the Jor-El stuff and more of the Fortress. Nyssa is one of the more interesting characters.

Are they going to resurrect Lyta too? They have the technology.
 
What was the Jor-El stuff?

Nyssa wanted Cor-Vex to take the El name and it was customary an El take a family name so he was renamed Jor-El after a great/grandfather. The baby was then kidnapped by Brainiac, since Brainiac decided the best of Krypton was the House of El.
 
Thoughts on "Zods and Monsters" (2x07):

Doomsday is "Captain Argo".

Kryptonians have at least one meta gene, and the allele capable of producing Doomsday was extremely rare 1000 cycles (years?) ago. Is this the same gene that gives Superman his abilities? Maybe most Kryptonians don't have the potential for superpowers.

Seg-El has the Super gene, but it seems to be dormant in him; he didn't develop powers under Colu's apparently-yellow sun. He passed the gene on to both lines of his descendants (Dru-Zod and the El kids). The vaguely-stated reason for Brainiac taking an interest in Seg-El and kidnapping Jor-El could be to study this rare genetic potential for superpowers.
 
Nyssa wanted Cor-Vex to take the El name and it was customary an El take a family name so he was renamed Jor-El after a great/grandfather. The baby was then kidnapped by Brainiac, since Brainiac decided the best of Krypton was the House of El.

thank you! I was hoping that baby would turn out to be Jor-El and Nyssa his mother/Superman’s grandmother
 
I wonder if we will see a teenage Jor El in future potential seasons of Krypton. It would be fun to see how Jor El and Zod went from being close friends into being enemies..
 
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I'm enjoying this show so much. Never thought I'd get emotionally invested in a Doomsday back story.

I wonder if Zodd will try and get some of Earths yellows sun to power himself up, Superman style.

Does this version of Zodd even know about the power he can get from Earths sun?
 
I'm enjoying this show so much. Never thought I'd get emotionally invested in a Doomsday back story.

I wonder if Zodd will try and get some of Earths yellows sun to power himself up, Superman style.

Does this version of Zodd even know about the power he can get from Earths sun?
I would assume that he knows considering that he himself stated that he fought Superman in the future.
 
Not sure how he can get powers from the yellow sun without other Kryptonians getting them too
 
Not sure how he can get powers from the yellow sun without other Kryptonians getting them too
Secret mission. I'm sure at this point in time only the science division and explorers are even aware of Earth, let alone it's power giving sun. It would probably be considered classified.

That being said, doesn't Kryptons sun cancel out Supermans powers? That would explain no Super Zodd.
 
Cor-Vex might not be the Jor-El we're looking for.

The Genesis Chamber Oracle said that Cor-Vex would live for 173 cycles — presumably his natural lifespan barring accidents such as planets exploding — and the show is reportedly set some 200 years before Superman's time. If a Kryptonian cycle is roughly one Earth year, then Cor-Vex can't be the same Jor-El who died in middle age shortly after fathering Kal-El — not without some sort of time travel or suspended animation. The show has both of those technologies, but I think that wouldn't be a satisfying solution.

Krypton might have a short year if its sun Rao is a red dwarf, but I figure that Kryptonians — even without superpowers — would be healthier and longer-lived than humans. They've had the benefit of hundreds of generations of high-tech gene-cleaning, so a lifespan of 173 Earth years seems reasonable.

The Oracle also declared that Cor-Vex would be best suited to the Lawmakers' Guild, whereas the father of Kal-El was a scientist who failed spectacularly when he had to convince politicians about Krypton's fate.
 
Well, it's always been stated that Seg-El is Superman's grandfather. There could be different lifespans there.

A lot of things have been changed around with the timeline here (time travel etc.) so who knows where it is all headed.
 
Well, it's always been stated that Seg-El is Superman's grandfather. There could be different lifespans there.

"Seg" could be a traditional name in the El family; they're okay with repeating names every few generations. Superman's grandfather Seg could show up a century or so later.

General Zod and his mother are a problem, but we only have Dru-Zod's word for it that that's the relationship. He could have lied about that to win Lyta's allegiance -- as a prominent Sagitari, she's a valuable ally, and he's ruthless -- and faked whatever genetics test they ran on him.

I think it would be funny to hear Adam try to explain to Seg, Val, and Kem how he misidentified Superman's grandfather by a century.
 
Krypton might have a short year if its sun Rao is a red dwarf...

Not that Krypton adheres to hard science :crso:, but…

For planets within the habitable zone of a red dwarf star, the “years” aren’t just short - they’re very short. So if the Kryptonian year is only 6 days long (which is a rough average for these planets), then “1000 cycles ago” is a mere 16½ Earth years.

Therefore, there appear to be two options: 1) science be damned, a Kryptonian orbit (year) is about the same as an Earth orbit (year); or 2) the Krytonian “cycle” is based on something other than one planetary orbit. In any case, I think we (the audience) legitimately assume that a “cycle” approximates an Earth year. And it would seem like a cheat if a major plot point hinged on the "dramatic reveal" that a Kryptonian "cycle" was significantly longer or shorter.
 
Thoughts on "Zods and Monsters" (2x07):

Doomsday is "Captain Argo".

Kryptonians have at least one meta gene, and the allele capable of producing Doomsday was extremely rare 1000 cycles (years?) ago. Is this the same gene that gives Superman his abilities? Maybe most Kryptonians don't have the potential for superpowers.

Seg-El has the Super gene, but it seems to be dormant in him; he didn't develop powers under Colu's apparently-yellow sun. He passed the gene on to both lines of his descendants (Dru-Zod and the El kids). The vaguely-stated reason for Brainiac taking an interest in Seg-El and kidnapping Jor-El could be to study this rare genetic potential for superpowers.
from what was said of the DC Data base wikia while superman 's power are part of the meta gene it's also been said that it was supposed to be randomized like the human gennom where they each have their own unique powers but be cause of how krytonian's did something to them selves via recreating a planet via terra forming it's been put out to only do the abilities that superman exhibits .


Well, it's always been stated that Seg-El is Superman's grandfather. There could be different lifespans there.

A lot of things have been changed around with the timeline here (time travel etc.) so who knows where it is all headed.

"Seg" could be a traditional name in the El family; they're okay with repeating names every few generations. Superman's grandfather Seg could show up a century or so later.

General Zod and his mother are a problem, but we only have Dru-Zod's word for it that that's the relationship. He could have lied about that to win Lyta's allegiance -- as a prominent Sagitari, she's a valuable ally, and he's ruthless -- and faked whatever genetics test they ran on him.

I think it would be funny to hear Adam try to explain to Seg, Val, and Kem how he misidentified Superman's grandfather by a century.
you two are on the same page as me

here I'm gonna show you both something jor -el the father os super man was born with a twin and that twin was bore super girls father and he fathered the current leader of kal- dor.
any look this is who I was talking where seg's son's cor vex who was just named jor el I think it's jor el the first not the antcestor.


but from what I see. yes Gauthreia adam & zod are two generarions a head I think the only reason they both are there is because of brainac how ever they are wrong about seg being supman grand father when infact he's the great grand father.

Jor-El I
^^from this link ^^ Jor-El I (Earth-One)
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Like many in his family, Jor-El was a respected scientist and a patriarch of the noble House of El. To the amazement of his colleagues, he succesfully created an experimental rocket-ship capable of traveling through hyperspace.

Jor-El personally embarked upon a one-man journey to the Sol System wherein he discovered a small habitable world known as Earth. Returning to Krypton he kept extensive notes concerning Earth and passed them down to his first son, Jor-El II. Knowledge of this planet inspired the son to one day send his own child Kal-El to Earth when catastrophe struck the planet Krypton, ending all life on the tortured world.


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Jor-El II

^^from this link ^^>> Jor-El II (Earth-One)
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Jor-El II and his identical twin brother Nim-El were born in Kandor, Krypton to [URL='https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Jor-El_I']Jor-El I[/URL] ,and his wife Nimda.

Zor-El is their younger brother.


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As to zod I think he was born from the clone and not the Lyta who's throat was cut. as to his father it's clear to that seg's not his dad and it was a lie. he never knew his that to begin so he was ether assuming or lying.
 
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Not that Krypton adheres to hard science :crso:, but…

Heh... According to a story in the recent Green Lanterns comic series, Earth had a complex biosphere ten billion years ago.
 
Zod's blood was able to unlock Doomsday's lock that required El and Zod blood, so I think it is safe to say that he isn't lying.
 

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